Link: https://www.commondreams.org/news/kamala-harris-gaza-2024

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I too wish Biden’s/Harris’ support for Gaza was stronger, and less nuanced to the reality of American politics.

But goddamn does some blame have to be levied on the voters who chose abstinence or even voting for the candidate who had full throated support of Palestine because of Bidens/Harris’ stance.

What nuance? We know she knows which side her bread is buttered on.

Given the choices, a presumptive link is preferred to a concrete one.

Has she spoken out against the genocide? Even now that she isn't running for president?

E.g.:
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/israeli-soldiers-tel-sultan-gaza-red-crescent-civil-defense-massacre-report-forensic-architecture-earshot

Are you making the point that we should disagree and debate during the primary?

We can and should be angry there wasn’t a primary in 2024. And we can and should debate this and hold candidates accountable in the 2028 primary.

My point here is just, given the circumstances in 2024, anyone who did not vote on principle citing this reason did greater harm to the cause than voting for Harris would have.

I’m a proud democrat, but democrats and leftists seem to be playing a different game than politicians of all parties. Republican voters are playing the same game, which is why they’re in power.

Republicans are in power (now) because people protest-voted. We protest vote against the incumbent. We protest-voted against Bush/McCain. We protest-voted against Obama/Hilary. We protest-voted against Donald. We protest-voted against Biden/Harris. We will protest-vote against Vance/Noem.

We protest-vote because neither party serves the people. They serve the billionaires. And aside from violent revolution, the only way to express our disdain is to vote the current bums out.

https://www.forwardky.com/poll-voters-love-progressive-policies-despite-trump-win-tag-analysis/:

according to a new study from Navigator Research, a majority of 2024 voters said they agreed with more progressive positions on the economy and health care, not conservative ones

People want progress. Why won't liberal Democrats adopt any progressive planks in their platform? Do they want to lose? I'd say yes, they'd rather lose than upset the billionaire donors — their real constituents.

Democracy is crumbling and Gaza is burning. Good job, I guess.

Let me be clear — THIS IS ON YOU. Liberal Democrats who make lame excuses for tacking to the center. PEOPLE DON'T LIKE CENTRISTS. Even when Democrats manage to eke out a victory, they squander it on hypercapitalist garbage like Heritagecare Romneycare Obamacare. Or NAFTA. Or welfare "reform." Or the Biden Crime Bill. Or repealing Glass-Steagall.

The idea that Kamala would have done a single thing different on Gaza is absurd, since she's captured by the same lobbyists as Republicans. She just would have done a better job of selling it to mushy liberals. Extra laughable since AFTER the Gaza genocide we have this from the leader of the democrats: “Schumer Claims ‘Job’ Is to ‘Fight for Aid to Israel’”

Progressives don't owe corpo liberal Dems their votes. You need to earn them. "Uhh, we're merely greedy instead of sadistic" isn't the rallying cry you think it is.

And Hillary's "vote for me or you're a misogynist" didn't pan out very well when campaiging against a gross misogynist pedophile. Time to try something different. And I don’t mean getting Dick Cheney’s endorsement.

Hard to make the “it’s on you” arguement when you proclaimed proudly your protest vote.

And yes, any democrat in office would absolutely clear the rock bottom bar of thus administration. You’re fucking off your rocker if you think otherwise.

“We” means the country, you muppet. I voted for Harris like an absolute moron.

PICK BETTER NOMINEES IF YOU WANT TO WIN.

My opinion is that the Democrats need to lose until they change so you know whatever

The women dying by ectopic pregnancies and the Palestinians who’ve died to make room for Jewish settlers and beach resorts appreciate your principled stand.

I mean. Were the Democrats going to fix those things?

Abortion as healthcare undoubtedly. And a long way from ideal, but Gaza wouldn’t be completely in Israel’s hand. So yes, a hell of a lot better in both cases.

I don't know what to say to you. Maybe look into how they actually govern?