I'd much rather have to find space for my server than for 1000s of Blu-rays/DVDs/CDs.

- My wife, just before she stole my band shirt

Vinyl has hipster vibes and false audiophile claims. CDs and DVDs dont. They won't be profitable in a few years and then bye bye factories. Just like vhs. I'd still be buying vhs takes if they made them but they dont. Same with CRTs.

Its much less user friendly. I hate the permeation of computers in every aspect of life. When i want to listen to music, I turn on my stereo stack with turntable, 5 disc changer, and reel to reel. So relaxing. Computers have too much going on, updates, notifications, crashes, hard drives dying, blargh. I deal with that all day long. A record or CD is the fastest way to enjoyment without distraction.

I should mention I don't really listen to music outside my home as it will never sound as good as my home speakers. Dynamic music sounds like trash in cars and headphones will never be as good as speakers for spatial recognition. I don't even have wireless earbuds.

Those dont work great and are no longer made,

That's cool I guess. I have a shelf full of switch games. And a NAS full of hundreds of movies, tv shows, audio books, music and more. I'll take digital so long as I'm in control.

The life span of CD/DVD is not on the printed media but on the media we make/made our backups on. Of my many spindles from back in 2k (some disks are almost 25 yrs old), so far maybe 5 disks have gone partially or completely unreadable, lucky I didn't lose much. Baring scratches or other physical damage, the printed disks will last decades where my disks have outlasted prediction

Everything you just said is a HUGE amount more work than my shelf of CDs and just taking one out and popping it in my stereo. Plus then I have the art and lyrics there. No screens.

Nothing beats physical media for simple enjoyment.

This is lemmy. They think every person on earth has a homelab, solely run Linux, only use social media in the fediverse, and host their own matrix server.

They have no idea what real life is like!

CDs and record beat hard drives hands down. Not every damn thing needs a computer attached to it. My home listening setup sure doesn't.

Ssds die randomly without warning. Ask me how I know. Then worrying about all your backups, are they going to work? Are those drives failing? Its a huge headache for a real world person that doesn't spend 24/7 talking about Linux on Lemmy.

Blu Ray is where it's at. Give me some actual quality bitrate baby.

And gets them away from screens!! We don't need more screens in today's world.

I haven't read the article yet, so apologies if this is addressed.

Bluray has always been a niche product in many/most parts of the world, DVD is ubiquitous.

It pains me to say this, but people generally just do not care about the difference in picture quality between the two formats. At least not enough to pay the Bluray premium.

The equipment itself is more expensive, as are the discs. Your subjective "not even much more expensive" is very dismissive of the economic situation for huge numbers of people around the world. It's often $3 - $4 more per disc in a retail setting, sometimes higher. And DVDs go on deep discount far more often in my experience, furthering the cost divide. And the bluray players aren't just more expensive, they're way more troublesome, slower, clunkier, and many/most/all require a stable internet connection (at least periodically) or you'll be locked out of watching your discs.

The money aspect isn't a concern for wealthier households. But, wealthier households tend to have higher adoption rates for stable, reliable, unlimited, high speed internet. They've largely switched to streaming only, and have little to no need for discs and players. They've also got many other entertainment options. They went from DVD to streaming, skipped Bluray.

Poorer households are far more likely to have no/less reliable internet, let alone unlimited data. If you don't have internet, you will be locked out of watching at least some of your blurays. You certainly won't be streaming, at least not regularly and reliably. That $3 - $4 difference in the price of each disc is money for gas or a loaf of bread. The $50 difference in the player is potentially a big financial blow. If you want to watch something cheap, you can find a huge selection of DVDs at the thrift store or even rent for free from the library, or you can pay a little more for the one bluray they have for sale (it's an Adam Sandler comedy from 20 years ago where he dresses up as a woman) and does funny voices.

It's both for me. Some things are either not on BluRay, too rare and expensive, or the transfer on BluRay is actually worse. And besides, any BluRay player is a dvd player too.

Anyway, any physical collecting or pirating needs to encouraged because streaming is such a stupid model now.

Its like going physical you get both with the right ripper

Sony had this bullshit on the ps3 which muted you playing certain sony media. Cinavia

Gross

What are you, Swiss? Australian? Irish?

The same applies.

Planet is choked with guns. They're everywhere and very easy to get. Absolutely no reason you need one that's been churned out by a printer you got on Temu.

And decent resolution: DVD is forever stuck at SD (480p MPEG). While Blu-ray can be UHD (4K HEVC).

You can’t hold your NAS? It actually weighs very slightly more with data on it.

DVD have already polluted and currently exist and are rotting, and need to be ripped to longer term storage, especially for media that is becoming lost and needs a custodian to host so it can be pirated online. A lot of things cannot because no one has it, but it still exists in physical form.

