have you ever wondered why no one can provide the services Valve does for cheaper than Valve does? Is it because of their famously anticompetitive practices, their notorious lobbying and threats to politicians, their strong-arm manipulation of vendors against each other? Perhaps they have some other method of defeating market forces?

Meanwhile you ran it on Windows. So obviously you didn't really care about being manipulated and fucked up the ass dry.

The real crime is that Valve requires price parity when you independently (no Steam keys) sell your game on a different store, as well as the Steam store.

They don't. Only if you are selling steam keys do they require price parity and only for steam key sales. You cannot sell a Steam key for less than you sell your game on Steam for. You can sell a non-Steam game key on other store fronts for any price you want.

This is what is being alleged in court by only a handful of developers but there are countless examples of the exact opposite thing being true.

Good grief, Tim Sweeney is such an insufferable cunt.

which just proves the overhead is reasoable

also pretty sure there are programs for true indie devs to reduce that price

all the actual good games on steam seem to do fine

i want anyone saying their game isn’t getting a fair shake on steam to post it

if it’s actually not trash i’ll buy it

First mover advantage is the biggest reason.

But they've been able to maintain it just by not being shitty.

I am running pi-hole. Seems strange that an archive site would be blocked.

Man if I were Steam's PR guy I would nor resist making fun of Sweeney all day long.

If you want to kiss valves' ass, be my guest. A company with 300 or so employees making a 3-4 billion profit last year is the same as Uber. Everyone's just a contractor and should be happy they use the platform. I'm not arguing if walmart or amazon is better. They both suck and they're stores. Valve has a nice history of suck as well as all the rest, everyone turns a blind eye to this. So I'm not going to pretend they're the good guys.

They don't have to, Valve can do nothing and Sweeney keeps making himself look like a whiny idiot.

Stop literally taking my money by making me work hard on my project.

What a mega loser....

IDK why, he has plenty of money lol

It's too bad, I really like his early work. Jill of the Jungle, Epic Pinball, Jazz the Jackrabbit, Tyrian, all the Unreal Tournament games, Unreal Engine 1/2/3

I've heard some things about some of these archive sites using visitor connections to carry out DDoS attacks. Couldn't find anything with a quick search, but it's the reason some threadiverse instances ban links to these sites outright.

Having too much money insulates you from having to find out

Greed

They must've changed their tone recently, because I've read an actual leaked court document, and the Valve representative / employee states (very defensively) that this is what they did. There's accounts of developers confirming this as well, including apparently in the (secret?) contract you sign when you sign up as a developer with Steam.

Classic Valve strategy:
Do nothing
Win.
Profit.
GabeN buys new megayatch

You might even say he's an epic loser...

30% used to be the standard, all consoles took 30%, Apple and Google took 30%, and all the PC game storefronts did. Sweeney doesn't give a shit about saving anyone money but himself. He's been on a decade long crusade to avoid paying these fees and will say whatever he can to make them go away or get lower.

I remember... they killed WON.

Tim, you're just dumb. You think people don't see right through your business-brain bullshit, and it makes you look even dumber. Sit down and shut up.

If you ever somehow falter, and believe that you should listen to this man... Remember that he went on the record very recently saying that if a game is to be successful, it must launch on their competitor's platform, Steam.

And his fear of inadequacy, of course.

A lot of us don't hate AI.

FWIW, "a lot of us" also don't hate the oligarchs & their sycophants enough, either. I'm betting that Venn is a circle.

You're mistaking him for the goodest boy. ☝🏼

Link the leaked court document.

But easy to get around by discounting it for less than the listed price. Isthereanydeals and gg.deals is a great source for historical price trends across multiple storefronts from official to approved key selling stores.

You say it like it is bad, but isn't it actually a good thing that a company chooses the profitable route over an unsustainable model that requires infinite growth and leads to constant employee turnover?

Practice of running companies at a loss and only being kept afloat because of VC money seems to make everything worse. Company that is losing money while those at top rakes money seems to be what makes competitors harder as it requires huge outside capital to survive long enough for over a decade losing money.

Can't wait for all those people whose entire argument is "Oh yeah well Steam takes a 30% cut" to add this to their arsenal.

The only two storefronts that don't charge 30% base cut are EGS and Microsoft Store.

Most people that go into making games don't go into it for profit. Do you think my friend went to make a Halo game because it was to make money or because it was fun to have a lan party?

I hate most things people would call 'AI' for a variety of reasons. Hiding its usage in something just means I'm not going to trust your platform at all, not suddenly stop caring about the issue. It's a problem steam has as well with not properly enforcing meaningful disclosure or a vetting process. Hell, the recent event didn't even have a filter for AI so I spent no money on steam, either.

Tyrian and UT:GOTY were two of the greatest games to come out of the 90's.

Instead of whining like a loser, why isn’t this guy trying to assassinate Gabe via various comical means to trigger whatever “Ready Player One” succession bullshit he has left in place to decide who is worthy to take stewardship of Steam?

Do you think my friend went to make a Halo game because it was to make money or because it was fun to have a lan party?

Do you think Bungie initially developed Halo for fun, or to make money?

https://techcrunch.com/2026/02/21/wikipedia-blacklists-archive-today-after-alleged-ddos-attack/

Out of touch cunt with no pulse on what gamers want whines. More at 7. Fuck off.

Honestly to fulfill the dream of making video games. It's kind of how blizzard didn't have requirements of a college degree, instead a portfolio.

Fuck off with your slop, Sweeney.

People are complicated. The same dummy who likes AI too much is also a very important developer and pretty big conservationist.

Is he only capable of saying the dumbest possible shit?

The idea of hating AI is weird because they don't give a fuck and can have it their way with an "oopsie". Now we have their social warriors.

I'm talking about you bringing up Uber as a positive example of a way to run a business. I don't think you know what you are talking about if you are using Uber to defend your position. Because Uber is one of the worst examples of a good company.

That you think it is some indie passion project is very questionable when it comes to the grasp of companies and how terrible they can be for customers and employees. Unsustainable mass corporations like Uber is what is leading to bunch of borrowed money flowing around and inflating the stock market while those at top get rich, get government subsidies, and firing their employees with all they care about being projected valuation.

"Ask ai"

And you are accusing others of sounding like a dumbass?

Epic Pinball was made by the founder of Digital Extremes. He and the team he built there did a ton of Unreal through UT2003. UT2004 was the end of the partnership, with Epic handling the new design work and Digital Extremes being relegated to art, UI, and a few maps.

Sweeney Slop, The Demented Dev of Epic

I think that was misinterpreted. Uber is absolute trash of a company.

I know what it's like to be a contractor. All work and none of the benefits.

I was trying to bring up the mess 343 was without saying it. Hundreds of "contractors" got laid off on release. There was a whole lot of tom-fuckery around that game. Microslop didn't want to give a few hundred people a crumb of the pie.

A lot of companies enjoy the dancing monkey in a top hat. So we're on the same page, sorry auto correct messes up what I write sometimes.