Oh look, no answer! What a shock!

Not responding to anything else until you do. You shitlibs lie as easily as breathing. You justify blatant lies the same way you justify selling out minorities and supporting genocide. You are despicable, lying, backstabbing scum.

It's the same way, from top to bottom. Y'all can see how easily people like @givesomefucks@lemmy.world lie. The only thing separating people like that from their politicians is that the politicians are professionals at it, and don't offen do it in such a blatant and amateurish way. But they're all liars through and through. And why wouldn't they be? Their "morals" are all about "the ends justify the means," if lying helps them get ahead, of course they will. The thing to understand here is that people like that, as soon as they get in power, will see that working for the billionaires and corporations against the people is the best way to get ahead. So they do that, and they lie to us, exactly the same way @givesomefucks@lemmy.world is lying to everyone right here.

This is exactly why we shouldn't support these people, and why we need our own party that will kick out careerists, opportunists, and class traitors, and will stand in solidarity with everyone, regardless of this or that minority status. It's the only way forward, the only way that we can unite the people and resist the billionaires and the fascists! Telling these lying, careerist shitlibs to get fucked is the first step toward real progress.

and why we need our own party that will kick out careerists, opportunists, and class traitors, and will stand in solidarity with everyone

And...

You think the time to do that is two weeks before our chance to limit trump?

It wasn't back in the primary, or even months ago when candidates might have been able to replace them.

The time for you to convince people to not vote D is two weeks before the election?

What candidate in the Iowa Senate race are you going to vote for?

Or I guess, what candidate do you think people should vote for? Or are you just straight up telling people not to vote at all?

...who is?

In December 2024 the NCAA counted just under 510,000 collegiate level athletes. That same year less than 10 of them were transgender.

One study found that of the trans women who competed in sports about 41% of them did improve their competition level.

However, the sample size used to determine this statistic was 52 transgender women over a period of 8 years.

This problem is so niche that it’s difficult to even study.

They have us all worked up over nothing, in the interim all trans people see is millions of people debating our rights and hyper-fixating on all the ways we might be different, when most of us don’t even compete in the first place.

Trans people are famously under-represented in sports as a percentage of our overall population… mostly because we are terrified of the bad optics and the circus it brings.

Asshile

How did someone cook this up and why does it seem to have traction?

They cooked it up through careful focus testing to find something they could use as a wedge issue. The people behind it want to completely eradicate trans people, but they know that ordinary people aren't there yet. So they have all kinds of think tanks trying to find ways to get people to side against trans rights on a particular issue, and once they found something they dumped tons of money into ads targeting that one thing. It could've been anything, sports just happened to be the thing that tested well for them. If we back down, then they'll move on to the next issue, and so on until they get what they want.

Every time the Democrats break ranks, all they're doing is validating the right's attacks in hopes of a temporary advantage in a handful of races. The more they give in, the more the right will repeat the process and find new points to use as a wedges. Even if the Democrats completely surrender on trans rights, gays and lesbians will be next.

https://lemmy.zip/comment/29641868

Turek is

As a trans woman who’s an army veteran using VA healthcare, this sentiment would deny me my right to medicine and treatment.

I served my country. I shouldn’t be penalized just because I also happen to be transgender.

Regardless, it shouldn’t matter that I’m a veteran. Anyone with access to government funded health care who happens to have gender dysphoria should be allowed to get treatment for it.

Grow a spine.

Still no answer. See, it's exactly like I said.

There's no reason to engage with anything they say, because they've proven themselves to be a liar, through and through. Every word they speak is bad faith, and should simply be dismissed and disregarded. They're just like the politicians they support.

If you engage with them, they'll just lie, on every point. They believe that this shitlib is actually going to work for them, which is utterly delusional, but regardless it's what they believe. So long as they believe that, they have zero reservations about lying to advance their agenda!

Kick these lying shitlibs to the curb! No support for transphobes! Show them what happens when they abandon our loved ones!

I assume someone as well versed in logic as you has heard of occam's razor (jk I think you are a reddit-tier debatelord and am sure you have heard of it and can rattle of a whole bunch of logical fallacies without even being able to give a definition of what an argument is).

What's more is that this isn't a logic debate, you are trying to convince me that I'm wrong and the man saying transphobic shit isn't actually a transphobe. How do you hope to succeed if you don't offer anything tangible? Your entire argument is "it could also be a clever ruse to use a dog-whistle to catch some votes without actually saying anything literally wrong" which sounds incredibly implausible to me, so you will have to offer something other than a "nuh-uh" if you hope to change my mind and convince me of this thing that, to me, sounds incredibly far-fetched.

Show them what happens

MAGA gets elected?

If Iowans don't vote for this guy, this shithead becomes a Senator:

Protect parents’ rights by giving families a stronger voice in their children’s education and increasing transparency in schools, especially as some Iowa schools have pushed policies that allow kids to secretly change their gender identity at school.

Hold Communist China accountable for ripping off American jobs and innovation, purchasing American farmland, and implementing unfair trade practices that hurt Iowa farmers, workers, and businesses.

https://ashleyhinson.com/issues/

I feel like at least one of those would be enough for you to say the Dem is better than the MAGA alternative

Answer my question, or you're admitting that every word I've said about you is true.

What question?

Why would he say it if he wasn’t talking about trans people? I know you won’t answer, because there is no answer, because we both know exactly what he meant. You’re just going to weasel your way out of it like the utter slime you are.

