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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#52 · Quote Reply

So change rule 2? Articles must be relevant to US politics and contain quality and original content. Social Media adjacent hosts like Substack are allowed, but ONLY if they tie back to a company/subsidiary. No personal or friend group blogs and no self-promotion. Articles should be worth reading.

No. Rule 2 is there for a reason.

If we start picking winners and losers among blogs, that's the bias everyone here is bitching about.

The only FAIR policy is no fucking blogs.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#53 · Quote Reply

There are more sites than just "corporate media" that are allowed. We just don't allow sites that have zero editorial control. Any dipshit can start a Substack. That doesn't make it "news".

Right, and "any dipshit" can run a campaign ad for a senate race they're running in, and that doesn't count as "news" because it's in a video format. Have to give our corporate overlords the chance to process everything through their preferred lens, or to just ignore it entirely.

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-27
#54 · Quote Reply

Okay, so you're just admitting you objectively don't care if OP violated the rules of the comm they were posting in and are only here to air unrelated grievances about the mod. They clearly know and follow the rule about posting links to articles only, because every time I see and report a non-article, it's consistently removed shortly thereafter. I'm looking back through the comm's front page,...

Their article meets the definition, as op outlined in the post.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#55 · Quote Reply

Bias would be going "OK, I agree with this substack so I'm going to allow it." That is not what is happening here. The content of the Substack is irrelevant, we don't allow Substack. When we see it, it gets removed. Same for Twitter, same for Youtube. Does stuff get missed? Sure, we have jobs and lives and need to sleep. When it gets brought to our attention? Gone.

You're rules say it's allowed by mod discretion

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#56 · Quote Reply

No. Rule 2 is there for a reason. If we start picking winners and losers among blogs, that's the bias everyone here is bitching about. The only FAIR policy is no fucking blogs.

If we start picking winners and losers among blogs, that's the bias everyone here is bitching about.

Which is what constantly happens yet only you on the team have a hate boner for blogs

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-27
#57 · Quote Reply

PTB. We all know why it's getting removed, the mods want to protect transphobic Dems against legitimate criticism.

I think this is a crusade against substack more than an agenda thing.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#58 · Quote Reply

Right, and "any dipshit" can run a campaign ad for a senate race they're running in, and that doesn't count as "news" because it's in a video format. Have to give our corporate overlords the chance to process everything through their preferred lens, or to just ignore it entirely.

Also can't post links to campaigns as that isn't news, even if it's related or relevant because it's not news on a political comm

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-27
#59 · Quote Reply

Because there's a lot of people on his side politically and who believe in helping the Dems win by any means. I had a lib on here openly tell me that lying to promote a Dem is fine, and even mock me for correcting misinformation. No I’m admitting most people are too ignorant to engage with politics intellectually and it’s the job of those who will to simplify the positions for them. If the othe...

Blue maga

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-04-30
#60 · Quote Reply

I think this is a crusade against substack more than an agenda thing.

At best, it's that the rules of the comm are biased towards corporate sites. Like, "we're not suppressing this story specifically, we're just suppressing anything CNN doesn't talk about and this just happened to get caught in that general policy of non-coporate suppression."

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zarathustrad lemmy.world zarathustrad@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-04
#61 · Quote Reply

People think mods obsessively monitor the feeds, we don't, we have lives. We monitor reports and the mod queue. Thank you for both proving ops point, your bias and how little the rules matter.

Just like real life.

Selective enforcement of ambiguous and arbitrary rules.

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#62 · Quote Reply

If we start picking winners and losers among blogs, that's the bias everyone here is bitching about. Which is what constantly happens yet only you on the team have a hate boner for blogs

No, what constantly happens is bad faith users with multiple bans and modlogs for pages scrabbling to find something to complain about. 😉

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#63 · Quote Reply

You're rules say it's allowed by mod discretion

Yes, and my discretion is no blogs.

Same on World where it says "opinion articles may be removed."

"May" doing some heavy lifting. Not "will", "may".

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#64 · Quote Reply

No, what constantly happens is bad faith users with multiple bans and modlogs for pages scrabbling to find something to complain about. 😉

Ty for continuing to insult people!

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#65 · Quote Reply

Yes, and my discretion is no blogs. Same on World where it says "opinion articles may be removed." "May" doing some heavy lifting. Not "will", "may".

