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This mysterious mushroom makes people see hundreds of tiny humans | ScienceDaily
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Gpennyhigh lemmy.world Gpennyhigh@lemmy.world
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#52 · (edited) Quote Reply

I mean, we absolutely could test this experimentally, depending on the nature of these hypothetical beings. For example, you could give multiple participants these mushrooms. Bring them into a sealed room one by one. Ask them to report the number of tiny beings around them. Ask them to politely ask the tiny beings to remain where they are. Imagine if you cycled ten participants through, and eac...

Yes, use scientific method or Sagan's baloney detection kit! Maybe a study that checks brainwaves to see what areas are active during the experiment and see what happens, measurable things in the tests and in the control group to study it.

Lilliputian hallucinations refer to the perception of small beings, often resembling tiny humans or animals, that appear to interact with the real world. These hallucinations can occur from this shroom, certain neurological disorders and alcohol withdrawal. Lilliputian.

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ElChinchilla lemmy.world ElChinchilla@lemmy.world
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#53 · Quote Reply

Ive done enough drugs in my life to kill a rhino and in all my trips ive never hallucinated more than visual trails and lights. This has me intrigued.

Have you ever smoked salvia extract? That will alter reality

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doublenut sh.itjust.works doublenut@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-04
#54 · Quote Reply

Before reading this, I was going to share something about salvia as well. Its the only drug where I had actual real life hallucinations. Once after smoking it, my living room was filled with friends in a party/birthday setting (I was actually alone at that moment).

Man I just thought I can't imagine doing salvia alone. Then came to the realization you're basically doing salvia alone every single time.
With other halucinagynics you often have shared hallucinations or at least thoughts and experiences with the people you're partaking with but with salvia the minute you hit it you're on your own on a very personal journey.

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MouldyCat feddit.uk MouldyCat@feddit.uk
Joined: 2024-11-25
#55 · Quote Reply

What if each person hallucinates a number of tiny people per square meter so everyone would see equally amount because of the inherent size of the room? What's the next step to determine they're real? Different sized rooms?

we can cross that bridge when we come to it...

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crystalmathadept lemmy.zip crystalmathadept@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-15
#56 · Quote Reply

It hasn't been widely available in the west and needs to be rather fresh. Heat destroys this particular effect of the mushroom,for example.

What exactly is destroyed by heat? Is there a compound in the mushroom that has been identified?

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bss03 infosec.pub bss03@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-10-02
#57 · (edited) Quote Reply

What exactly is destroyed by heat? Is there a compound in the mushroom that has been identified?

In the article they mention no specific substance has been isolated. Though, there are now 2 (or 3) varieties of mushroom each from a different location that provide similar hallucinations, so it might be easier to find the substance if it is shared by all the varieties and if there aren't a lot of other chemicals in common.

They do know it's not psilocybin or LSD (in these mushrooms).

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rumba lemmy.zip rumba@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2024-09-24
#58 · Quote Reply

Yes, use scientific method or Sagan's baloney detection kit! Maybe a study that checks brainwaves to see what areas are active during the experiment and see what happens, measurable things in the tests and in the control group to study it. Lilliputian hallucinations refer to the perception of small beings, often resembling tiny humans or animals, that appear to interact with the real world. The...

That's exactly what the Lilliputians want you to think

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Thteven lemmy.world Thteven@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

The most intense hallucination I've ever experienced by a wide margin was from salvia, which is legal for some fucking reason. Literally everything I could see and hear wasn't real. I guess I'm glad I did it but I think I'm not going to do it again. Thankfully is only lasts a few minutes. Edit: during my trip, I realized that the entire world was passing by in frames just like a movie and I fel...

Man it's always layers of reality peeling away or something like that with Salvia, I've heard that same sort of trip story many times. It's wild that so many have similar experiences with a hallucinogen.

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farmgineer nord.pub farmgineer@nord.pub
Joined: 2026-04-25
#60 · Quote Reply

Ive done enough drugs in my life to kill a rhino and in all my trips ive never hallucinated more than visual trails and lights. This has me intrigued.

