Susie Wiles has pushed back, occasionally, but IIRC, was mostly ignored?

Especially when medicare rejects more and more, doesn't cover drugs in itself, long-term care, and a plethora of other things.

Except payments are very low and most providers reject it. IIRC, $11or such for a routine dental visit. Which is fine if we had socialism where education didn't cost a lifetime of repayment.

They can look worse? The pedophilia, rascism, fraud, corruption, destroying our alliances, screwing up our defense stock piles, threatening neighbors and NATO allies, starting another pointless war, destroying the White House, covering for Epstein, making concentration camps, commiting felonies and raping people left any room?

This is assuming we can also get AIPAC the fucking fuck away from our politicians.

Sadly they will just is it as “looks at the dems doing nothing” and still worship the pedophile

Sadly, all of that isn't enough for MAGA. Trump vetoing literally everything would even look bad to them. Consider this, a MAGA veteran has his benefits slashed bcz Trump vetoed a bill with bipartisan support. Even the most indoctrinated would take notice of that.

That's fine but the hope is that he'll never get anything past ever again. And maybe they can defund his big beautiful bill. And one would hope they wouldn't be bowing to their israeli taskmasters but let's not put the card before the horse.

They’ll notice, but then Fox will give them some talking points to justify it to themselves.

They did control the Senate: 50 members (48 Democrats and 2 Independents that caucus with them), plus the Democratic VP to break ties. But they couldn't pass anything Biden ran on because a couple of, "moderates," wouldn't play ball. Just like, even though the Democrats were winning on the shutdown last year, eight, "moderates," decided to cave. The Democrats will always find a few Democrats to be the villains of the week so that the party can betray their voters to please their donors.

No it won’t

It’ll be ‘see, we voted in Democrats but nothing changed’

They'll probably either not care or accuse the receipts of being AI - whatever FOX tells them to do.

Just look at JD Vance and Ted Cruz, both reasonably popular with MAGA Republicans despite openly expressing their contempt for him before he was elected.

"Democrats want to fall in love; Republicans just fall in line."

So we should expect them to forget (or "forget"), but I never will.

That's because they didn't control the senate, they barely had nominal parity which wasn't even a true one because there is like you said always be several right wing people from right wing states that are nominally Democrats but don't support the party consensus. In order to actually control it they need a bigger majority. This conspiracy theory that they do it on purpose is founded on the same principal that alexes joanses of the world are always blabbering about, talking about a shadow government is always fun, but it's counterproductive.

First of all, again, they did control the Senate; Schumer was Majority leader. If you want to argue that they didn't have a strong enough Majority to govern, fine, but that's not what, "control of the Senate," means. Second of all, the last time the Democrats did have a strong Majority in the senate (60 seats at the start of Obama's term), they let the public option get stripped out of the Affordable Care Act and abandoned homeowner mortgage bailouts because they preferred to let one Senator (Joe Lieberman) hijack the negotiations. Either the leadership of this party isn't interested in advancing a progressive agenda or their the most spineless, incompetent negotiators in history.

Sounds like a quick way to get impeached(again) with the followup removal this time... Because Trump doesn't have the decency to step down.

"The incorruptible." You mean the guy who said he'd end mass surveillance and protect whistleblowers and then once in power he continued doing it secretly and hunted Snowden to the ends of the earth when he revealed his crimes?

It's also interesting, because historically, the figure nicknamed "The Incorruptible" was Robespierre, who is generally remembered more for the tens of thousands of deaths he caused than his inability to be bribed. But if you look at how many people died because Obama chose to prolong the hopeless war of aggression in Afghanistan, when as commander-in-chief he had the sole power to end it, he's got Robespierre's terror beat easily.

Obama should be remembered as the guy who normalized everything Bush did and prevented any real chance of ever restoring the country to normalcy. At least with Bush, he wasn't quite as good at marketing all the things he was doing, and there was some token opposition, both domestically and internationally. But Obama marketed imperialism and the surveillance state so well he had people thinking he was a progressive. Now, anyone actually calling for us to just return to the same level of civil rights we had in the 90's is a crazy extremist, because Obama was so effective in defining the bounds of the US "left."

Name one thing Trump could veto that MAGA would care about.

Consider this, a MAGA veteran has his benefits slashed bcz Trump vetoed a bill with bipartisan support.

Yes, but have you considered that that's a GOOD thing from many a MAGA veteran's perspective? A conservative will endure losing benefits as long as it means bad people (aka those of wrong skin colour) also lose it. Remember how he said if the dems win, "everyone will get healthcare" and it was a warning, not a promise.

I for one can't wait to see how democrats will snatch failure from the jaws of victory on this one. Can they impeach him 2 more times with zero consequences?

Especially when they spent the last century dining out on a national myth of “give me liberty or give me death” and being belligerent fucking assholes about “freedom,” crowing about how they’re the BEST IN THE WORLD at defending it, insisted it was necessary to let children die in school shootings all the fucking time in order to be able to handle exactly this scenario- and also everyone else is a bunch of weaklings who only exist because Americans put their lives on the line to defend democracy, and fuck everyone else for even questioning it.

Yeah. That’s wild.

That’s cause they’re controlled opposition

I feel like most voters with low civic knowledge assume the president does everything. You know, the "Biden made inflation happen" types.

Even stupid people will notice when their Healthcare gets worse, things get more expensive, and the VA tells them to fuck off.

They're scared for a reason, you think all this rhetoric about the dems making them pay is for nothing? They're afraid they'll see the inside of a prison cell if congress flips.

