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rants_unnecessarily piefed.social rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social
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#52 · Quote Reply

this guy belongs in some sort of highly controlled environment. Either prison or a secure psychiatric facility. I'm not sure which.

School. They belong in school.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
#53 · Quote Reply

No? Don’t punish the children for their fathers idiocy.

I'm for letting them feel the full effect of their beliefs.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-15
#54 · Quote Reply

School. They belong in school.

The guy saying he wants to get his children sick with multiple horrific diseases does not belong in school.

He is contemplating child abuse. Good public schools might have prevented all this, but he’s a grown ass man and at a certain point, it’s no longer his shitty education’s fault.

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rants_unnecessarily piefed.social rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-03
#55 · Quote Reply

The guy saying he wants to get his children sick with multiple horrific diseases does not belong in school. He is contemplating child abuse. Good public schools might have prevented all this, but he’s a grown ass man and at a certain point, it’s no longer his shitty education’s fault.

Is a re-education camp a bad idea?

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Treczoks lemmy.world Treczoks@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#56 · Quote Reply

I'm genuinely upset that media wastes attention on such idiots.

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limbones lemmy.wtf limbones@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2026-02-10
#57 · Quote Reply

Fingers crossed for his genetic line to end right here.

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FuglyDuck lemmy.world FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-15
#58 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is a re-education camp a bad idea?

Might want to google that term.

As used by most regimes that use the term… yes. Yes it is.

Vietnam after the war “reeducating” south vietnamese leaders, for example.

Or china “reeducating” Uhgyurs “through labor”

Plenty of other instances of genocide that fell under the same idea- Canada’s residential school system comes to mind.

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WhatSaid lem.ugh.im WhatSaid@lem.ugh.im
Joined: 2026-02-14
#59 · Quote Reply

Run kids!

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rants_unnecessarily piefed.social rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social
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#60 · Quote Reply

Might want to google that term. As used by most regimes that use the term… yes. Yes it is. Vietnam after the war “reeducating” south vietnamese leaders, for example. Or china “reeducating” Uhgyurs “through labor” Plenty of other instances of genocide that fell under the same idea- Canada’s residential school system comes to mind.

I'm aware of what it means and has been used for, that's why it was in the form of a question. It was a rhetoric question with a nod to how a fascist states would handle this kind of people who are of an opposing opinion to the state, except this time the state (nearly) agrees with them.

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800XL lemmy.world 800XL@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#61 · Quote Reply

Tough shit, snowflake. You got some growin' up to do still.

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axx slrpnk.net axx@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-09-19
#62 · Quote Reply

In a sane world his children would be taken from him and he would be jailed for reckless child endangerment. Can't let your kid walk to school but can do this ? Fuck that

You actually have a point, the guy is openly discussing ways to harm his kids and is in all evidence not a safe person for them to be with.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#63 · Quote Reply

Seems like felony child abuse to me.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

remember the MAGATS that were posting "plague spreading memes" on thier social media. Its on anti-vaxxers who take advice from a heroin, cocaine, steroid addict.

pertussis , rsv is one of those disease that is the reverse for adults, more severe in children than adults.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#65 · Quote Reply

I mean, nothing is completely safe, but I bet something like that would be safer than, say, getting polio.

1% chance of getting poliomyelitis, im guessing he wants that 1% chance. also Measles is iffy for children, in a small percentage it causes panechephalitis.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#66 · Quote Reply

This man is out there trying to murder his living family.

he wants to bring back the hermain cain awards.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#67 · Quote Reply

Leaded gasoline really did a number on us not gonna lie.

COVID-MANIA did a number on these people.

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IEatDaFeesh lemmy.world IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-16
#68 · Quote Reply

At this point if anyone says "genuinely" in a sentence in just gonna assume you're not really genuine.

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FishFace piefed.social FishFace@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-10-16
#69 · Quote Reply

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Manslaughter is illegal ya silly

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FishFace piefed.social FishFace@piefed.social
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#70 · Quote Reply

At what point does negligence/stupidity outweigh intent. If you go on YouTube and say you don't believe bullets kill people, and that's all a sham brought about by gun companies, "it's very clear people like 50 cent have been shot numerous times and it hardly effected him.". Then go and push someone in front of a shooter at a gun range, I can't imagine any judge would side with, well fuck he's ...

Never. That's the difference between murder and manslaughter, it's literally the definition.

In your example you'd just have a very hard time convincing a jury that anyone is really stupid enough to believe bullets aren't deadly, whereas I already believe that people are serious about measles and whooping cough being fine. Diseases like measles, while dealt, generally are not as deadly as bullets - risk of death is about 0.3% Vs about 20% from what I found. That makes it much easier to believe that someone has got it wrong.

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LifeInMultipleChoice lemmy.world LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#71 · Quote Reply

Never. That's the difference between murder and manslaughter, it's literally the definition. In your example you'd just have a very hard time convincing a jury that anyone is really stupid enough to believe bullets aren't deadly, whereas I already believe that people are serious about measles and whooping cough being fine. Diseases like measles, while dealt, generally are not as deadly as bulle...

