Company is run by individuals.

I have no idea why you need to start insulting me now.

If anything, I expect the EU to try and keep anti-circumvention laws to benefit its own tech industry.

The neat thing about Doctorow's proposal, though, is that at this point anyone could do it. Canada, India, Brazil... with tariffs already in play, there's not really much to lose.

Police aren't people

Just had myself some kind of freedom boner.

it's pretty much every country outside of the western hegemony.

any manufacturing city will have markets filled with factory overstock from various brands they produce for. it's perfectly normal.

copyrights and trademarks do not exist in places where they are not enforced

I have considered that possibility, yeah. I'm not an expert by far, but it seems less likely.

Breaking from the US is going to cause an initial upheaval to the tech industry that the EU won't be able to just immediately assert new anti-circumvention on while they are in the active process of a smash and grab. It's going to take at least some amount of time for them to re-establish that on their terms during which people will become a lot better familiarized and practiced at what all this jailbreaking is going to look like.

People can resist during that time and while I don't necessarily delude myself into thinking that'll be super effective, it will also require legal coordination and brand new anti-circumvention tech. Could still be wishful thinking, but I don't assume it's just a done deal.

God, I wish I was the type of person who could afford to leave my town, much less my country. :/

Too many clothes required.

Can't sanction everyone. How many Navy ships are there?

If there are broken up markets with anti-circumvention, then more attractive players will appear to compete without it.

para el país

I never said Cuba should join the US, just that corporations could collect royalties on their copyrighted material if they weren't barred from doing business with the country.

At least 3.

That's his argument, but I don't really buy it.

For example, what would Hollywood do if Canada suddenly stopped respecting copyright? (I know we're talking about the anti-circumvention provision of the DMCA, but the C in DMCA is "Copyright", so this would definitely be framed as Canada not respecting copyrights.) A lot of movies and TV shows are now made in Canada. I imagine a lot of those companies would pull their productions out of Canada. So, whichever politician passed the law would be labelled as the one who killed Canada's entertainment industry.

If Canada allowed jailbreaking John Deere tractors, or HP printers, they might stop selling them in Canada. If Canada allowed people to bypass Apple's App Store, Apple might ban all apps from Canadians and Canadian companies. That might piss off farmers, or CTOs, venture capitalists, etc.

Taking this step might create a lot of new jobs, but that's a big unknown. How many jobs? How well paying? How long would it take for them to be established. They'd have to weigh that against all the people whose jobs might be disrupted. So, it's much easier to stick with the status quo, even if that status quo means just bending over for the US.

Hahah yeah these fuckers have become great at adding clothes to the movie 😂😂

Why expose yourself to legal risk by torrenting media (which involves uploading which is distributing) when you can find sites that stream it for you? Just go to Yandex and look up "blah stream" and you'll find tons of sites streaming whatever you want.

I do this because I've tried to watch movies with online friends but every major streaming service I tried won't let me share my screen and stream. They all break somehow. I'm not sure if it's intentional or what, but it doesn't matter.

I don't think any these companies would stomach a cut in sales. They'd definitely try and fight any change in the courts.

Despite being run by individuals I think there's at least some amount of difference between pirating a book to read it and pirating all books in existance to make copius amount of profits.

Not arguing for any moral superiority here, just pointing the difference.

I think random Russian streaming sites are far more risky but for different reasons

Because streams can be janky and slow. Before I started torrenting, I would try to stream everything. It was hard to find good streams, and even when I thought I had found one, I'd still have shows pause and start stuttering during a critical moment in the story.

Ya don't say.

There's no practical difference between saving money and earning money.

Oh, cool, so that means that I can pay my rent, utilities, etc. by torrenting. Where's my fucking check?!

The EU contingency for a US attack on Greenland for example is among other steps to suspend all US copyrights recognition and starve the US service industry.

Ignore patents (especially medical), licenses, royalties and such while they're at it.
Ban all travel for any muricans (they should do it anyway 'cos measles) and invite them to leave the EU.
Ignore right to repair.
Nationalize any Big US Tech assets in the EU (datacenters, wharehouses) as well as bank accounts, use them to build EU digital infrastructure.
Discourage usage of US tech (windows,AWS, etc) / encourage use of non-US tech.
Stop using USD for any trading.
Close down all US military presence or lock them in.
Etc

What I do is try to support the creators as directly as I can when possible.

This is the way.

You won't get your Internet cut off because some copyright holder sends your ISP a complaint.

That's true, but it's also free.

Torrents are free, too.

Not without risking your ISP cutting your Internet off. You need a VPN to mitigate that risk.

I didn't think I'd need to explain the difference between saving money and earning money but here we are.

When you earn money, you get a check you can spend on more stuff. When you save money, you don't get a check - that would be earning, not saving. Instead, you're spending less, which means you have that money left to buy something else. Those savings are effectively what you "earn."

When you download a $40 movie for free, you're left with $40 more to spend on something else. It doesn't matter whether I hand you $40 to buy the movie or you pirate it - in both cases, you end up with the exact same amount of money afterward.

But in both cases you have the option to pay - yet choose not to. If money wasn't an issue, there wouldn't really be any reason to pirate anything. That's why I see piracy as a financial decision, and thus I don't think piracy advocates have any ground to stand on when they criticize AI companies for doing the exact same thing. It's not identical, but it's equivalent.

One could even argue that individual piracy is selfish because it only benefits the one person doing it. AI companies at least are providing a product that hundreds of millions of people get value out of - and the vast majority of them get it for free.

I didn't think I'd need to explain the difference between saving money and earning money but here we are.

There's no practical difference between saving money and earning money.

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I wonder if they actually cut it off. I've never tested it. Having a VPN is a good idea just from a privacy standpoint, though. The benefits for torrenting and getting around region locks are just a bonus.

I don't wanna test it. I've heard of folks getting nasty grams from their ISP about it and having like X strikes before getting cut off. What VPN do you use? I've been curious to try one.

Proton.

Based

This reminds me of a video i saw where some dude in cuba hosted his own "netflix" and it had a truckload of pirated content.

right now? like, right now ? you know whats going on, right?