All the talking points in the world won't bring down prices or stop them from hearing Trump tell them to their faces that he doesn't care about them or that prices are high. People are starting to finally realize it, he doesn't care about anybody but Trump. Too little too late? Maybe, but they are losing support. It shouldn't have taken this much, but the fact that MAGA is crumbling is a good thing. Let's take the win where we can. There's still plenty of work, but everything doesn't have to be all doom all the time.

You need 2/3rds of the senate to convict so if the best case scenario happens (something like a 54 dem - 46 gop split) Trump still won't get convicted becuase dems still need a dozen gop members to vote with them. So yeah Trump won't get convicted. It's not really dems fault; the rules are dumb as fuck.

Just because our grandparents held onto a mantra doesn't mean we do. Expecting us to be enthusiastic about dying for an ideology that we never agreed with in the first place is just as wild a take. I don't personally know anyone who believed any of that garbage they fed us in elementary school beyond... well, elementary school. It pretty quickly became clear that it's all propaganda. The folks who didn't recognize that are the same ones who're okay with the current status quo.

Impeachment without knowing they have at least 60 votes before the trial starts is definitely a waste. There is some value in having the trial and making Republicans be on record as supporting trump. You do need to know it won't be a straight party line vote though, or any benefits are mostly wasted.

YOU are okay with the current status quo or you’d be doing something about it.

It’s fine, get defensive if you want, but the truth is you are way too comfortable and refuse to risk that comfort to fix the problems you pay lip service to opposing.

That'd be nice but I'm thinking even simpler things that expose the MAGA-cares-about-Americans lie and avoid third rail topics. The point is to punch fatal holes in Trump's power. Overreaching is the easiest way to blow any lead that we gain. I don't want to sound like Seth Moulton but we're going to get much farther by picking the right battles. The MAGA base feeds on culture war bullshit so don't give it to them.

• Tax the rich. Progressive tax schemes.
• Housing affordability
• Restore ACA, Medicaid
• Restore SNAP (and flood the news with enough legit Trump corruption stories that they don't dare say the name "Minnesota")

If you want to go international, start with Ukraine and Iran. We don't even need to investigate the kompromat. Just pass a bill with undeniable support for Ukraine - missiles, intel, etc.

Dems should start holding daily WH-style press conferences in a dedicated space. Give it enough gravitas that the right wing news can't ignore it.

First EO of the next president "All Trump EOs are null and void"

Delusion, cons politician would never, everything about their behavior suggests they would continue backing him.

Congress can assert its authority over executive orders that are illegal. Hopefully they will start

Maybe but their primary motive is keeping their power. If there's a big loss for Republicans because of Trump it might cause them to decide that Trump is a liability.

Probably a typo, but just in case: cart, not card. ;)

Well, this wouldn't be impeachable, it's not that far off from business as usual.

Back during Obama's presidency, the GOP in fact relied upon that reality. They passed a repeal of ACA multiple times to pander to their campaign promises of getting rid of it. Then as soon as they held the presidency, suddenly they couldn't pass that repeal.

They should slam him first do really give it to him

Seeing as they've already helped the Republicans vote down impeachment this year and not just a onsie, twosie thing either. I mean I think it's a foregone conclusion that the centrist assholes in leadership aren't going to do fuck all.

I'm fully expecting these jackasses to be like all of the other centrist apologists on social media and fall back on the excuse of "Well Republicans in the Senate won't vote for it so it's better to not try to hold Trump accountable at all." weak sauce bullshit. We all know that when the going gets tough, the centrists don't do shit.

Impeachment requires 2/3 of Senate, making it vetoe'd unless we can swing some Rs.

I think you're equating "doing something about it" with violence, and if that's the case, then no, I'm not 'doing something about it', but I'm not doing nothing, either. However, I don't feel the need to justify my activism to a stranger on the internet, so I'm going to leave it at that.

They won't have enough majority to override and will get blamed for not fixing everything and in '28 they choose maga again. I hope I'm wrong tho.

That seems to be dependent on a dramatic misconception of how American politics works.

Is it? This coming midterm election's prime issue is affordability.

It seems that only a very small demographic are observing this type of information

Most voters are paying attention to affordability issues. Increasing American incomes, lowering medical costs, controlling residential electricity costs, stopping the stupid war in Iran, all speak to affordability.

Cool. Threaten to shut down government while running for re-election.

USA needs to take POTUS behind the shed and dock his balls. The system gives POTUS far too much power.

When has impeachment ever had consequences? It's bullshit.

That's why this has to be blue tsunami or the next two years will be down the drain as far as passing anything.

They still need to make the effort just so that people will see Trump vetoing the "don't rape children act" every month.

But I fear they'll just use the lack of veto override as an excuse to stay on vacation for another two years.

There's a roughly 20% swing on polling if it's called the "Affordable Care Act" compared to "Obamacare". It's one of the most underappreciated bills in American history; the GOP doesn't want to become the dog that caught the very popular car.

Part of me actually wonders if he is fucking up badly enough that there are enough republicans willing to vote to remove at this point. Not because of any moral issues but because his bullshit is actually bothering rich people at this point and the MAGA cult has significantly less influence now so they are less worried about being removed via primary.

The system gives The supreme court and congress gave POTUS far too much power.

POTUS was co-equal with checks and balances but the Heritage Foundation's betrayal of democracy has been focused on concentrating power in the executive so they can make Gilead.

That's the problem with Republicans. Even when they disagree, they always vote in unison. It's why we have the ratchet effect. Republicans always vote together regardless of their own personal views and Democrats vote with their feelings. When Republicans are in power, they move right quickly without dissent. When Democrats are in power, they cannot agree on how to vote and it causes gridlock.

That's the system. Why the fuck is SCOTUS a job for life.

Even when the opposite party is in power, they never follow up on impeachment "to heal the divide".

Fucking Kang or Kudos.