I don't know many.

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Clocked that less than halfway through the comment, well before looking at the username. Crazy how easy it is to find these types of people. Blocked!

Nooo my voterino!!! Vote blue no matter who!!!

*minutes pass*

makes fun of the death of a teenager

Yeah, that tracks for you lot.

Something about these people makes me want to fucking, just, I can't say what I want to do.

I remember 2 years ago when I was speaking up about Palestine that the same fucking types of liberals were talking about how they'd love to hear about people like us getting raped to death in a male prison because we supported the conservatives (aka. criticized the liberal policy of genocide). I remember it. Someone said it to my fucking face. They're snakes, literal vipers. They just pretend to be allies. Fuck their votes. They're actually just snakes, like if they believed it was the lesser evil they wouldn't be posting blue hearts everywhere. They just switch up their mask and act all pained about the situation to fucking manipulate us. It fucking sickens me, they don't give a shit, I'm pretty sure they actually like that trans people feel forced to support liberals out of fear.

The lesser evil is becoming greater each time they use this tactic. Palestine, immigrants, now trans people, but we gotta still support Democrats, I guess, because they're killing us slower than the Republicans.

You sily billy, you don't understand the trolley problem. If you don't support the party that kills 15% less people then you're responsible for killing those extra people! All we can do is pull the lever, there is no other option. You've just gotta lie down on the lesser evil track and take one for the team to delay fascism.

This message brought to you by the cowardly amoral ghouls who actually get off on the genocide and use the brunch crowd as cover.

Genuine question: How would this be better? Isn't the choice essentially choosing a larger evil to prevent a smaller evil, and all the consequences that brings, in hopes that the options will somehow be different in the future?

What about the people suffering in the meanwhile who wouldn't have been otherwise? What if it results in further voter suppression so that an ally candidate has a much harder time actually getting elected?

I genuinely understand that it absolutely sucks when the options are awful or even worse, we should demand more from our representatives and we should do everything we can to remove those who refuse to represent all of their constituency, but I can't see how letting the worse option win is better.

Because it normalizes our oppression as a constant reality supported by all sides, like how it is in the UK. It's defeatist, because it's basically conceding that trans rights aren't politically viable and all we can choose between are different degrees of subhuman treatment.

You shouldn't rely on the US government for your rights in general. We need to oppose the state by building our own power to prevent both parties from being able to fuck us over.

Your solution only prevents a larger evil short-term and ignores the long-term consequences of further pushing the Overton window to the right.

If I were made to choose in an election where neither party supported my rights (beyond simply trans athlete bans; I mean real anti-trans policy that effects everyday trans people), I would take that as having no representation in that system and I wouldn't vote.

A lot of cis people love jumping in and telling us what we should think in this situation. Consider how cheap words are in this situation and what it means to sacrifice others for your own benefit, and maybe think twice before taking the moral high ground.

Kim, there's people that are dying.

makes fun of the death of a teenager

i couldn't make heads or tails of their comment, is that what was going on? now i'm not sure if i want dig around for more details or remain in the dark for the sake of my own mental health :/

They think that LGBT people are either captive or disposable.

"Who cares what I say, those rubes will vote for me anyway because I want them to suffer in a more polite way!"

Honestly no idea whatbthe 900k part is, probably something messef up but...

These are very reasonable concerns to have. It's true that advocating against the Dems for this term may correlate with (not cause) more immediate suffering for vulnerable groups whose wellbeing the Party has been holding hostage for the better part of three decades now.

The problem with liberalism, and particularly neoliberalism in this case, is that it very effectively assimilates, appropriates, and disarms dissenting politicial or social justice movements through attritional tractics like marginal concessions aimed toward longterm erosion. Liberal institutions like the US Democratic Party succeed with those tactics because attrition is most favourable to the party with the most resources, and with a substanital amount of power over the US state they have, they naturally have access to immense resources.

On the other hand, we do not. Few trans people are in positions of power, our population is small, and most of our value to something like the Democratic Party is performative righteousness that comforts privileged liberal voters. The current moment of trans genocide and racial inequity in the US is very much a consequence of liberalism's appropriation and subsequent disarmament of these respective social justice movements. These people are not our friends, and they clearly believe that they have exhausted our resources enough to more aggressively target us as they were always bound to.

Bot = anything I disagree with.

This is how the internet is. Those who engage in namecalling are rarely doing so with a factual basis.

Like actually relieving to read. I need to stop reacting, like I was calm about this kind of stuff once, now my responses are degenerating into thinking the average working class people who support liberals are the living embodiment of the ghoul politicians.

Free Palestine

I honestly don't think it's unfair to react that way, and I don't think we can reasonably ask members of vulnerable groups to respond with patience when respectability is so obviously not relevant to the people who wish us harm -- even if just passively. As patient as I may be here, I have this outlook not out of sympathy for the groups that support the Democratic Party, but due to the practicality in empathizing with other subjects of this oppressive system in order to discern between active and passive threats.

Apathy is the engine of liberal oppression, which is why privileged groups like middle-class working people can be placated by so little when their own way of life is both precarious and compartmentalized from the violence this system requires to exist. Liberals use social justice rhetoric the same way they used labor and suffrage rhetoric; it works because most people are indeed uncomfortable with human suffering, but do not have the perspective or political literacy to understand when that suffering is arbitrary or what is actually required to end that suffering. I don't think it is unreasonable to be frustrated or angry at people who do not develop that understanding at a point in time where so much information is literally at their fingertips, and I couldn't in good conscience say that I don't habour a deep resentment for people who can't be bothered to try. Of course, I extend more sympathy to factory workers who work 50+ hour swing-shifts while raising children than I do white-collar suburbanites who feel entitled to define morality around the profitability of their rental properties.

Another form of violence inflicted on vulnerable groups is the expectation of respectability or candor as they defend themselves, as though that is required by anyone who argues that their privilege should exist. If you feel uncomfortable with that anger, that's also completely valid since, again, most people don't like hating others. It does feel gross, even when it's warranted.

wait what?? I wasn't trying to quote a dogwhistle, just riffing on "selling a beach house in Idaho" cause I figured noone had read what I said anyway

what I meant was that if someone believed "if I have problems with the political climate, I should roll over and give up", then they're probably out of touch with reality enough to be willing to buy oceanfront property in a state with no connection to the ocean.

I respect trans people, and am willing and ready to fight for trans rights, but doing nothing on voting day is almost as bad as voting for the fascists.

ig be careful about the things you say?