I mean, the kind of guy that wants a relationship with a kid.... seems pretty immature to me

The thing that sucks is every time I tell someone this shit in some circles I get flamed to hell. We need to fucking excise the prudes from the left.

... What she ended up concluding as well.

Yes - in fact they actually have no place in society, which is stressful, and grew up with teachers and parents always turning to them and going "oh by the way, the society you inherit from us isn't going to work. Not sorry." So they had the dread of knowing that, being informed they had to work harder and be smarter than generations before them.

There is a LOT of antipathy from Zoomers and Millennials towards Boomers, and some of it is even directed to Gen X, and some Zoomers hate Millennials.

When you get a job as gen z it's always like "we're doing you a favour, kid, we don't really need you." Other generations act like they're babysitters for us. Many Gen Z rise to this position and act very immaturely because being obnoxious is in-vogue (e.g Looksmaxxing, Andrew Tate, tiktok bullying - it trickles down)

You think a 75 yo is taking advantage of a 45 yo? That 45 yo are not mature enough?

they aren't but you know , people gunna be judgy, much the same mindset as Conservatives fascinated with genetalia in bathrooms and sports fields, same stupidity, just ignore them.

The age past 18 only serves as a gross oversimplification of a person. It's a naive measurement at best.

At 23 she could be 5 years in the workforce. People vary quite a lot.

I do have a 31 year old platonic dom as a 20 year old. They are pretty cool and respectful. It is OK to be uncomfortable about age gaps but don't yuck anybody's yum and let me have my agency

I'm just tired of the non stop infantilization of women. Not to mention the only times I really see people commenting on age gaps, they end up being men.

Your brain continues developing throughout your whole life, otherwise no one would be able to learn new skills or information after whatever the cutoff point is and things like strokes and TBIs would not be recoverable.

That study said 25 because that's the age the cohort was at when it was cut off.

It mostly works, though at the early edge it's a little dicey. I'm not sure I'm cool with a 20 y.o. dating a 17 y.o. Maybe require a firewall between high school and college, excepting HS seniors dating college freshmen.

Whole lot of fucking losers in this thread who took a green text seriously. What's the first rule of a green text you idiots?

Even the younger one can be the one who has the power over the older one (i.e., gerontophilia). It's not at all unidirectional and monolithic.

The only reason why I don't like that "I like mature men" is that, hell, is hard to find a partner of my same age! Lol

Bu is just that, it's up to them the decision, and hopely they'll be happy with it.

I have feeling that platonic is not the right word for that unless you genuinely derive nothing sexual from it and just want to be bullied cause you hate yourself or something

lmfao

"It's not easy being green" /j

you don't think it's creepy when some 40 year old is dating 18 year olds?

see, I think there are social pressures, verbal and nonverbal cues, mores - whatever you want to call it, that aren't infantilizing a woman being creeped on by old assholes. they're expressing a discomfort with something that rarely succeeds and often disrupts normal development.

I'm old. I've never seen a 40 year old woman dating an 18 year old man. Ever. I've lived in 20+ states and 3 other countries. My experiences aren't evidence against, but they tell me enough; especially compared to the troves of women I know personally who were catcalled, propositioned, groped and more by men old enough to be their grandfathers, many not even women yet - girls.

So stop worrying about the 'infantilization', it's not a problem compared to the other end of the spectrum, where women and girls are being sexually objectified, groomed and harassed by grown men.

oh's no's - the creeps are upset by this posting, boo fuckin whoooo

It is OK to be uncomfortable about age gaps but don’t yuck anybody’s yum and let me have my agency

It's curious to see people who champion gender affirming care for 20 year olds suddenly get skittish when they find out 20 year olds might do other things with their genitals.

Like, are you an adult or aren't you?

I’m just tired of the non stop infantilization of women.

Really, anyone younger than the reader's age. It's how you get some moldy NYT editor insisting 40-year-olds (of the wealthy and powerful) described in the same language as a child.

Simultaneously, we get low income school kids caught in drug stings or busted for petty vandalism or arrested for loitering described as adults.

And don't even get started on abortion or gender affirming care. Too young to decide for yourself, but never too young to be prosecuted as an adult.

Feels like we're always moving the goalposts on when adulthood begins.

"I've seen "age gap" relationships that were fine. I've also seen them where it was some incredibly fucked up dynamics being acted out."