I've said that already:

If you agree that transitioning changes gender, then what he says is fine.

If you don't agree with that, it sounds "anti-trans"...

If Fetterman can lie about his whole platform to get elected, why is it such a problem that Turek said the right thing in a way that would depress Republican turnout?

I've explained that multiple times, but everytime I ask who you think should be the Senator, you just start calling me names.

Hinson is worse than Turek on LGBT issues, everything else, and counts toward a trump friendly senate.

So who do you think people should vote for?

An open fascist or the person who you think is secretly a fascist because he said something that you've repeatedly said you agree with personally?

Seriously how is “people can do it but the state won’t pay” fucking “anti-trans”?

Because some people are lucky enough to have state healthcare who would lose their care. And because we all know this wont' be applied to other Gender Affirming care like hair restoration or Viagra.

There's so many ways to see this as an attack on people it's confusing how people refuse to understand it

Edit: saw comments from Iowas on another platform and yeah, same primary nonsense about “safe bets in general” and establishment dems screwing over progressives with endorsements and money. I guess I’m grateful we see cracks in that finally, with better candidates in places like Michigan and such.

For more background the Dem running for Governor is also doing i'm actually center not left see me working with Republicans. Iowa Dems continue to do the failing move center strategy that has failed for decades. DNC also just gave up on the state after Obama so it's not like they even try anymore.

If you agree that transitioning changes gender, then what he says is fine.

Not remotely an answer to why else he would say it.

If Fetterman can lie about his whole platform to get elected, why is it such a problem that Turek said the right thing in a way that would depress Republican turnout?

LMAO! Are you seriously using Fetterman as a positive example?

That's right, everybody. Vote for Turek, if you think we need another Fetterman! Fetterman, a perfect example of what happens when you elect a liar.

What does it even matter what his platform even is, if he's proven he'll lie to get ahead? Every word of that platform could easily be lies, because he, like his supporters, lies and backstabs and sells people down the river the moment it's convenient.

This is exactly why we need to split from the party and form our own, where we will kick out the Fettermans, the Tureks, the givesomefucks, all these liars and opportunists, and not allow ourselves to be associated with the horrible, toxic, dishonest things that they do and say. Only then will we have a chance and building real solidarity with the people, we cannot do it while associating with their kind.

I’ve explained that multiple times

Here we have another lie. Show me where you "explained that" even a single time. You really can't help yourself, can you?

The fury these people fill me with. Iowa deserves better than this piece of shit.

The sport thing triggers the panic in the intellectually challenged. It makes them think of their little girls upset and triggers their lizard brain revulsion.

Rome wasn't built in a day, we need to vote for these clowns and primary them next time. I'm not in Iowa but I'd struggle to vote for this guy if I were. I hope Iowans do the right thing for the sake of all though, because while this guy is trash, the gop are actual devils.

You should see their rants on how the neoliberals are out of the dnc/dnc is improving

LMAO! Are you seriously using Fetterman as a positive example?

No, but you're clearly going to keep "misunderstanding" things

The worst thing you can accuse me of (baselessly) is what you blatantly are.

This shouldn't be a political issue, like bathrooms.

These are private organizations and they should be able to make their own rules for their own competitions. Weight, sex, capability or lack thereof, steroids yes or no, and so on

Should there be government funding for sports programs in schools? No. So, again, not an issue. Most students aren't in sports teams. Let the parents and teachers dictate their own sports programs and finance them (or charity, or their town even, just not feds)

It's a non-government issue really, like abortion, it's making something political where there should be no politics. Seriously, as is this will be one lawsuit after another for centuries, enough

It's so funny to me that they keep degrading their argument to things that are just objectively worse to try and paint me as the one that is misinterpreting their arguments. We went through

• "That isn't what he says in the ad" -> https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928/29637695
• "Ok that's what he says but he doesn't mean 'everyone' only trans kids (this is somehow ok and totally not transphobic). He is responding to a republican attack ad from June (? lmao). Actually he supports preferred pronouns in schools, he supports hormone blockers for minors, he supports adults having surgery." -> https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928/29638812
• "So he does actually mean it like that but only to trick red voters. However if we take what you understand as 'male' and not how the phrase is commonly used it isn't transphobic" -> https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928/29639358
• "No I don't have any proof of this but you don't either so..." -> https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928/29639609
• "Well you're only posting his own ad as proof to spread republican propaganda" -> https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928/29639695
• "You just assume that he used in the way that everyone understands it even though I keep telling you about how I understand it" -> https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928/29639695
• "All I'm saying is that there is possibility that this guy isn't a transphobe..." -> https://lemmy.zip/post/73859928/29640383

I keep arguing against the stronger claim and they're then trying to pull a "you keep not understanding me, I meant <thing that's even less convincing>!!!" 🤣

I absolutely agree with you and I'm sorry you are the focus of so much vitriol from ignorant sociopaths. Still, I encourage you not to stand by and choose nothing over the least bad option when the final decision affects everyone. It feels like I'm always holding my nose while in the voting booth. I'm about to do it big-time next week to put a proven corrupt crony in office to keep a reprehensible creature out. I hope we will have better options in the future if we have Reps and Senators that work and succeed to get money out of politics.

I keep arguing against the stronger claim and they're then trying to pull a "you keep not understanding me, I meant <thing that's even less convincing>!!!" 🤣

It's all they ever do