So if he gave his family polio it would be equivalent to shooting himself and wife, and hitting his kids in the face with a shovel. Manslaughter you say

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Rentlar lemmy.ca Rentlar@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-03-14
#72 · Quote Reply

We can just call this guy a "virus advocate".

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FishFace piefed.social FishFace@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-10-16
#73 · Quote Reply

So if he gave his family polio it would be equivalent to shooting himself and wife, and hitting his kids in the face with a shovel. Manslaughter you say

Given polio's deadliness it would be much easier to get a murder conviction in that situation, sure. You'd still have to prove it was intentional though, because that is still the definition of murder. If a defence case is that the accused is not guilty of murder because they didn't intend to kill the victim, and the jury isn't sure that's not true, they mustn't convict.

You mentioned "negligence" in your comment above. If you're claiming negligence, that is going to, by definition, fall under manslaughter laws. In some jurisdictions there is even the charge of "gross negligence manslaughter" which this would probably fall under.

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GalacticGrapefruit lemmy.world GalacticGrapefruit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-30
#74 · Quote Reply

We can just call this guy a "virus advocate".

This guy was less evil.

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mcv lemmy.zip mcv@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-07
#75 · Quote Reply

Of the 4 Chaos gods of Warhammer, I could understand people being tempted by power, sex or violence, but disease never made sense to me. Who would want to be a Nurgle cultist? Now we know.

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Reygle lemmy.world Reygle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#76 · Quote Reply

“I genuinely am upset that your kids are vaccinated, because it’s keeping my kids from getting chickenpox. It’s keeping my kids from getting measles,” he told me. “I believe their health depends on them catching those live viruses.” I asked him if he wanted his kids to catch all of the illnesses against which American children are routinely vaccinated. “Yes,”

To me that really sounds a whole heck of a lot like an open admittance that he'd like his children to die painfully.

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LifeInMultipleChoice lemmy.world LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#77 · (edited) Quote Reply

Given polio's deadliness it would be much easier to get a murder conviction in that situation, sure. You'd still have to prove it was intentional though, because that is still the definition of murder. If a defence case is that the accused is not guilty of murder because they didn't intend to kill the victim, and the jury isn't sure that's not true, they mustn't convict. You mentioned "negligen...

Even the treatments in the past are surreal if you haven't seen them. The "Iron Lung"

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ChadGPT2 lemmy.world ChadGPT2@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-15
#78 · Quote Reply

Of the 4 Chaos gods of Warhammer, I could understand people being tempted by power, sex or violence, but disease never made sense to me. Who would want to be a Nurgle cultist? Now we know.

Nurgle grants eternal life, after a fashion. Easier for me to understand than these IRL death cultists…

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KairuByte lemmy.dbzer0.com KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-09
#79 · Quote Reply

I'm for letting them feel the full effect of their beliefs.

Are you also for punishing children for the crimes of their parents? What about making a child pay for their parents debts?

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fartographer lemmy.world fartographer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-29
#80 · Quote Reply

Did you know that Gandhi was an anti-vaxxer?

Vaccination is a barbarous practice and one of the most fatal of all the delusions current in our time. Conscientious objectors should stand alone, if need be, against the whole world, in defence of their conviction.

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…there is absolutely no need to be afraid of small-pox.

I cannot also help feeling that vaccination is a violation of the dictates of religion and morality.

The vaccine is a filthy substance, and it is foolish to expect that one kind of filth can be removed by another.

Until he wasn't.

I can’t sleep. These kiddies are fading away like little buds. I feel the weight of their deaths on my shoulders. I prevailed upon their parents not to get them vaccinated. Now the children are passing away. It may be, I am afraid, the result of my ignorance and obstinacy; and so I feel very unhappy.

It turns out that if you expose children, unprotected, to deadly diseases, they die.

I wonder who this fucknut is gonna blame when his kids take an "unexpected" turn for the worse?

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Jaysyn lemmy.world Jaysyn@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-09
#81 · Quote Reply

Well how about you die mad you abusive piece of shit?

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Blumpkinhead lemmy.world Blumpkinhead@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#82 · Quote Reply

AFTER his family dies one by one.

What an insane take.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
#83 · Quote Reply

Are you also for punishing children for the crimes of their parents? What about making a child pay for their parents debts?

I'm for making psychopathic MAGAs feel the full weight of their Evil upon themselves. They don't mind killing YOUR children, why are you worried about theirs? They don't even care about them, or they'd get them vaxxed.

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SocialMediaRefugee lemmy.world SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#84 · Quote Reply

This is the problem with vaccines, they've been so successful that demagogues and morons exploit the fading memory of diseases to play on people's ignorance and our fears from not understanding medicine and biology.

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SocialMediaRefugee lemmy.world SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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#85 · Quote Reply

Of the 4 Chaos gods of Warhammer, I could understand people being tempted by power, sex or violence, but disease never made sense to me. Who would want to be a Nurgle cultist? Now we know.

Worshipping Anthraxus

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SocialMediaRefugee lemmy.world SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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#86 · Quote Reply

I wonder if a big part of his psychology here is that by being the contrarian and going against X you create the illusion that you are wiser that others. The hipster effect.