Then say the rule is no not mod discretion

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#66 · Quote Reply

and he's someone who recently was featured on this community.

That would explain a lot

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TRAHR quokk.au TRAHR@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-08-17
#67 · Quote Reply

not familiar enough to judge whether 'blogger' is unfair but in any case she does appear to be a slopmonger as detailed here: https://theneedlenews.com/2026/09/erin-reeds-ai-journalism-career/

The Needle isn’t a great source. And that article has been well known to be AI written.

From the trans discourse I see, everyone has called out The Needle for this attack. The owner has a personal issue with Erin, IIRC it was from being knocked back from an earlier offer to work with her.

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TRAHR quokk.au TRAHR@quokk.au
Joined: 2026-08-17
#68 · Quote Reply

As I've said before, and will continue to say, blog sites, INCLUDING SUBSTACK, are NOT allowed. Just like YouTube, just like Twitter, just like any other form of unvetted social media. Are there serious journalists using those platforms? Sure, but the signal to noise level is too high, so we don't allow ANY of it. Want to get the message out there? Link to a serious news site, not a blog, not a...

Umm

“Articles must be relevant to US politics and contain quality and original content. Social Media adjacent hosts like Substack areallowed, but ONLY if they tie back to a company/subsidiary”

Sites like SubStack are explicitly allowed?

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TheTechnician27 lemmy.world TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-25
#69 · (edited) Quote Reply

and he's someone who recently was featured on this community.

and he’s someone who recently was featured on this community.

I like how you very conspicuously leave out how I was "featured on this community", because that would make your flimsy character attack completely fall apart.

Here's the thread I was "recently featured" in. Sitting at -8 upvotes, and the OP makes a clown out of themselves the entire thread as they get hit with overwhelming "YDI".

I think your main problem you have with me is that you're an anti-vegan, anti-environmentalist, anti-science, bad-faith troll who doesn't like that I moderate a space for vegans where you're not allowed to just come in and Gish gallop to try to discredit peer-reviewed environmental science. (Note: I have this thread saved after the last time explicitly because they love to show up and give the same canned disinformation to respond to this particular study, so I keep it now as a canned response.)

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calmblue75 lemmy.ml calmblue75@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-10-06
#70 · (edited) Quote Reply

The reason clearly states that substack links are allowed, but personal/friend group blogs are not allowed. This person is a journalist; Journalists can have their own blogs, doesn't make them less credible.

PTB.

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commie lemmy.dbzer0.com commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-05
#71 · Quote Reply

and he’s someone who recently was featured on this community. I like how you very conspicuously leave out how I was "featured on this community", because that would make your flimsy character attack completely fall apart. Here's the thread I was "recently featured" in. Sitting at -8 upvotes, and the OP makes a clown out of themselves the entire thread as they get hit with overwhelming "YDI". I ...

I'm neither antivegan nor antievironmentalist. calling me a troll doesn't change the facts

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commie lemmy.dbzer0.com commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-05
#72 · Quote Reply

and he’s someone who recently was featured on this community. I like how you very conspicuously leave out how I was "featured on this community", because that would make your flimsy character attack completely fall apart. Here's the thread I was "recently featured" in. Sitting at -8 upvotes, and the OP makes a clown out of themselves the entire thread as they get hit with overwhelming "YDI". I ...

god I love that you keep showing this link to people

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

The fact that you're on, what? Your THIRD account because you keep catching bans tells you everything you need to know. 😉 https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=4870622 https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=23881363

Zionazi TERF says what?

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TheTechnician27 lemmy.world TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-25
#74 · Quote Reply

god I love that you keep showing this link to people

For as much as you love this uniquely annoying, disruptive pattern of replying to the same comment via multiple comments, it's funny that one of them wasn't mentioning the elephant in the room.

Namely that the thread you were talking about, deliberately taking completely out of context, and consicuously not linking to is about as clear-cut a "YDI" response as one usually seems to get on YPTB – with the OP spending the entire thread being so insufferable that everyone understands why they deserved it.