I was at a party ~25 years ago and there were kittens running around. At some point, it became unclear to me which of the kittens were real. Some definitely were, but I was sometimes unsure if what was running around me was actual kitten or hallucinated kitten. That's probably the furthest gone I'd been and I still was able to understand that this was the situation. I also did a lot of stuff back then (and don't touch anything these days).

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CosmicCrab lemmy.today CosmicCrab@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-09-21
#61 · Quote Reply

In the article they mention no specific substance has been isolated. Though, there are now 2 (or 3) varieties of mushroom each from a different location that provide similar hallucinations, so it might be easier to find the substance if it is shared by all the varieties and if there aren't a lot of other chemicals in common. They do know it's not psilocybin or LSD (in these mushrooms).

Yes, even further than that, there is no known hallucinogen in these mushrooms. Identifying the mechanism could open up some interesting possibilities.

Side note, the onset of the effects is 12-24 hours after the ingestion of the raw or undercooked mushrooms. This delayed onset has resulted in the hypothesis that the active compound is actually a prodrug that gets converted into something else that's psychoactive as we metabolize it.

I've been following this story for a while and find it fascinating. Can't wait for Hamilton Morris to do a video on it.

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stein2027 lemmy.world stein2027@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-10-25
#62 · Quote Reply

The trip to Lilliput sounds fun. The return trip through the ER, not so much.

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Vandals_handle lemmy.world Vandals_handle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-14
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's exactly what the Lilliputians want you to think

That's what big Lilliputian wants you to think! Don't be gullible!

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Agent641 lemmy.world Agent641@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#64 · Quote Reply

The difference with them is that they can see us all the time.

Uhh.... All the time? Even when I'm...?

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whyNotSquirrel sh.itjust.works whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-10
#65 · Quote Reply

Is it hallucination or ability?

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whyNotSquirrel sh.itjust.works whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-10
#66 · Quote Reply

How could a chemical agent control the hallucination so specifically? I mean, distorting perception of size makes sense, but tiny colorful people?

is there like local stories about those tiny humans that could influence people mind?

Or again, it doesn't give hallucinations but just the ability to see the tiny people, that's the most logical conclusion!

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notabot piefed.social notabot@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-04
#67 · Quote Reply

Uhh.... All the time? Even when I'm...?

Garak: Especially when you're...

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
#68 · (edited) Quote Reply

I’ve heard DMT described as seeing little cities or a village of workers working away. I wonder if it’s similar.

I'll stop short of saying that everyone who describes DMT that way is a fool (drugs can affect people differently, and I've never taken it orally so maybe I'm missing something), but the "machine elf" stuff is just nonsense. It's just your brain making insane fractal patterns that fold in on themselves and shit. It's pretty cool, but there are no "entities" waiting for you.

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prole lemmy.blahaj.zone prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-06-11
#69 · (edited) Quote Reply

It hasn't been widely available in the west and needs to be rather fresh. Heat destroys this particular effect of the mushroom,for example.

Someone send the weird lanky dude with the vocal fry! (Me pretending that I don't know his name is Hamilton).

He's still alive right?

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Concetta lemmy.blahaj.zone vinceman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-12
#70 · Quote Reply

Apparently the hallucinations appear whether your eyes are open or closed and last for up to a week, sometimes more depending on dosage. And those are from people who ate some that were undercooked, so presumably most of the psychoactive material had been neutralized. It doesn't sound like a pleasant experience.

I mean, that never stopped the good folx on https://www.erowid.org/

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crystalmathadept lemmy.zip crystalmathadept@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-15
#71 · Quote Reply

In the article they mention no specific substance has been isolated. Though, there are now 2 (or 3) varieties of mushroom each from a different location that provide similar hallucinations, so it might be easier to find the substance if it is shared by all the varieties and if there aren't a lot of other chemicals in common. They do know it's not psilocybin or LSD (in these mushrooms).

Well lsd isn’t found in nature, but it is synthesized from ergot, a grain fungus.

