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elephantium lemmy.world elephantium@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#52 · Quote Reply

I shared this with my wife. She said "It sounds like pangolin programming."

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-10
#53 · Quote Reply

Yeah, I will never say please to an algorithm.

Maybe if we get true AI like Star Treks Data, but until then, STFU and do what I tell you

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Asfalttikyntaja sopuli.xyz Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-02-15
#54 · Quote Reply

Yeah, I will never say please to an algorithm. Maybe if we get true AI like Star Treks Data, but until then, STFU and do what I tell you

Are you trying to tell us that you renamed “sudo” as “STFU”?

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andallthat lemmy.world andallthat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#55 · Quote Reply

I was surprised to find that my distro (CachyOS) already has this alias

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juipeltje lemmy.world juipeltje@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#56 · Quote Reply

No, OP is correct, && only continues on exit 0. || For anything but zero, ; just chains another command.

Ah yes you're right, had to look it up to see for myself. It's weird because i remember specifically changing some of my &&s for ; instead because i wanted it to not continue if exit wasn't zero, but i must've misread it at the time. Time to change it back i guess lol.

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sunbytes lemmy.world sunbytes@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#57 · Quote Reply

For me, it's "pwease" because I like that sub relationship.

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ViatorOmnium piefed.social ViatorOmnium@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-11
#58 · (edited) Quote Reply

What I don't get is why deny the execution of a command because the lack of sudo instead of just notice that it needs elevated privilege and ask for password

Besides what Ephera@lemmy.ml said, you would also need to handle the escalation at every place you might have a permission related error. Unless your command alwaysneeds to run as root, so you can check once in the beginning, it would be cumbersome and error prone.

Also, sometimes in multi users environments, you might want to execute as 3rd user, not root or your own, if something fails.

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CXORA aussie.zone CXORA@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-03-08
#59 · Quote Reply

The hyper-cynical side of me is sure this is written by someone prepping their next LLM exploit. "How can I get around these security filters that won't let me include 'sudo' in my command injection...?"

Is there anything in these agents that blocks sudo? I don't think this would be necessary.

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CallMeMrFlipper lemmy.world CallMeMrFlipper@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-12
#60 · Quote Reply

The hyper-cynical side of me is sure this is written by someone prepping their next LLM exploit. "How can I get around these security filters that won't let me include 'sudo' in my command injection...?"

This is something I've been doing since before AI, so it's not that... but yeah.

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texture lemmy.world texture@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-19
#61 · Quote Reply

oh hell yeah this is the exact level of goofyness i need right now.

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JackbyDev programming.dev JackbyDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-13
#62 · Quote Reply

gooby pls

I'll fuckin' do it again, ayuck!

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JackbyDev programming.dev JackbyDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-13
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

alias srsly="sudo !!"

Does that expand properly? My gut feeling is that the !! expands right away, not when you run srsly but when you define it.

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JackbyDev programming.dev JackbyDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-13
#64 · Quote Reply

Ah yes you're right, had to look it up to see for myself. It's weird because i remember specifically changing some of my &&s for ; instead because i wanted it to not continue if exit wasn't zero, but i must've misread it at the time. Time to change it back i guess lol.

It makes more sense if you think of semicolons like other programming languages like Java and C use it.

foo();
bar();

But those languages allow foo(); bar(); as well. Then && works like a normal short circuited expression (with side effects).

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trackball_fetish lemmy.wtf trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2026-02-20
#65 · Quote Reply

you can always become the woman in tech
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Bababasti feddit.org Bababasti@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-03-30
#66 · Quote Reply

Nah. Fuck being polite to computers. It's an object and I own it. I'll shoot it the instant it expresses any level of personhood.

True, but it can be a good training to be a nice person in general, no? Wouldn’t hurt to include a "please" and the likes once in a while

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Alaknár sopuli.xyz Alaknar@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-29
#67 · Quote Reply

I was surprised to find that my distro (CachyOS) already has this alias

I always preferred the version where please="sudo !!", but I recently tried setting it up and couldn't get it to work on fish, sadly.

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KorYi lemmy.ml KorYi@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-07
#68 · Quote Reply

I always preferred the version where please="sudo !!", but I recently tried setting it up and couldn't get it to work on fish, sadly.

I remember setting this up with zsh and it didn't work either. IIRC I had to use history to access the last command but it failed in some cases so I stopped using it altogether )=

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endless_nameless lemmy.world endless_nameless@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-15
#69 · Quote Reply

True, but it can be a good training to be a nice person in general, no? Wouldn’t hurt to include a "please" and the likes once in a while

I don't say please and thank you to any inanimate objects whatsoever and if I were to begin doing so (which I will never do) computers would be the very last to receive that treatment from me. Personifying computers is not practice for how to treat people. Fuck clankers

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foxxie_911 lemmy.zip foxxie_911@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-11-03
#70 · Quote Reply

please rm - rf 🙏

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Grail multiverse.soulism.net Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
Joined: 2026-01-14
#71 · Quote Reply

I don't say please and thank you to any inanimate objects whatsoever and if I were to begin doing so (which I will never do) computers would be the very last to receive that treatment from me. Personifying computers is not practice for how to treat people. Fuck clankers

My pet shark thanks its toaster

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FalschgeldFurkan lemmy.world FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-09
#72 · Quote Reply

Yeah, I will never say please to an algorithm. Maybe if we get true AI like Star Treks Data, but until then, STFU and do what I tell you

Linux isn't an algorithm though

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#73 · Quote Reply

Just aliased it to "Computer," so it feels more like Star Trek

will probably continue typing sudo tho

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funkajunk 🇨🇦 lemmy.world funkajunk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-08
#74 · Quote Reply

I'll fuckin' do it again, ayuck!