I'm glad you like me sharing the link, because apparently unlike you, I like sharing links to provide context for what I'm talking about.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#75 · Quote Reply

Umm “Articles must be relevant to US politics and contain quality and original content. Social Media adjacent hosts like Substack areallowed, but ONLY if they tie back to a company/subsidiary” Sites like SubStack are explicitly allowed?

No he clarified it's just there so he can say no

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/28841746

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commie lemmy.dbzer0.com commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-05
#76 · (edited) Quote Reply

For as much as you love this uniquely annoying, disruptive pattern of replying to the same comment via multiple comments, it's funny that one of them wasn't mentioning the elephant in the room. Namely that the thread you were talking about, deliberately taking completely out of context, and consicuously not linking to is about as clear-cut a "YDI" response as one usually seems to get on YPTB – ...

your insinuation that I deliberately withheld information is wrong. I just didn't want to spend any more time on it. you haven't provided such a link either. are you deliberately misrepresenting the post and hiding the truth??

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TheTechnician27 lemmy.world TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-25
#77 · Quote Reply

your insinuation that I deliberately withheld information is wrong. I just didn't want to spend any more time on it. you haven't provided such a link either. are you deliberately misrepresenting the post and hiding the truth??

are you deliberately misrepresenting the post and hiding the truth??

Sorry, did you miss the part where I said, verbatim: "Here's the thread I was "recently featured" in." Or is this more of your Trumpian "never play defense" pathological lying where you assume that if you just double down forever, you can't ever be wrong?

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commie lemmy.dbzer0.com commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-05
#78 · Quote Reply

are you deliberately misrepresenting the post and hiding the truth?? Sorry, did you miss the part where I said, verbatim: "Here's the thread I was "recently featured" in." Or is this more of your Trumpian "never play defense" pathological lying where you assume that if you just double down forever, you can't ever be wrong?

did you miss the part where I said, verbatim: “Here’s the thread I was “recently featured” in.”

yes

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starelfsc2 sh.itjust.works starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-02
#79 · Quote Reply

These comments are abysmal. The rule is no substacks unless it is part of a larger organization's story. You can disagree with the rule and talk about why it should be changed but applying a stated rule is not PTB.

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TheTechnician27 lemmy.world TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-25
#80 · Quote Reply

did you miss the part where I said, verbatim: “Here’s the thread I was “recently featured” in.” yes

Okay, honestly fair. Absolute respect for that. I made a worse oversight the other day and attacked someone who was doing nothing wrong because of it.

I'm cool with just stopping this argument here for right now.

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boonhet lemmy.zip boonhet@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-12
#81 · Quote Reply

The fact that you're on, what? Your THIRD account because you keep catching bans tells you everything you need to know. 😉 https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=4870622 https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=23881363

Mate you also ban people from half the communities of lemmy.world if they dare criticise genocide or upset you in any other way. It's not a surprise lots of people get a ton of bans lmao

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#82 · Quote Reply

Zionazi TERF says what?

Is TIRF a thing? More my speed... Zionazi? LOL... Banning the folks arguing "Palestine isn't a country" makes me a Zionist? LOL.

Tell me you don't know anything about me without telling me you don't know anything about me.

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#83 · Quote Reply

Ty for continuing to insult people!

Ty for continuing to be worthy of insulting! 😉

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#84 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is TIRF a thing? More my speed... Zionazi? LOL... Banning the folks arguing "Palestine isn't a country" makes me a Zionist? LOL. Tell me you don't know anything about me without telling me you don't know anything about me.

Modlog shows that you're lying, and I know all I need to know about you. You're a liar, and should be stripped of all mod privileges.

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#85 · Quote Reply

Also can't post links to campaigns as that isn't news, even if it's related or relevant because it's not news on a political comm

Correct. A campaign is not news, a poll is not news, YouTube videos are not news, Tweets aren't news.

You're super close to getting it.

A news article about a shitty campaign IS news and is welcome.

Here's an example of what that looks like:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6z981l59wnwo

Now, someone wants to link to Ramaswamy's campaign? Oh, hell no.

Link to the specific ad in question with no journalistic context? Fuck right off with that.

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jordanlund lemmy.world jordanlund@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-30
#86 · Quote Reply

Modlog shows that you're lying, and I know all I need to know about you. You're a liar, and should be stripped of all mod privileges.

