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Default Username lemmy.dbzer0.com defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-12 |
It also recently voted a more specific stricter anti-ai policy (90 eligible voters; 39 support, 5 accept, 1 oppose (unanimity is needed to pass (probably should change to a large qualified majority as the project continues to grow (maybe something like 90% or 95%? (I'd suggest it myself but while I plan on contributing I haven't started using Guix yet (I got a fully free computer, currently in ...
You have an appropriate amount of paranthesis in your comment about Guix. |
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sinza piefed.social ![]() sinza@piefed.social Joined: 2026-09-15 |
What's wrong with Void though? I think they clearly stated that it's against their policy.
The policy doesn't seem to be a full ban on AI within the distribution's infrastructure, permitting some usage such as for translation and for research. For anything else, this would be a mild annoyance to me. For a Linux distribution, not fully banning AI is a dealbreaker for me due to the direction that the Linux kernel is going. Thus the resistance that a Linux distribution does against AI must be stronger for me to consider it, especially when there are other Unix-like OSes that have less AI-generated code due to not using the Linux kernel. This line of thinking also helps me narrow down Linux distributions to recommend. |
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felixwhynot lemmy.world ![]() felixwhynot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Not any other of the BSDs?
They recently changed their policy to forbid AI: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@netbsd/112446618914747900 |
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muhyb programming.dev muhyb@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-05 |
The policy doesn't seem to be a full ban on AI within the distribution's infrastructure, permitting some usage such as for translation and for research. For anything else, this would be a mild annoyance to me. For a Linux distribution, not fully banning AI is a dealbreaker for me due to the direction that the Linux kernel is going. Thus the resistance that a Linux distribution does against AI m...
I see. Translation part is fine in my opinion but I too am not so sure about the research part and it can lead to something wrong even though the code is not written by it in the first hand. |
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maegul (he/they) lemmy.ml ![]() maegul@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-01-19 |
They recently changed their policy to forbid AI: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@netbsd/112446618914747900
Long live NetBSD then! |
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thunderousApplaus sh.itjust.works thunderousApplaus@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-07-01 |
Please do not construe this post as impugning on the skill or morality of BSD developers. BSD gets way less funding and resources than Linux so their devs can’t cover everything. I'll impugn their morality: their lack of funding is a direct result of them insisting on getting cucked with permissive licensing instead of copyleft. They explicitly condone abuse, so of fucking course abusers take a...
I recommend you read this article. Also look at the history of the Linux kernel and you'll see that GPL does not protect against corporate interests from taking over. |
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thunderousApplaus sh.itjust.works thunderousApplaus@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-07-01 |
They recently changed their policy to forbid AI: https://mastodon.sdf.org/@netbsd/112446618914747900
They allow LLM contributions tho...
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moldy_rice piefed.keyboardvagabond.com ![]() moldy_rice@piefed.keyboardvagabond.com Joined: 2026-08-07 |
AerynOS (1) Arch Linux has banned LLMs in Issue Trackers (1, 2, 3) Asahi Linux (1) Chimera Linux (1) elementary OS (1) Gentoo Linux (1) Hyperbola GNU/Linux-libre (1) Nura (1) secureblue (1) gnome OS Majority of GNOME developers reject ai, even if there is no ai policy yet Source
Holy fuck, secureblue sounds amazing. Anyone try it here? |
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mrnngglry sh.itjust.works mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-02-17 |
Yea, that list is painting a fairly bleak picture. Linux kernel and all BSD are basically “lost”, which means FOSS OSs are basically lost. Arch, gentoo and Elementary (and Asahi, interestingly) seem like notable exceptions against the grain, but they are just distros. Not sure where anti-computing is supposed to be from here? Honestly, organising around a hard fork of a kernel and committing as...
I hate AI, the way it is generally being used, and the harm it is causing to society, our environment, our cognitive abilities. All of that said, it is difficult to be a purist. You just do your best and when it comes to operating systems, that is especially true. What I value most in an operating system is privacy, security, and ease of use (mostly just works). So for me, I need to find that in a distro with a AI use policy I can live with. That’s a sliding scale, not all or nothing. Factoring in that alternative OSes might be worse on the AI front or less useful out of the box, and I’m just staying out for now. If an alternative can compete on those fronts, I’ll consider switching. |
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MissingGhost lemmy.ml MissingGhost@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-05-02 |
With the current state of things, if a software distribution includes Linux, it includes AI assisted code. Maybe something like NetBSD? I'm not even sure if anything is AI free anymore. |
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sinza piefed.social ![]() sinza@piefed.social Joined: 2026-09-15 |
I see. Translation part is fine in my opinion but I too am not so sure about the research part and it can lead to something wrong even though the code is not written by it in the first hand.
Makes sense to me. As I said, I'd find this a mild annoyance (at worst even!) if this weren't a Linux distribution. Could (theoretically anyways) be fine enough for OP though. |
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red_tomato lemmy.world red_tomato@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-30 |
It’s a losing battle. Projects that seem to take a clear anti-AI stance today can change their stance in the future. Linus went from being kinda AI-cautious to AI-pilled in the span of a year. I’ve seen the same with today AI-pilled coworkers who just one year ago were AI-skeptic. An operating system also consists of many different parts made by different people, each having their own stance with regards to AI use. It’s impossible to keep a track how all of these projects change their stance over time. |
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muhyb programming.dev muhyb@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-05 |
Makes sense to me. As I said, I'd find this a mild annoyance (at worst even!) if this weren't a Linux distribution. Could (theoretically anyways) be fine enough for OP though.
Yeah, we're in a pickle and I don't like this at all. The core problem is kernel itself though and no distro has enough menpower to maintain a no-AI kernel on parallel. I don't want to imagine how things will be 20 years later at this rate. |
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