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MrNobody
quokk.au
MrNobody@quokk.auJoined: 2025-11-11 |
I'm not betraying a hard worker like that, they've shown up for work everyday for 7-10 years and you think I would replace them with some young'n? |
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philpo
feddit.org
philpo@feddit.org Joined: 2024-06-24 |
Your third source is about the 2020 follow-up study of the 2017 study in your first source. You've "only" got three independent sources even though it looks like four ("only" in scare quotes because three is still plenty).
A follow up is a absolutely regular thing and does not diminish neither study. |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
I'm genuinely curious: why do you need smoke detectors? I'm asking as an european that has lived without them all their life in more than one country. They are not mandatory here and not even common. What's the reason to install ther? (I know the reason is to detect smoke, I'm asking the underlying reason behind the need to detect smoke)
Because fire hot! |
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corsicanguppy
lemmy.ca
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I survived a house fire and my family was left with nearly nothing. We no longer live in places made from fire's favourite food. |
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grue
lemmy.world
grue@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
A follow up is a absolutely regular thing and does not diminish neither study.
I didn't say they were diminished. I said they weren't independent. |
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BurgerBaron
piefed.social
BurgerBaron@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-25 |
If your smoke detectors go off when you are cooking, then the smoke detectors are too close to the kitchen. At least where I live, building code mandates one smoke detector in each bedroom, one in each hallway leading to a bedroom, and at least one smoke detector on each floor of the home. Generally, avoid placing smoke detectors near kitchens or exterior windows which, when open, are right nex...
It's actually because my fume hood does nothing and is a piece of shit just slightly more than I am for not replacing it. At least I switched to avacado oil, higher smoke point. |
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IndustryStandard
lemmy.world
IndustryStandard@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-18 |
Mine expired and decided to sing me the song of their people at 4am. That was an exciting night, I'll tell you that...
They always wait until nighttime. |
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Sorrow3527
lemmy.world
Sorrow3527@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-22 |
Most carbon monoxide detectors do too |
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bingbong
lemmy.dbzer0.com
bingbong@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Edit your comment and I'll maybe come back and bother with voting.
*dooting |
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IWW4
lemmy.zip
IWW4@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-12 |
And if you live in a place with a lot of industry or traffic it should be replaced sooner than that. |
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IWW4
lemmy.zip
IWW4@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-12 |
This is only true for the Americium based smoke detectors. The newer photoelectric cell fire detectors don't decay like Americium detectors, and as long as you replace the battery it'll be good for however long it's internal components (capacitors and whatnot) will last. Technology Connections has a good video about this subject: https://youtu.be/DuAeaIcAXtg
Hehe. You want to bet your life on that? You want to bet the life of your kids on that? |
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Abundance114
lemmy.world
Abundance114@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-23 |
I'm genuinely curious: why do you need smoke detectors? I'm asking as an european that has lived without them all their life in more than one country. They are not mandatory here and not even common. What's the reason to install ther? (I know the reason is to detect smoke, I'm asking the underlying reason behind the need to detect smoke)
You're not fooling me! |
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netweirdo
lemmy.zip
netweirdo@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-15 |
This is only true for the Americium based smoke detectors. The newer photoelectric cell fire detectors don't decay like Americium detectors, and as long as you replace the battery it'll be good for however long it's internal components (capacitors and whatnot) will last. Technology Connections has a good video about this subject: https://youtu.be/DuAeaIcAXtg
Alec in his own video mentions that the issue isn't that the Americium decays, but that the electronics themselves age and fail, which applies to both the ionization detectors and photoelectric detectors. This is one of the things you just don't wanna mess with, as such a failure is completely unpredictable, and from what I know some manufacturers are even beginning to make detector units with non-replaceable batteries, intended to be replaced whole when the battery dies after years of runtime, to make it impossible to keep using a detector after its rated lifetime. |
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roofuskit
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roofuskit@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-11-03 |
They make ones now with an internal battery that lasts 10 years. No more chirping and swapping 9V batteries.
Those are the only battery ones legal to sell where I live. |
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SpawnStorm
lemmy.world
SpawnStorm@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-07 |
Genuine question, how do you dispose of these properly? We have limited electronic recycling options that I’ve found. When I brought my old detectors in, they sent me away. What do you all do? |
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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
Genuine question, how do you dispose of these properly? We have limited electronic recycling options that I’ve found. When I brought my old detectors in, they sent me away. I suppose I could break down the plastic vs the circuit components and recycle the plastic. What do you all do?
Your city should have a solid / chemical waste collection point. |
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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
If you live in a state that observes time changes you should get in the habit of checking them on that day. It means you check them twice a year and you’ll be mindful of the expiration date. |
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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
Mine expired and decided to sing me the song of their people at 4am. That was an exciting night, I'll tell you that...
They always wait until night. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
don't sweat it. decades ago nobody slept with them and did just fine. you'll be ok for one night.
