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Gpennyhigh
lemmy.world
Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-09-28 |
I mean, we absolutely could test this experimentally, depending on the nature of these hypothetical beings. For example, you could give multiple participants these mushrooms. Bring them into a sealed room one by one. Ask them to report the number of tiny beings around them. Ask them to politely ask the tiny beings to remain where they are. Imagine if you cycled ten participants through, and eac...
Yes, use scientific method or Sagan's baloney detection kit! Maybe a study that checks brainwaves to see what areas are active during the experiment and see what happens, measurable things in the tests and in the control group to study it.
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ElChinchilla
lemmy.world
ElChinchilla@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-14 |
Ive done enough drugs in my life to kill a rhino and in all my trips ive never hallucinated more than visual trails and lights. This has me intrigued.
Have you ever smoked salvia extract? That will alter reality |
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doublenut
sh.itjust.works
doublenut@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Before reading this, I was going to share something about salvia as well. Its the only drug where I had actual real life hallucinations. Once after smoking it, my living room was filled with friends in a party/birthday setting (I was actually alone at that moment).
Man I just thought I can't imagine doing salvia alone. Then came to the realization you're basically doing salvia alone every single time. |
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MouldyCat
feddit.uk
MouldyCat@feddit.ukJoined: 2024-11-25 |
What if each person hallucinates a number of tiny people per square meter so everyone would see equally amount because of the inherent size of the room? What's the next step to determine they're real? Different sized rooms?
we can cross that bridge when we come to it... |
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crystalmathadept
lemmy.zip
crystalmathadept@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-15 |
It hasn't been widely available in the west and needs to be rather fresh. Heat destroys this particular effect of the mushroom,for example.
What exactly is destroyed by heat? Is there a compound in the mushroom that has been identified? |
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bss03
infosec.pub
bss03@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-10-02 |
What exactly is destroyed by heat? Is there a compound in the mushroom that has been identified?
In the article they mention no specific substance has been isolated. Though, there are now 2 (or 3) varieties of mushroom each from a different location that provide similar hallucinations, so it might be easier to find the substance if it is shared by all the varieties and if there aren't a lot of other chemicals in common. They do know it's not psilocybin or LSD (in these mushrooms). |
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rumba
lemmy.zip
rumba@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-09-24 |
Yes, use scientific method or Sagan's baloney detection kit! Maybe a study that checks brainwaves to see what areas are active during the experiment and see what happens, measurable things in the tests and in the control group to study it. Lilliputian hallucinations refer to the perception of small beings, often resembling tiny humans or animals, that appear to interact with the real world. The...
That's exactly what the Lilliputians want you to think |
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Thteven
lemmy.world
Thteven@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-16 |
The most intense hallucination I've ever experienced by a wide margin was from salvia, which is legal for some fucking reason. Literally everything I could see and hear wasn't real. I guess I'm glad I did it but I think I'm not going to do it again. Thankfully is only lasts a few minutes. Edit: during my trip, I realized that the entire world was passing by in frames just like a movie and I fel...
Man it's always layers of reality peeling away or something like that with Salvia, I've heard that same sort of trip story many times. It's wild that so many have similar experiences with a hallucinogen. |
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farmgineer
nord.pub
farmgineer@nord.pub Joined: 2026-04-25 |
Ive done enough drugs in my life to kill a rhino and in all my trips ive never hallucinated more than visual trails and lights. This has me intrigued.
I was at a party ~25 years ago and there were kittens running around. At some point, it became unclear to me which of the kittens were real. Some definitely were, but I was sometimes unsure if what was running around me was actual kitten or hallucinated kitten. That's probably the furthest gone I'd been and I still was able to understand that this was the situation. I also did a lot of stuff back then (and don't touch anything these days). |
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CosmicCrab
lemmy.today
CosmicCrab@lemmy.today Joined: 2026-09-21 |
In the article they mention no specific substance has been isolated. Though, there are now 2 (or 3) varieties of mushroom each from a different location that provide similar hallucinations, so it might be easier to find the substance if it is shared by all the varieties and if there aren't a lot of other chemicals in common. They do know it's not psilocybin or LSD (in these mushrooms).
Yes, even further than that, there is no known hallucinogen in these mushrooms. Identifying the mechanism could open up some interesting possibilities. Side note, the onset of the effects is 12-24 hours after the ingestion of the raw or undercooked mushrooms. This delayed onset has resulted in the hypothesis that the active compound is actually a prodrug that gets converted into something else that's psychoactive as we metabolize it. I've been following this story for a while and find it fascinating. Can't wait for Hamilton Morris to do a video on it. |
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stein2027
lemmy.world
stein2027@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-25 |
The trip to Lilliput sounds fun. The return trip through the ER, not so much. |
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Vandals_handle
lemmy.world
Vandals_handle@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-14 |
That's exactly what the Lilliputians want you to think
That's what big Lilliputian wants you to think! Don't be gullible! |
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Agent641
lemmy.world
Agent641@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-12 |
The difference with them is that they can see us all the time.
Uhh.... All the time? Even when I'm...? |
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whyNotSquirrel
sh.itjust.works
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Is it hallucination or ability? |
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whyNotSquirrel
sh.itjust.works
whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-10 |
How could a chemical agent control the hallucination so specifically? I mean, distorting perception of size makes sense, but tiny colorful people?
is there like local stories about those tiny humans that could influence people mind? Or again, it doesn't give hallucinations but just the ability to see the tiny people, that's the most logical conclusion! |
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notabot
piefed.social
notabot@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Uhh.... All the time? Even when I'm...?