Elite Pink Guy reference

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alecsargent lemmy.zip alecsargent@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-13
#75 · Quote Reply

please touch me

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bold_omi lemmy.today bold_omi@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-22
#76 · Quote Reply

This reminds me of INTERCAL.

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Fmstrat lemmy.world Fmstrat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-27
#77 · Quote Reply

Reminds me of my favorite command line utility.

Unfortunately no longer maintained, but in case you didn't see the other reply: https://codeberg.org/iff/pay-respects

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mazzilius_marsti lemmy.world mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-15
#78 · Quote Reply

alias sudo='Please'
alias rm -rf ='thank you'

Please thank you

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Fmstrat lemmy.world Fmstrat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-04-27
#79 · Quote Reply

Wait, isn't it the other way around? I thought ; only executed the next command if the previous one succeeded, and && executed the next command regardless of exit status.

Partly right in bash:

set -e; echo 1; echo 2;

is the same as

echo 1 && echo 2

So if you see the -e in a script, it's to keep the function clean.

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Alberat lemmy.world Alberat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-03
#80 · (edited) Quote Reply

User is not in the pleaser file. This incident will be reported.

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tetris11 feddit.uk tetris11@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-17
#81 · (edited) Quote Reply

alias doasisay="su -u passwordlessrootaccount"  
alias satisfyme="echo Yes Master; doasisay"  
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NeilBrü lemmy.world NeilBru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-04
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

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You forgot the -v flag to watch your dreams die in real time!

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NeilBrü lemmy.world NeilBru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-04
#83 · (edited) Quote Reply

Linux isn't an algorithm though

The linux kernel, given my very pedestrian understanding of it, is a program that allows other programs (e.g., GNU utilities) to talk to a computer system's hardware.

Therefore, linux could be considered a collection of algorithms that can be modularly compiled to handle:

  • Resource Alocation
  • Memory Management
  • Abstraction
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FalschgeldFurkan lemmy.world FalschgeldFurkan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-09
#84 · Quote Reply

The linux kernel, given my very pedestrian understanding of it, is a program that allows other programs (e.g., GNU utilities) to talk to a computer system's hardware. Therefore, linux could be considered a collection of algorithms that can be modularly compiled to handle: Resource Alocation Memory Management Abstraction

is a program that allows other programs (e.g., GNU utilities) to talk to a computer system’s hardware.

Therefore, linux could be considered a collection of algorithms

By that logic, Linux is also a web browser or a video game, which it isn't

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andallthat lemmy.world andallthat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#85 · (edited) Quote Reply

I always preferred the version where please="sudo !!", but I recently tried setting it up and couldn't get it to work on fish, sadly.

I'm a new windows emigrant, so I don't have that muscle memory.... so I am getting used more easily to using fish's ALT+S to sudo the previous command.

EDIT: @Alaknar@sopuli.xyz I just checked that !! works too for me, apparently because of this: https://github.com/oh-my-fish/plugin-bang-bang

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JackbyDev programming.dev JackbyDev@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-13
#86 · Quote Reply

Elite Pink Guy reference

It's a reference to a comic where Goofy murdered children lol, but yeah, Pink Guy may have said it too.

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NeilBrü lemmy.world NeilBru@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-04
#87 · (edited) Quote Reply

is a program that allows other programs (e.g., GNU utilities) to talk to a computer system’s hardware. Therefore, linux could be considered a collection of algorithms By that logic, Linux is also a web browser or a video game, which it isn't

You're using a logical fallacy called reductio ad absurdum. You take my interpretation of Linux's definition to an extreme to make it look ridiculous.

To be fair to you and remain taxonomically accurate, the linux kernel is a system of algorithms, which (to be fair to me) can be considered an algorithm (the main loop) of algorithms.

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Reginald_T_Biter lemmy.world Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-16
#88 · Quote Reply

please touch me

please touch my.butt

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funkajunk 🇨🇦 lemmy.world funkajunk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-08
#89 · Quote Reply

It's a reference to a comic where Goofy murdered children lol, but yeah, Pink Guy may have said it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umvgwXINJBE

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6️⃣9️⃣4️⃣2️⃣0️⃣ lemmy.world 69420@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#90 · Quote Reply

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$ man woman
No manual entry for woman

🤷‍♂️

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6️⃣9️⃣4️⃣2️⃣0️⃣ lemmy.world 69420@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-28
#91 · Quote Reply

I always preferred the version where please="sudo !!", but I recently tried setting it up and couldn't get it to work on fish, sadly.
alias please='sudo $(fc -ln -1)'
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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-10
#92 · Quote Reply

Linux isn't an algorithm though

And I've never asked it to do anything, I always tell it to do what it needs to do and it does it exactly as asked

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-10
#93 · Quote Reply

Are you trying to tell us that you renamed “sudo” as “STFU”?

Why? It does what it needs to do without whining, so it does exactly what it needs to do. No renaming needed

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stardustpathsofglory lemmy.world stardustpathsofglory@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-03
#94 · (edited) Quote Reply

alias thus speaks the Lord='sudo'

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