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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#52 · Quote Reply

But Deutsch is free to keep the money flowing to POTUS, family, and friends!

from PUTIN to duestche bank to TRUMP.

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Maeve kbin.earth Maeve@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-06-16
#53 · Quote Reply

from PUTIN to duestche bank to TRUMP.

Hmmm. How would PUTIN gotten the money to Trump without the bank that's still in business?

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KoboldCoterie pawb.social KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-05
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

Corporations are not citizens, so all corporate accounts are toast as well, right?

Of course not, just like rich non-citizens will have exceptions made for them. The rules only apply to the poors.

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Blumpkinhead lemmy.world Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#55 · Quote Reply

Just waiting for that inevitable heart attack…

I hope it fucking hurts, too.

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PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him] lemmy.sdf.org PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-07-09
#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

He truly is the stupidest man I've ever heard of...and I knew a guy who boiled his sliced bread because the toaster was broken (true story, and he procreated...a lot).

I knew a guy who boiled his sliced bread because the toaster was broken

Have I got a man for you.

Edit: I kinda forgot that this comment was about Trump. This dude is great, but... just watch the video, you'll see what I mean 😆

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Not_mikey lemmy.dbzer0.com Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-30
#57 · Quote Reply

So if someone is a permanent resident are they just expected to keep their money under their mattress?

No, they should put it in the safest store of value Trump Coin, or whatever crypto BS his sons are hocking these days.

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Not_mikey lemmy.dbzer0.com Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-01-30
#58 · Quote Reply

What are the odds this is some weird play he's doing on his/his sons stable coin?

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#59 · Quote Reply

Let's pretend this passes and becomes law. Now imagine a nationwide call for people to do a run on their bank, and pull out all their money. Even when the banks try to limit withdrawals, it doesn't mean you can't come back at some point and keep withdrawing. Not everyone would do it, but eventually the news would be running in panic mode, as would investors. I'd imagine the banks would be keen ...

Let’s pretend this passes and becomes law.

It's en executive order. Nothing to pass, and it probably will get defeated in court unless they can venue-shop and route it to a corrupt judge.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#60 · Quote Reply

So if someone is a permanent resident are they just expected to keep their money under their mattress?

You don't even need to be a permanent resident now, you just have to have a taxpayer ID number (a TIN).

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#61 · Quote Reply

It wasn’t supposed to be a way to enact new laws, it was meant to give agencies direction on how to go about enacting and enforcing laws passed by congress. EOs should be considered dead on arrival and unenforceable unless they begin and end by listing which laws passed by Congress they're meant to enforce and enact.

The problem isn't citations, it's the legislative branch and the courts not doing their duty of oversight.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#62 · Quote Reply

The article makes it sound like Trump's racism against Somais and hatred of Ilhan Omar has a basis in fact and sanewashes his invasion of US cities by armed goons. Not unusual for the often-shoddy journalism of the oligarch-owned Independent.

One thing that is correct that many people posting here seem not to understand is that there is no current residency requirement to open a bank account in the US. Some banks will refuse because of their own policies, but that's it. You have to prove your identity, not your lawful residency status.

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Mirshe lemmy.world Mirshe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#63 · Quote Reply

Do you want to collect less in taxes? Cuz this is how you encourage cash under the table compensation agreements. Fuck it, make it a law you have to be a citizen to own a home, trade stocks and buy anything that is not food. Ill get my citizenship from Niue where they have an average annual population growth rate of 1 person per year and ill go full on undocumented illegal who follows the lae b...

be a citizen to own a home, etc

That's part of the point, eventually. You just start narrowing who's a "citizen" from there. It's why they want to get rid of birthright citizenship so badly, because then you can make up whatever test you like, and potentially even say "alright, NOBODY is a citizen unless you go and present yourself for racial profiling/pass a test/etc" or whatever.

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Tiger666 lemmy.ca Tiger666@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-15
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

Corporations are not citizens, so all corporate accounts are toast as well, right?

Corporations have the same rights as human beings. Corporations are in fact, in the eyes of the law, people.

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IronBird lemmy.world IronBird@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-06
#65 · Quote Reply

Yeah that’s gonna generate an absolute shitload of lawsuits. Also, way to go speeding the shift away from the USD as the de facto global reserve currency. Jesus tapdancing christ.

this is their goal, they're trying to collapse the US economy. disaster capitalism is all that's left when all other fields are taken/captured by effective monopolies. there's no room for organic growth, just smashing shit to the ground and buying up distressed assets on the cheap

we have done this boom/bust cycle many times now

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-10
#66 · (edited) Quote Reply

Let's pretend this passes and becomes law. Now imagine a nationwide call for people to do a run on their bank, and pull out all their money. Even when the banks try to limit withdrawals, it doesn't mean you can't come back at some point and keep withdrawing. Not everyone would do it, but eventually the news would be running in panic mode, as would investors. I'd imagine the banks would be keen ...