Decades ago i survived a house only because I had left an empty aerosol can of mousse in a pile of clothes. That pile started burning and caused the can to explode and wake me. Otherwise the fire would have consumed me as well. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
They make ones now with an internal battery that lasts 10 years. No more chirping and swapping 9V batteries.
I was looking at one of those when I was buying new detectors. |
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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
I'm genuinely curious: why do you need smoke detectors? I'm asking as an european that has lived without them all their life in more than one country. They are not mandatory here and not even common. What's the reason to install ther? (I know the reason is to detect smoke, I'm asking the underlying reason behind the need to detect smoke)
They prevent death. |
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uninvitedguest
piefed.ca
uninvitedguest@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-06-07 |
In fact, smoke alarms with user-replaceable batteries became illegal in Scotland a couple of years ago. Still waiting to see if the same regulation gets applied across the entire UK, but anecdotally I’ve noticed it’s already much harder to find anything other than 10-year battery or hardwired models in my part of England.
What's the reason behind that legislation? |
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MurrayL
lemmy.world
MurrayL@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
What's the reason behind that legislation?
Safety. What else? You can see a news report from when it came into force here: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60203081 The guidance is here: https://www.gov.scot/publications/fire-and-smoke-alarms-in-scottish-homes/pages/where-and-what-to-buy/ Which includes this part on batteries:
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lohky
lemmy.world
lohky@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-30 |
Ours were just replaced in our rental house. They were last replaced in 2004 and our corpo landlord just doesn't give a fuck. I don't think our dryer vent has been cleaned in a decade. This place is a fire trap. |
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CentipedeFarrier
piefed.social
CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social Joined: 2025-11-21 |
It sucks ass. I've gone through about 5 of them well short of 10 years. I do see that this brand released a new version, but this is the one I had. Absolute garbage. They kept giving false positives, and they have no replaceable batteries so they just become E-waste after you disable them. This is the one I had. https://www.homedepot.com/pep/Kidde-10-Year-Worry-Free-Battery-Smoke-and-Carbon-Mon...
I’ve had the same problem with them. I don’t recommend them either. Even if they do have a warranty, they aren’t reliable enough to be worth doing the warranty claim on, imho. I’ve gone back to the old battery style and gotten some rechargeable 9 volt. |
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fakeman_pretendname
feddit.uk
fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Genuine question, how do you dispose of these properly? We have limited electronic recycling options that I’ve found. When I brought my old detectors in, they sent me away. I suppose I could break down the plastic vs the circuit components and recycle the plastic. What do you all do?
I put things like this in a box labelled "I don't know how to recycle this", then I put that box in the corner of the least-used room in the house, where I won't see it often. |
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bigboismith
lemmy.world
bigboismith@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-05 |
I put things like this in a box labelled "I don't know how to recycle this", then I put that box in the corner of the least-used room in the house, where I won't see it often.
Exactly, that is a "next of kin" kinda problem |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
Edit your comment and I'll maybe come back and bother with voting.
No vote. Doot! |
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Bronzebeard
lemmy.zip
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-01 |
A motion to rename every element that's named after a place. All in favor updoot, all opposed downdoot
Okay, let's start with Helium (named after the sun) |
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BradleyUffner
lemmy.world
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-11 |
Alec in his own video mentions that the issue isn't that the Americium decays, but that the electronics themselves age and fail, which applies to both the ionization detectors and photoelectric detectors. This is one of the things you just don't wanna mess with, as such a failure is completely unpredictable, and from what I know some manufacturers are even beginning to make detector units with ...
I'm sure that's the reason say they do it, but that smells like standard corporate planned obsolescence and profit seeking with a great PR team. |
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kofe
lemmy.world
kofe@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-10 |
Genuine question, how do you dispose of these properly? We have limited electronic recycling options that I’ve found. When I brought my old detectors in, they sent me away. I suppose I could break down the plastic vs the circuit components and recycle the plastic. What do you all do?
See if you have a local household hazardous waste recycling program. If not, check with the fire department if they'll take em |
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Suburbanl3g3nd
lemmings.world
Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world Joined: 2023-10-16 |
Ours were just replaced in our rental house. They were last replaced in 2004 and our corpo landlord just doesn't give a fuck. I don't think our dryer vent has been cleaned in a decade. This place is a fire trap.
Found out my dryer vent duct was disconnected on both ends. I wouldn't be surprised 🤷 |
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carrylex
lemmy.world
carrylex@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-04-05 |
If you're not living in USA-land you're probably fine to simply change the battery every few years because you've got a photoelectric smoke detector. Ionization based smoke detectors (that require changing because radioactive...) are more unsafe and usually only allowed in special cases in non third world countries like the EU. Oh and you also can't just throw them into the trash because you know radioactivity... except in USA-land... |
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wonderingwanderer
sopuli.xyz
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2025-12-31 |
Okay, let's start with Helium (named after the sun)
That's a celestial object, not a place. The sun is traveling at 230 km/s around the galaxy. It's not a "place." |
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AA5B
lemmy.world
AA5B@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Genuine question, how do you dispose of these properly? We have limited electronic recycling options that I’ve found. When I brought my old detectors in, they sent me away. I suppose I could break down the plastic vs the circuit components and recycle the plastic. What do you all do?