LOL - Says AngryCommieKender:

https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=1583452

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#87 · Quote Reply

The fact that Jordan is STILL a moderator on lemmy.world tells you everything you need to know about lemmy.world. This shit is pathetic. https://lemmy.ca/post/61836381

Well at least it only took them what 2hrs to start insulting users again. I'd post in lemmy.world support but they'd probably give him a medal or remove something else meaningless as a way to appear doing something

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#88 · Quote Reply

The reason clearly states that substack links are allowed, but personal/friend group blogs are not allowed. This person is a journalist; Journalists can have their own blogs, doesn't make them less credible. PTB.

The rules either need to be redone because they are either overly complicated or intentionally convoluted to have this precise ability.

Idk what's funnier people okay with this or the mod in this threads behavior

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commie lemmy.dbzer0.com commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-05
#89 · Quote Reply

glad I'm not the only one who sees it.

disengage

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Unruffled [they/them] lemmy.dbzer0.com Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-20
#90 · Quote Reply

I think the thing I despise about lemmy.world beyond Jordan and his toxic beliefs is this obsession with rules as if that negates the incredible amount of bias inherent to how the mods behave on world and politics. They hide behind their rules as if it makes their moderation nonbiased which I find so stupid it is difficult to keep my head from exploding when I think about it.

Omg i thought it was just me. He crows so confidently about the rules as though they were laid down by God Herself, and are therefore inviolable.

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Unruffled [they/them] lemmy.dbzer0.com Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-20
#91 · Quote Reply

As I've said before, and will continue to say, blog sites, INCLUDING SUBSTACK, are NOT allowed. Just like YouTube, just like Twitter, just like any other form of unvetted social media. Are there serious journalists using those platforms? Sure, but the signal to noise level is too high, so we don't allow ANY of it. Want to get the message out there? Link to a serious news site, not a blog, not a...

Maybe listen to your community for once?

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WoodScientist lemmy.world WoodScientist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-06
#92 · Quote Reply

What the hell kind of question is that? Why do you think a question like that can be answered with a rule perfectly? Do you understand how toxic and flawed of a view that is of things that cannot be decided by black and white rules?

At a very minimum allow posts from people who are clearly journalists. Erin Reed is the leading trans rights journalist in the country. She publishes on substack because most major papers censor trans stories.

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WoodScientist lemmy.world WoodScientist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-06
#93 · Quote Reply

As I've said before, and will continue to say, blog sites, INCLUDING SUBSTACK, are NOT allowed. Just like YouTube, just like Twitter, just like any other form of unvetted social media. Are there serious journalists using those platforms? Sure, but the signal to noise level is too high, so we don't allow ANY of it. Want to get the message out there? Link to a serious news site, not a blog, not a...

"The signal to noise is too high. Therefore, I will ignore a clear signal, even if it's completely unambiguous as a clear signal."

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ElcaineVolta kbin.melroy.org ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2024-06-27
#94 · Quote Reply

I'm neither antivegan nor antievironmentalist. calling me a troll doesn't change the facts

glad I'm not the only one who sees it.

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ElcaineVolta kbin.melroy.org ElcaineVolta@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2024-06-27
#95 · Quote Reply

disengage

feel free to block me to remove me from your Lemmy experience.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#96 · Quote Reply

Omg i thought it was just me. He crows so confidently about the rules as though they were laid down by God Herself, and are therefore inviolable.

He does that while also either not knowing them or fully aware they're making them up. See him in this very thread

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supersquirrel lemmy.ca supersquirrel@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-08-07
#97 · Quote Reply

The rules either need to be redone because they are either overly complicated or intentionally convoluted to have this precise ability. Idk what's funnier people okay with this or the mod in this threads behavior

intentionally convoluted to have this precise ability.

DING DING DING DING

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supersquirrel lemmy.ca supersquirrel@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-08-07
#98 · (edited) Quote Reply

The fact that you're on, what? Your THIRD account because you keep catching bans tells you everything you need to know. 😉 https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=4870622 https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=23881363

Jordan you are such a hateful loser it is difficult to comprehend how you are even real.

You make the Fediverse a worse place with your presence Jordan.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#99 · Quote Reply

intentionally convoluted to have this precise ability. DING DING DING DING

look you just need to read the rules. They are black and white depending on the mod looking at them

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