My understanding is that FDIC means you can't really do a bank run, the bank can just get its money back from the feds

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TehWorld lemmy.world TehWorld@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#67 · Quote Reply

What are the odds this is some weird play he's doing on his/his sons stable coin?

Having done as much research into this as the average mom does into vaccines…

I’m convinced that this is a monkey throwing poop at the wall to see what sticks. Monkeys don’t seem to have much of a cohesive plan, it’s just kinda funny to throw shit.

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TehWorld lemmy.world TehWorld@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#68 · Quote Reply

Let’s pretend this passes and becomes law. It's en executive order. Nothing to pass, and it probably will get defeated in court unless they can venue-shop and route it to a corrupt judge.

Aileen is pretty busy these days I hear.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-10
#69 · Quote Reply

It wasn’t supposed to be a way to enact new laws, it was meant to give agencies direction on how to go about enacting and enforcing laws passed by congress. EOs should be considered dead on arrival and unenforceable unless they begin and end by listing which laws passed by Congress they're meant to enforce and enact.

The regime actually does this, sometimes, like with the illegal tariffs. They site the law they pretend lets them do what they want to do, even when it really doesn't.

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RestrictedAccount lemmy.world RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#70 · Quote Reply

It’s long past time to kill executive orders. Even the times they are used for good, they are often legally dubious and live on the whims of the courts.

You can’t really kill them. Technically it’s just the President saying do X or Y.

On their own, they have no effect in law.

They only instruct the Executive Branch on how to operate WITHIN existing law.

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queermunist she/her lemmy.ml queermunist@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-10
#71 · Quote Reply

Women are next.

The voter ID law is a clue - anyone who has a name different than what is on their birth cirtificate. Women who take their husbands names don't need to be able to vote or have bank accounts, they have husbands for that!

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TehWorld lemmy.world TehWorld@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#72 · Quote Reply

The problem isn't citations, it's the legislative branch and the courts not doing their duty of oversight.

Yep. The courts could sort of solve this with a large rubber stamp that says “Nope”, but our court system has been replaced by a tall Australian Marsupial.

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OwOarchist pawb.social OwOarchist@pawb.social
Joined: 2026-02-13
#73 · Quote Reply

Corporations have the same rights as human beings. Corporations are in fact, in the eyes of the law, people.

Corporations are in fact, in the eyes of the law, people.

People, sure. But are they Citizens? They can't vote, they can't run for or hold office, so it seems they aren't.

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__Lost__ lemmy.dbzer0.com __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-11-20
#74 · Quote Reply

Corporations are in fact, in the eyes of the law, people. People, sure. But are they Citizens? They can't vote, they can't run for or hold office, so it seems they aren't.

Ooh, don't say that out loud, citizens united might hear you

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LostSoul8765 lemmy.world LostSoul8765@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-23
#75 · Quote Reply

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Fedizen lemmy.world Fedizen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#76 · Quote Reply

I wonder if the goal is to push more people into crypto to prop it up?

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OwOarchist pawb.social OwOarchist@pawb.social
Joined: 2026-02-13
#77 · Quote Reply

Ooh, don't say that out loud, citizens united might hear you

In 20 years, we'll be hearing President Amazon's state of the union address, followed by a rebuttal from Senator Walmart.

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
Joined: 2025-09-27
#78 · Quote Reply

no, but he likes to uses EOs as distraction from epstein.

I think that's backwards. If anything the files are the distraction from the fascist takeover of the country.

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
Joined: 2025-09-27
#79 · Quote Reply

So what would happen to all of those bank accounts of people on work visas?

They'd go to corporate bonuses.

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Zink programming.dev Zink@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-08
#80 · Quote Reply

So now republicans are cool with the government telling businesses who they can and cannot do business with?

I'm not sure whether to file this one under projection or just good old bigotry.

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teawrecks sopuli.xyz teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-06
#81 · Quote Reply

If only people worked together like that, we'd do amazing things.

If your bank is legally required to unilaterally take your wealth from you at the whim of Trump, everyone with wealth will put it elsewhere. Historically, bank runs are much harder to stop than start.

The same concern looms over govts threatening to sieze accounts that belong to the Kremlin over Ukraine. If anyone does it, they are implicitly signaling to their other clients that their funds are not safe from political strife.