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Seth Taylor lemmy.world SethTaylor@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-06
#72 · (edited) Quote Reply

named after the miniature inhabitants of "Gulliver's Travels," who stand just 6 inches tall

Ok, suuuuuper awkward thing to say here but... my penis is precisely one Lilliputian tall, which I understand to be just about average

Also, in Romanian, "puța" means penis

Are there other languages with a similar word for penis? Did Jonathan Swift know this? Was this deliberate? Are the Lilliputians really just "Lil' dicks" ?

EDIT: Has John Oliver already done this? I feel like John Oliver has already done this

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bss03 infosec.pub bss03@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-10-02
#73 · Quote Reply

Well lsd isn’t found in nature, but it is synthesized from ergot, a grain fungus.

Yeah, that's what I thought, but the article keeps referencing it like it would be something we'd be likely to find while sciencing those mushrooms.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#74 · Quote Reply

Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that.

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Fluke feddit.uk Fluke@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-07-01
#75 · Quote Reply

Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that.

IIRC, this one in particular causes the exact same effect no matter the cultural background of the subject, even when the subject is going in blind to the exact effects.

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cb900f_bodhi fedinsfw.app cb900f_bodhi@fedinsfw.app
Joined: 2026-04-09
#76 · Quote Reply

I find this sketchy. There would be reports on erowid or bluelight and there are none. I think this is bs

Hard to believe, yes. But very real. University of Utah published some research on this last year, I am fairly certain. Check it out. Really amazing

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ramenshaman lemmy.world ramenshaman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#77 · Quote Reply

Have you ever smoked salvia extract? That will alter reality

I have not and I'm planning to keep it that way

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#78 · Quote Reply

Did you consider the tiny people are always there? The mushroom just lifts the veil from your consciousness, allowing you to see them.

Yes, Jonas, we considered that.

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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#79 · Quote Reply

What exactly is destroyed by heat? Is there a compound in the mushroom that has been identified?

...since this article was written? Uh, probably not.

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#80 · Quote Reply

Psychedelics are about set and setting. Tell people what they expect to see and they will see that.

Yeah, uh, not so much. I've heard of plenty of mushroom and acid trips that I've never experienced. Would be nice though, I'd love to know what the color Purple sounds like.

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ElChinchilla lemmy.world ElChinchilla@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-14
#81 · Quote Reply

I have not and I'm planning to keep it that way

I don't recommend it unless you are really into/actively exploring psychedelics. My response was directed towards the comment from 11111one11111 specifically. They mentioned trails and lights and figured they may enjoy a few minutes of yarn people and claymation

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ElChinchilla lemmy.world ElChinchilla@lemmy.world
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#82 · Quote Reply

The most intense hallucination I've ever experienced by a wide margin was from salvia, which is legal for some fucking reason. Literally everything I could see and hear wasn't real. I guess I'm glad I did it but I think I'm not going to do it again. Thankfully is only lasts a few minutes. Edit: during my trip, I realized that the entire world was passing by in frames just like a movie and I fel...

Follow up from the other comment. That sounds like a good one! Intense as fuck for sure... I got "rolled up in a carpet" as the world unraveled one time.

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Alenalda lemmy.world Alenalda@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#83 · Quote Reply

Yeah, uh, not so much. I've heard of plenty of mushroom and acid trips that I've never experienced. Would be nice though, I'd love to know what the color Purple sounds like.

I think it hits people differently. I had a acid trip once where it was an out of body experience. I had like daredevil vision at a pink floyd tribute concert. I could see the entire venue from any perspective from where i was standing. Sounds crazy but that was my experience.

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nilloc discuss.tchncs.de nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-22
#84 · Quote Reply

I'll stop short of saying that everyone who describes DMT that way is a fool (drugs can affect people differently, and I've never taken it orally so maybe I'm missing something), but the "machine elf" stuff is just nonsense. It's just your brain making insane fractal patterns that fold in on themselves and shit. It's pretty cool, but there are no "entities" waiting for you.

Yeah that’s pretty much what I assumed too.

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