Garak: Especially when you're... |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
I’ve heard DMT described as seeing little cities or a village of workers working away. I wonder if it’s similar.
I'll stop short of saying that everyone who describes DMT that way is a fool (drugs can affect people differently, and I've never taken it orally so maybe I'm missing something), but the "machine elf" stuff is just nonsense. It's just your brain making insane fractal patterns that fold in on themselves and shit. It's pretty cool, but there are no "entities" waiting for you. |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
It hasn't been widely available in the west and needs to be rather fresh. Heat destroys this particular effect of the mushroom,for example.
Someone send the weird lanky dude with the vocal fry! (Me pretending that I don't know his name is Hamilton). He's still alive right? |
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Concetta
lemmy.blahaj.zone
vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Apparently the hallucinations appear whether your eyes are open or closed and last for up to a week, sometimes more depending on dosage. And those are from people who ate some that were undercooked, so presumably most of the psychoactive material had been neutralized. It doesn't sound like a pleasant experience.
I mean, that never stopped the good folx on https://www.erowid.org/ |
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crystalmathadept
lemmy.zip
crystalmathadept@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-15 |
In the article they mention no specific substance has been isolated. Though, there are now 2 (or 3) varieties of mushroom each from a different location that provide similar hallucinations, so it might be easier to find the substance if it is shared by all the varieties and if there aren't a lot of other chemicals in common. They do know it's not psilocybin or LSD (in these mushrooms).
Well lsd isn’t found in nature, but it is synthesized from ergot, a grain fungus. |
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Seth Taylor
lemmy.world
SethTaylor@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-04-06 |
Ok, suuuuuper awkward thing to say here but... my penis is precisely one Lilliputian tall, which I understand to be just about average Also, in Romanian, "puța" means penis Are there other languages with a similar word for penis? Did Jonathan Swift know this? Was this deliberate? Are the Lilliputians really just "Lil' dicks" ? EDIT: Has John Oliver already done this? I feel like John Oliver has already done this |
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bss03
infosec.pub
bss03@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-10-02 |
Well lsd isn’t found in nature, but it is synthesized from ergot, a grain fungus.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but the article keeps referencing it like it would be something we'd be likely to find while sciencing those mushrooms. |
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SaveTheTuaHawk
lemmy.ca
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-07 |
Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that. |
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Fluke
feddit.uk
Fluke@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-07-01 |
Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that.
IIRC, this one in particular causes the exact same effect no matter the cultural background of the subject, even when the subject is going in blind to the exact effects. |
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cb900f_bodhi
fedinsfw.app
cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-04-09 |
I find this sketchy. There would be reports on erowid or bluelight and there are none. I think this is bs
Hard to believe, yes. But very real. University of Utah published some research on this last year, I am fairly certain. Check it out. Really amazing |
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ramenshaman
lemmy.world
ramenshaman@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-29 |
Have you ever smoked salvia extract? That will alter reality
I have not and I'm planning to keep it that way |
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RampantParanoia2365
lemmy.world
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-02 |
Did you consider the tiny people are always there? The mushroom just lifts the veil from your consciousness, allowing you to see them.
Yes, Jonas, we considered that. |
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RampantParanoia2365
lemmy.world
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-02 |
What exactly is destroyed by heat? Is there a compound in the mushroom that has been identified?
...since this article was written? Uh, probably not. |
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RampantParanoia2365
lemmy.world
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-02 |
Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that.
Yeah, uh, not so much. I've heard of plenty of mushroom and acid trips that I've never experienced. Would be nice though, I'd love to know what the color Purple sounds like. |
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ElChinchilla
lemmy.world
ElChinchilla@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-14 |
I have not and I'm planning to keep it that way
I don't recommend it unless you are really into/actively exploring psychedelics. My response was directed towards the comment from 11111one11111 specifically. They mentioned trails and lights and figured they may enjoy a few minutes of yarn people and claymation |
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ElChinchilla
lemmy.world
ElChinchilla@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-08-14 |
The most intense hallucination I've ever experienced by a wide margin was from salvia, which is legal for some fucking reason. Literally everything I could see and hear wasn't real. I guess I'm glad I did it but I think I'm not going to do it again. Thankfully is only lasts a few minutes. Edit: during my trip, I realized that the entire world was passing by in frames just like a movie and I fel...
Follow up from the other comment. That sounds like a good one! Intense as fuck for sure... I got "rolled up in a carpet" as the world unraveled one time. |
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Alenalda
lemmy.world
Alenalda@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-21 |
Yeah, uh, not so much. I've heard of plenty of mushroom and acid trips that I've never experienced. Would be nice though, I'd love to know what the color Purple sounds like.
I think it hits people differently. I had a acid trip once where it was an out of body experience. I had like daredevil vision at a pink floyd tribute concert. I could see the entire venue from any perspective from where i was standing. Sounds crazy but that was my experience. |
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nilloc
discuss.tchncs.de
nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-06-22 |
I'll stop short of saying that everyone who describes DMT that way is a fool (drugs can affect people differently, and I've never taken it orally so maybe I'm missing something), but the "machine elf" stuff is just nonsense. It's just your brain making insane fractal patterns that fold in on themselves and shit. It's pretty cool, but there are no "entities" waiting for you.
Yeah that’s pretty much what I assumed too. |
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