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BananaIsABerry lemmy.zip BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-30
#82 · Quote Reply

You can’t really kill them. Technically it’s just the President saying do X or Y. On their own, they have no effect in law. They only instruct the Executive Branch on how to operate WITHIN existing law.

The executive branch seems a bit... Too expanded if that's the case.

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RestrictedAccount lemmy.world RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#83 · Quote Reply

The executive branch seems a bit... Too expanded if that's the case.

Well much of what he is ordering is already illegal. So passing more laws sort of justifies his lawlessness.

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Tiger666 lemmy.ca Tiger666@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-15
#84 · Quote Reply

Corporations are in fact, in the eyes of the law, people. People, sure. But are they Citizens? They can't vote, they can't run for or hold office, so it seems they aren't.

What is a superPAC?

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Pup Biru aussie.zone pupbiru@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-12-29
#85 · Quote Reply

The article makes it sound like Trump's racism against Somais and hatred of Ilhan Omar has a basis in fact and sanewashes his invasion of US cities by armed goons. Not unusual for the often-shoddy journalism of the oligarch-owned Independent. One thing that is correct that many people posting here seem not to understand is that there is no current residency requirement to open a bank account in...

One thing that is correct that many people posting here seem not to understand is that there is no current residency requirement to open a bank account in the US

okay… but… why is that a problem?

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Mommy Longarms sh.itjust.works OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-19
#86 · Quote Reply

I wonder if the goal is to push more people into crypto to prop it up?

The goal is to fuck over immigrants and poor people, and they don't care who ends up as collateral damage.

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CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#87 · Quote Reply

I'm sure this is the way to solve the affordability crisis.

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SabinStargem lemmy.today SabinStargem@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-03-15
#88 · Quote Reply

I think this will ultimately lead to Trump hoovering up the wealth of his enemies, by closing accounts and having banks transfer the assets to his own hoard. DOGE stole information from the treasury, so Trump has a list to work with.

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Abundance114 lemmy.world Abundance114@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-23
#89 · (edited) Quote Reply

So now republicans are cool with the government telling businesses who they can and cannot do business with? I'm not sure whether to file this one under projection or just good old bigotry.

So now republicans are cool with the government telling businesses who they can and cannot do business with?

Democrats are cool with it too.

When it passed, 80% of the democrats in the Senate voted YES for the Immigration Control and Reform Act of 1986; which is the law that makes it illegal for business to hire undocumented people. It was later signed into law by Reagan. More Democrats actually voted yes for that bill than Republicans. The bill was even introduced into the house by a Democrat.

What a 180 the left has done on immigration.

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-24
#90 · Quote Reply

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"draconian and completely unnecessary" was kinda the platform they ran on. =\

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Big Baby Thor sopuli.xyz thorhop@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-04-10
#91 · Quote Reply

Damn. Instead of releasing the Epstein files, he's really gonna shoot the USD in the foot some more. I bet they're stupid enough to also try to confiscate that money. Watch those Benjamin's become toilet paper real quick.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#92 · Quote Reply

One thing that is correct that many people posting here seem not to understand is that there is no current residency requirement to open a bank account in the US okay… but… why is that a problem?

It's not.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#93 · Quote Reply

Aileen is pretty busy these days I hear.

Maybe she'll bootlick herself into an early grave.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#94 · Quote Reply

Can we cause essentially a run on the bank by having 40% of us move all our liquid assets to euros at once and continuing to move incoming money to cash?

Just try, and suddenly they'll slap exchange controls on us.

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#95 · Quote Reply

I think this will ultimately lead to Trump hoovering up the wealth of his enemies, by closing accounts and having banks transfer the assets to his own hoard. DOGE stole information from the treasury, so Trump has a list to work with.

That would cause bank runs and crash the economy.

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#96 · Quote Reply

I think that's backwards. If anything the files are the distraction from the fascist takeover of the country.

They are one in the same thing.

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#97 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Not to mention the fear. If they are first, what next people who say bad things about dear leader.

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#98 · Quote Reply

Well much of what he is ordering is already illegal. So passing more laws sort of justifies his lawlessness.

I think what they are saying is if everytime Congress creates an agency and puts it under the executive it expands the power.

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#99 · Quote Reply

I wonder if the goal is to push more people into crypto to prop it up?

That will be the ultimate outcome. At this point I would be preferred to be paid in gold and silver.

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#100 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

All the easier for ICE to take.

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#101 · Quote Reply

Now I see where the ICE bonuses are going to come from

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