On the plus side people like this weed themselves out of the gene pool. Too bad he is taking his kids down with him.

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SocialMediaRefugee lemmy.world SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#87 · Quote Reply

We can just call this guy a "virus advocate".

Finally, someone is speaking up for dna/rna bundles.

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KairuByte lemmy.dbzer0.com KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-09
#88 · Quote Reply

I'm for making psychopathic MAGAs feel the full weight of their Evil upon themselves. They don't mind killing YOUR children, why are you worried about theirs? They don't even care about them, or they'd get them vaxxed.

Hey man, if you don’t mind killing children I’d say that makes you just as bad as them, but you do you I suppose.

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BeBopALouie lemmy.ca Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca
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#89 · Quote Reply

Good. I hope he gets so mad from people getting vaccinated that he just explodes.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
#90 · Quote Reply

Hey man, if you don’t mind killing children I’d say that makes you just as bad as them, but you do you I suppose.

I'm not killing anyone. THEY are the ones that aren't vaxxing their kids, and putting them, and MY CHILDREN, in danger. I don't see a reason to be polite to people who are voluntarily signing up to be filthy, disgusting disease vectors. If they want to kill their kids, I hope it happens quickly before they spread to the rest of us.

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SocialMediaRefugee lemmy.world SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
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#91 · Quote Reply

The main reason lifespans were so short in the past was because so many kids died of disease that it pushed the avg lifespan down with it. I used to work to restore old cemeteries with my local historical society. I'd find family plots that would have 3-4 kids all dying within a few months of each other.

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-13
#92 · Quote Reply

The main reason lifespans were so short in the past was because so many kids died of disease that it pushed the avg lifespan down with it. I used to work to restore old cemeteries with my local historical society. I'd find family plots that would have 3-4 kids all dying within a few months of each other.

Im starting to feel these fools think they have the good genes that will throw off the disease and its those other undesirables that will die.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#93 · Quote Reply

Even the treatments in the past are surreal if you haven't seen them. The "Iron Lung"

I saw people older than me in the 70s with limps, dead arms, braces and the reason was always polio.

But then God intervened and stopped it that same summer as the Salk vaccine was used.

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KairuByte lemmy.dbzer0.com KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-08-09
#94 · Quote Reply

I'm not killing anyone. THEY are the ones that aren't vaxxing their kids, and putting them, and MY CHILDREN, in danger. I don't see a reason to be polite to people who are voluntarily signing up to be filthy, disgusting disease vectors. If they want to kill their kids, I hope it happens quickly before they spread to the rest of us.

Feels like you’re splitting moral hairs. “I hope their kids die, and it’s okay because I’m not the one killing them.”

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Earthman_Jim lemmy.zip Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
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#95 · Quote Reply

So unbelievably stupid.

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PolarKraken lemmy.dbzer0.com PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#96 · Quote Reply

Im starting to feel these fools think they have the good genes that will throw off the disease and its those other undesirables that will die.

More like God's Plan, these fools don't understand genes, but yeah same outcome.

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village604 adultswim.fan village604@adultswim.fan
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#97 · Quote Reply

I wonder if a big part of his psychology here is that by being the contrarian and going against X you create the illusion that you are wiser that others. The hipster effect. On the plus side people like this weed themselves out of the gene pool. Too bad he is taking his kids down with him.

Taking his kids down with him is kinda necessary to be removed from the gene pool.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#98 · Quote Reply

So unbelievably stupid.

No bro, it's everyone else who is stupid. Bigtree is the true genius who is fighting back against the conspiracy of vaccines that have been perpetuated by evil powerful people for over a century.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#99 · (edited) Quote Reply

I wonder if a big part of his psychology here is that by being the contrarian and going against X you create the illusion that you are wiser that others. The hipster effect. On the plus side people like this weed themselves out of the gene pool. Too bad he is taking his kids down with him.

hipster effect, that's a good one. every hipster i know is a raging insufferable hypocrite who rallies against 'the man'. meanwhile endlessly chasing after 'alt' versions of the same shit everyone else is chasing after to prove how successful and superior they are. they will hate on Brooks Brothers wearing people, but they are willing to spend $100 for one ironic T shirt...

all image, no substance.

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#100 · Quote Reply

This is the problem with vaccines, they've been so successful that demagogues and morons exploit the fading memory of diseases to play on people's ignorance and our fears from not understanding medicine and biology.

sadly, most human beings trust their own 'judgement' of direct and anecdotal experiences far more than they will ever trust the abstractions of science and mathematics that prove them wrong

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TubularTittyFrog lemmy.world TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-23
#101 · (edited) Quote Reply

Because pro-asbestos and anti-seatbelt people existed, but they didn’t have megaphones to reach the whole world. Here's the question: Idiots and wise people both have this megaphone to reach the world. Why do the idiots seem to succeed much more often?

because people find confidence attractive and appealing. for most people, blind faith and never admitting you are wrong is seen as confident.

and wise people don't seem confident because they acknowledge their limits and that they might be wrong.

human psychology is full of this stuff. it is not optimized to be truth seeking, it's optimized to look for the easiest explanation and the one that unifies the tribe.

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