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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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The UK Green Party is set to vote on whether "Zionism is Racism" at the upcoming Spring Conference.

Motion A105 Zionism is Racism defines Zionism as racism, recognises its "continued harm to Palestinians," and would position the stance of the Green Party as anti-Zionist.

It recognizes Zionism as Israel's foundational ideology that has created and maintains an apartheid regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. It further affirms the right to self-determination and liberation of the Palestinian people and supports the establishment of a "single democratic Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capital." This effectively would eradicate the State of Israel.

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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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20cello lemmy.world 20cello@lemmy.world
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Zionism is much more than racism, it's system made genocide

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Octagon9561 lemmy.ml Octagon9561@lemmy.ml
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Common sense isn’t really based tbh

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Egonallanon feddit.uk Egonallanon@feddit.uk
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Really glad to see the swing the greens have taken since Polanski became leader. Only significant party that seems to be willing to any stance opposing Israel.

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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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Common sense isn’t really based tbh

It should be common sense that Zionism is racism but everyone is still afraid to say it. One of those "ahead of our time" moments.

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SomeoneSomewhere lemmy.nz SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz
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It recognizes Zionism as Israel’s foundational ideology that has created and maintains an apartheid regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. It further affirms the right to self-determination and liberation of the Palestinian people and supports

the establishment of a “single democratic Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capital.” This effectively would eradicate the State of Israel.

I am not sure these two are fundamentally the same.

"Palestine should exist as a state" does not necessarily imply "Israel should not exist as a state".

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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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It recognizes Zionism as Israel’s foundational ideology that has created and maintains an apartheid regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. It further affirms the right to self-determination and liberation of the Palestinian people and supports the establishment of a “single democratic Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capital.” This effect...

It might be JPost exaggerating but would be cool if Greens got on board with the opposing the existence of the racial ethnostate.

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phutatorius lemmy.zip phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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It should be common sense that Zionism is racism but everyone is still afraid to say it. One of those "ahead of our time" moments.

There were Zionists (mainly early socialist Zionists) who believed in coexistence and attempted to uphold the rights of the Palestinians and promote equality. They didn't succeed. I think that this was what Zach was alluding to with his "Zionism isn't necessarily inherently racist" comments. But in practice, the logic of colonialism will inevitably lead to racism, ethnic cleansing and often genocide, and the idealists will get pushed aside by the bigots and thugs.

A historical parallel is the Spanish conquest of Mexico. There were people among the conquistadors, mainly priests, who had benign intentions towards the indigenous peoples. They were rendered completely irrelevant by the vast majority of conquistadors who were gold-hungry gangsters with swords and guns. Those are the forces that colonialism unleashes, and the benign intentions of a few don't change the overall effect.

So I'd support a resolution that Zionism, as it exists now, is colonialist and racist.

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Borger lemmy.blahaj.zone Borger@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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It recognizes Zionism as Israel’s foundational ideology that has created and maintains an apartheid regime between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. It further affirms the right to self-determination and liberation of the Palestinian people and supports the establishment of a “single democratic Palestinian State in all of historic Palestine, with Jerusalem as its capital.” This effect...

This was exactly my response when someone told me that “from the river to the sea” is hate speech calling for eradicating Israel. Only a zio could view Palestinian liberation that way.

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geneva_convenience lemmy.ml geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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There were Zionists (mainly early socialist Zionists) who believed in coexistence and attempted to uphold the rights of the Palestinians and promote equality. They didn't succeed. I think that this was what Zach was alluding to with his "Zionism isn't necessarily inherently racist" comments. But in practice, the logic of colonialism will inevitably lead to racism, ethnic cleansing and often gen...

It's undeniable that there have been Jews which were trying to live together, especially German Jews which were ethnically cleansed by the Holocaust. However most of these groups show up after 1920, more than 20 years after the Zionist conferences decided on colonizing Palestine and having set the plan in motion (which was already deep into Zionism, they conferred on ethnically cleansing other lands too). The Jews opposing ethnically cleansing Palestinians certainly didn't create Zionism, they were reformists.

The origins of Zionism, and the vast majority of its followers throughout all of Zionist history, have always wanted to ethnically cleanse Palestinians and colonize their land because Palestinians are not "racially Jewish" according to them.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
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Really glad to see the swing the greens have taken since Polanski became leader. Only significant party that seems to be willing to any stance opposing Israel.

It's not even that controversial a stance, it's just Labour have decided that it is and are acting like it's an unacceptable belief even though it's a perfectly reasonable non-radical position to take.

It's no different then saying you oppose apartheid or US bullishness or Chinese expansionism. It doesn't matter that it's Israel's official position (the position of a war criminal no less), we are still allowed to make judgements on it and that not be anti-Semitic.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
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This was exactly my response when someone told me that “from the river to the sea” is hate speech calling for eradicating Israel. Only a zio could view Palestinian liberation that way.

Zionism is as much a victim complex as anything else. Anything that isn't overly pro Israel (as in they get everything they want no matter how much it may hurt other people), is anti Israel according to them.

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NickwithaC lemmy.world NickwithaC@lemmy.world
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Weird meme to use for this but sure.

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ohulancutash feddit.uk ohulancutash@feddit.uk
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Really glad to see the swing the greens have taken since Polanski became leader. Only significant party that seems to be willing to any stance opposing Israel.

Polanski was on TV recently defending Zionism though.

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Tenebris Nox feddit.uk tenebrisnox@feddit.uk
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It's not even that controversial a stance, it's just Labour have decided that it is and are acting like it's an unacceptable belief even though it's a perfectly reasonable non-radical position to take. It's no different then saying you oppose apartheid or US bullishness or Chinese expansionism. It doesn't matter that it's Israel's official position (the position of a war criminal no less), we a...

Not too many years ago that right-wing politicians did openly support apartheid and labelled Mandela as a terrorist.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
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Not too many years ago that right-wing politicians did openly support apartheid and labelled Mandela as a terrorist.

But not Labour, the whole point of this dissatisfaction with labour's current direction is that they are going in a route that is entirely not what their voters want.

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Tenebris Nox feddit.uk tenebrisnox@feddit.uk
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But not Labour, the whole point of this dissatisfaction with labour's current direction is that they are going in a route that is entirely not what their voters want.

Completely agree.

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