You keep it until the next hazardous waste collection day, then put it in your car to bring there. Spend half an hour waiting in a big line of cars, get up to where they take it and get yelled at for wasting their time on such a small amount of hazardous waste |
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AA5B
lemmy.world
AA5B@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-09 |
Don’t they all do that now? Tell you when they’ve expired? |
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lohky
lemmy.world
lohky@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-30 |
Found out my dryer vent duct was disconnected on both ends. I wouldn't be surprised 🤷
I've warned them about this and our gutters rotting away the wood on our patio and they told me both were tenant's responsibility, despite a whole section on their website saying otherwise. I couldn't give a fuck less about this house. I close on my first HOME next week! |
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BigDiction
lemmy.world
BigDiction@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-20 |
It sucks ass. I've gone through about 5 of them well short of 10 years. I do see that this brand released a new version, but this is the one I had. Absolute garbage. They kept giving false positives, and they have no replaceable batteries so they just become E-waste after you disable them. This is the one I had. https://www.homedepot.com/pep/Kidde-10-Year-Worry-Free-Battery-Smoke-and-Carbon-Mon...
That’s all they sell at Costco now and I’m worried they won’t last 10 years. They’re kinda pricey too $70 for two. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
Don’t they all do that now? Tell you when they’ve expired?
Maybe, if it is made past a certain date. Mine in the image, from 2005, did not. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
If you live in a state that observes time changes you should get in the habit of checking them on that day. It means you check them twice a year and you’ll be mindful of the expiration date.
The instructions in the box (who reads those right?) says to test monthly. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
That’s all they sell at Costco now and I’m worried they won’t last 10 years. They’re kinda pricey too $70 for two.
My hardwired detector was $73 for 1. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
I work in EMS. When we respond to house fires in the middle of the night there's kind of two different ways they go. When people have smoke detectors and their house catches on fire in the middle of the night they're the ones who call us and we get on scene to find them outside their home in their pajamas, watching their house burn, very shaken up but ok. They never need anything from us ambula...
As I mentioned in another comment, I almost died in a house fire. I had an aerosol can in a pile of clothes that caught fire from a heater, that can exploded and woke me. Otherwise I would have slept through the fire. Your comment hits me really hard (I am sure not as hard as being on scene where they did not have detectors). But reading some of the dismissive comments I was starting to think I was over reacting, you assured me I was not. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
I don't even have smoke detectors. lol
RIP. Please get at least one. |
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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
The instructions in the box (who reads those right?) says to test monthly.
Okay do that. |
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ayyy
sh.itjust.works
ayyy@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-06-20 |
don't sweat it. decades ago nobody slept with them and did just fine. you'll be ok for one night.
People die every day in house fires, dumbass. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
Decades ago i survived a house only because I had left an empty aerosol can of mousse in a pile of clothes. That pile started burning and caused the can to explode and wake me. Otherwise the fire would have consumed me as well.
that's an interesting way to instantaneously combust. did they determine what the source was? |
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Bronzebeard
lemmy.zip
Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-07-01 |
That's a celestial object, not a place. The sun is traveling at 230 km/s around the galaxy. It's not a "place."
The sun is a place. The moon is a place. Earth is a place. A specific location on the earth is also a place. Anything you insert into a sentence describing the origin point of something traveling is a place. |
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nocturne
slrpnk.net
nocturne@slrpnk.netJoined: 2025-06-13 |
that's an interesting way to instantaneously combust. did they determine what the source was?
It was a space heater, I had it on a timer (we had no heating in that part of the house) and I thought I had turned it off. My laundry pile was too close to the heater, it ignited the laundry which caused the can to rupture. The fire was isolated to my room, and my dad and I got it extinguished before the fire department arrived. We lived 20 miles outside town. I forget what the exact cause was listed as in the report, but it was not the same as the actual cause. |
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JcbAzPx
lemmy.world
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
The half life for americium 241 is like 450 years. The 10 year replacement has nothing to do with decay. It's just a non specific safety in case any of the electronics or board etc start to fail. Photoelectric detectors have the same 10 year recommendation as a max. It's actually recommend by many organizations (like the NFPA) to replace photoelectric detectors more often than ionization detect...
It's tuned to a specific output and isn't exactly field adjustable. Certainly it will continue to be radioactive long after you're dead, but that doesn't mean it will still be working properly. |
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sunbytes
lemmy.world
sunbytes@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
You're supposed to test them fairly regularly. I get that monthly might be a pain, but once or twice a year is probably smart, for safety equipment. |
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