So like any relationship

I think they mean non romantic. Source am a dom of a similar age with a few subs that are around that age. Not like I'm exactly shopping for an age gap they just keep hitting me up looking for a daddy experience.

you don't talk about green texts

especially compared to the troves of women I know personally who were catcalled, propositioned, groped and more by men old enough to be their grandfathers, many not even women yet - girls.

Yeah here's the problem, an 18 year old woman being with a 40 year old man is nothing like a young woman being sexually harassed by men they don't know. Trying to conflate the two is ridiculous.

It might be rare. It might be odd to you. You are in no way capable of deciding for either of them what is right for them. Especially considering you, for whatever reason, think being a gold digger is the same as being groomed. That's not even addressing all the other harmless ways an 18 year old woman finds herself with a man much older than herself.

Yes, like any other relationship.

Like the "conservative" that wants a "trad wife" who's been shamed into staying submissive to an asshole.

Or the person that goes after vulnerable people because they're abusive and want someone they know they can abuse.

Or like the person that goes after much younger partners because they're manipulative, controlling, and have better luck with someone who lacks the life experience to see through their bullshit.

It's almost like in all of those scenarios there's flags that indicate there could (again, because apparently reading is hard: not "is" -- could) be a problem.

it took me a while to realize that lots of people try to destabilize the relationships of their neighbors in a subconscious attempt to advance themselves that way, because they're removing competition from the game.

Old enough to go to war and die, can't buy a beer.

Make it make sense, and no I don't mean lower the drinking age.

33 / 2 = 16.5
16.5 + 7 = 23.5
23.5 < 24

You're fine.

Do you think if society was structured differently (i.e pre-adult education was actually deemed useful and allowed people to get job relevant skills) that age range would move down?

The idea that 21-25 are easily tricked by older people rings true but I’m also thinking there’s a lot of things about current society that infantilises those people, or rather, gets them to actually act immaturely and see themselves as immature

society tries to push people towards having kids later in life because society fully expects a societal downturn. subconscious dooming about the economy has gone on since at least 2008 and you can actually see diagrams like these:

you can see how it starts declining after 2008, probably because people understood that the financial world was not as stable as they had believed and hardships are incoming, and that causes people to have children later in life (which actually has been a historical pattern for centuries).

yes, lots of people are nuts.

no, it's creepy and you know it.

this isn't controversial it's common, and you know it. trying to reframe it this way is asinine and deluded.

That’s not even addressing all the other harmless ways an 18 year old woman finds herself with a man much older than herself.

pfft sure thing creep

no, it's creepy and you know it.

What a substantive argument, you really put me in my place.

... uh, um... "fake and gay"?

you, for whatever reason, think being a gold digger is the same as being groomed.

it's genuinely fucking creepy bro. you present a binary: young women with substantially older men are gold diggers, but they can't be victims of grooming?

definition of fucking creepy

Are we doing /j now? Is that meant to tell people it's a joke? If you need to tell people it's a joke it's probably not funny.

That isn't what I said at all, and totally confirms your complete lack of acknowledgement that women have agency. Congrats, you played yourself.

Fake: Anon has a friend

Gay: the fake friend is a man

You'll live.

you don't think it's creepy when some 40 year old is dating 18 year olds?

The post said 27 and 20.

Especially considering that Epstein had his hands in 4chan stuff.

Our ages don’t determine the power dynamics of the world around us.

Non romantic dominatrix?

I have a very general rule. 25 and older are all fair game, no matter your age.
Now, that's me. Someone can argue 23 is fine... Well, okay. 21 is my absolute hard limit for the general rule.

Yeah here’s the problem, an 18 year old woman being with a 40 year old man is nothing like a young woman being sexually harassed by men they don’t know. Trying to conflate the two is ridiculous.

your own assertions, did you forget what you wrote already?

dementia is setting in

I’m just tired of the non stop infantilization of women. Not to mention the only times I really see people commenting on age gaps, they end up being men.

I'm talking to creepy poster above. come on man, in order to follow the thread of the conversation you really need to read them in order otherwise get your notepad out and take notes

The age gap under discussion was 20 and 27, not 18 and 40.

Oh, that's presenting a binary?

You should probably learn what the words you use are before using them.

I know what creep means, and it's you.