Those are the same people that eat fast food. Who is really eating ultra processed foods?

Picked up sonme impossible dogs, because hot dogs have a low ceiling. It was good enough for me!

I usually go meatless as opposed to meat substitutes, but it was fun to try these out.

The only reason I'm wary of any vegan meat is because I have a terrible soy intolerance. Almost all the stuff at my local grocery store that's 'meatless' is soy based. For a while they carried a brand that was pea protein based, and it was delicious. Sadly, that brand is not in stock anymore.

I ate a heavy soy based diet for years and it left me with a soy food allergy because of the soy processing.

It may not be in your local grocery store but try seitan. You can make it from vital wheat gluten or even just from wheat flour, if you're willing to use some elbow grease.

Tons of people? I don't see why not give them an easy entry point to go vegan. They're already used to hyper palatable foods, providing an alternative that's hyper palatable as well is better than not.

There's also Meati (Mushroom), Jack & Annie's (Jackfruit), and Quorn (Mushroom), which are all fantastic.

Phrased what I said earlier really horribly. I'm not against vegan meat at all I think they are a really good idea!

Every day I'm eating a cup full of seed oil slop. I'm all for these alternate products like bean or lentil patties but I'd rather make them myself and save money and use olive oil only.

I love the vegan croquettes I buy at the supermarket, even though they might be ultra-processed and I'm not vegan.

what do you mean by soy processing?

I'm not afraid of it, just mostly had bad experiences with it.

Fr. I worked at whole foods. I tried it all. Shit is not good.

It's still expensive junk food. I'll eat all that shit, don't get me wrong, but it has to be a sometimes food.

Last time I looked Quorn mince has egg in it, so be careful with their products.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seed_oil_misinformation

I always wondered why it made me feel ill and it's because it's overused. I actively cut down how much I eat because it's gross anyway. Try eating a mars bar or similar when it's 10% oil. Revolting!

Like, meat from vegans?

IMHO that's an issue of eating too much fat in general, not seed oil in particular.

Nah I don't eat much fat I'm pretty thin but as soon as I eat a kit kat that's filled with oil and sugar I instantly feel ill.

What makes so confident that it's caused by unhealthy seed oils? There are numerous other ingredients that may cause that, you might have an intolerance/allergy etc. Geneally speaking, olive oil is not healthier than canola. And seed oils are not unhealthy. Especially not if you compare them to animal-based fats.

People have used olive oil for thousands of years, while other people cooked food in water with simple sauces or with clarified butter. There's no reason for this seed oil crap, it's just another filler ingredient that causes inferior taste.

People have smoked for thousands of years but it's still not good for you.

That said, I prefer nut oils. Walnut is high in omega 3s!

So they did with seed oil.

Sunflowers for example are used for oil production for 5000 years (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunflower_oil).

Canola / rapeseed for 4000 years (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapeseed_oil).

That whole story of 'seed oil is bad' is nothing but misinformation.

Not every seed oil is equally healthy.
Not every single human will like the taste of every seed oil.
Some people may even be allergic or intolerant towards a certain ingredient.

But this all applies to all kinds of fats and basically all kind of food in general.

If you don't like it, that's fine. But there's nothing bad about seed oils in particular.

Ah, you're right, they're only vegetarian unfortunately, not vegan.

I like the impossible dogs. My only issue with them is that they don't hold together well. The taste and texture are otherwise on point. I've tried other vegan hot dogs and they were absolutely vile.

I also really like the impossible chicken nuggets, though I think fake chicken is something that's already been done well before.

I threw them in my cast iron at high heat and rolled them around. Maybe the sear helped

I've heard a few times already that they're terrible in the US and pretty good in the EU, so that might be why you're seeing such a discrepancy...

Could be, I remember a guy working the pizza area messed up and put the beyond chicken on the bbq chicken pizza back when beyond meat was a brand new thing. I had to return it. I didn't know it was beyond chicken, but I thought it had gone bad or something because it was so gross. We also had a seitan vendor come in and try to sell wheat meat... Gross. A number of sausages, hot dogs, etc. gross. I am a meat eater, but I have an open mind and will try anything. I personally believe if you want to go vegetarian or vegan, you can just do that. No need to eat ultra processed food that looks kinda like meat and tastes horrible. I will say, one of the fake chorizos was somewhat tolerable.