Some may be ok with a whatever resolution streaming service webrip but I want the original dvd HD remaster, before they re-remastered it with only a single layer disk instead of double, messing up the original faithful rerelease that was already anticipated during filming when the show was filmed in HD widescreen film, but originally released in SD for broadcast due to the time. Plus, you can’t webrip the “banned” episodes if they’re not available.

True, but then you gotta rip it and store it

I've always kinda thought about implementing a software and standard for 1080p av1 on DVD. Would be neat as a project, obviously no commercial use would exist.

Either way you can get some really impressive encodes out of av1, really neat tech.

Don't 3D printed guns have normal parts except for the slide and handle which are 3D printed?

That sounds interesting! I've been using AV1 more and more (thanks to SVT-AV1-PSY/-HDR and devs pushing improvements to main). Also enjoying FHD animated AVIF (vs ancient GIF, although gif.ski helps). AV1 video is not as soft as it once was (esp at high bitrates with synthetic film grain), and combined with OPUS audio, it's all wonderful.

Normal blurays are easy to rip. The 4k ones need a drive with hacked firmware.

This has been the biggest and dumbest take I've seen come from the GenZ/GenA crowd. Polaroids were a big hit a few years ago and I can't help but wince at this stuff. Yeah it's cute or whatever to hold it in your hand, but in 1, 5, 10, 30 years...when that photo or DVD is bent/scratched/lost, you'll be kicking yourself in the ass for even bothering with it.

Just pirate your content, take photos with your $1000 phones and print the photos out, and learn to backup your own shit. Buy a 2 bay NAS and backup your shit to it. And then backup your NAS to a cloud like backblaze.

My dad has been doing this since the early 2000s. We have our family photos AND videos from 1990-2026 all backed up on a NAS, which syncs to backblaze. ~600GBs of data. And the cloud backup on backblaze is $7.25 a month for that data.

Literally anyone can go buy a a $200 2-bay NAS, then grab two 1TB hard drives for $40 each. $280 for a NAS that will last you YEARS. And then figure out whatever service you want to backup to for a cloud backup.

that’s why “they (the rich)” want to drive up the price of HDDs so we can’t afford it, so we are tied to their cloud systems forever

That seems like a reach. Hanlon's says they're just buying HDDs for their Artificial Imbecile service.

Yes, and yes. I'm running TrueNAS and I test a restore once a quarter or so, worst case once every 6 months.

I haven't had to do a full restore...so that'll be the true test, but I do have a sister TrueNAS at an off-site location for off-site backups. I went simple with this off-site one and just use Tailscale and Syncthing.

They won’t be profitable in a few years

I just don't know where you get these claims from

In fairness, she looks better in it

Out of curiosity how do you test your restore? Do you just choose a file and try to recover it from backup? I have a synology NAS that I should backup but haven't really looked into the complexities of backing it up.

There is a bit of a romantic feeling in only having a physical copy of a photo though, and Polaroids are the easiest ones to do this with.

I think part of it might be that DVDs are easier to find used or just cheaper new. GenZ isn’t really rolling in cash and in my area for example used stores rarely if ever carry Blu-ray.

While I agree with the general idea, your example prices are no longer valid since storage costs are now through the roof. The best defense of kids using DVDs is that you can borrow them from the library for free.

Your hard drive can be erased in many ways.

I'm willing to bet my main SSD, my backup HDD, my FLAC player's SD card, and my laptop SSD all carrying the same file are going to be more durable than a piece of plastic.

But... those other storage mediums can also get damaged, burn, rot, etc

Sure can. You know what else they can do? Instantly and cleanly copy their data to any other storage device, they can even do so automatically every day!

probably the same reason I refused to let it go.

I actually own it, control it, and can use it at my wimsy.

vs streaming, which I could buy it and still have it taken away from me cause you never own anything when its streaming/digital download.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00519B0UO

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-DH2300-2-Bay-Capacity-Diskless/dp/B0FNWHSPXF

Please at least Google something before talking out of your ass

I cut/paste a single file or folder, depending on my mood, out of a directory that is backed up and then do a PULL/sync through the TrueNAS GUI from Backblaze

Not sure on Synology...I'm sure there is a method though

Please don't use google or amazon

Because they are too computer illiterate to simply download what they want?

I've used CDs with my kid for music, it works well for us too

We are forever fucked over lots of TV shows/movies that are caged within the stream services realm :/

And a NAS full of hundreds of movies, tv shows

This is me, but I made the bad decision of starting with a two bay NAS, my 10 TB filled up fairly quickly (not even 4K media), that is why I recently added to my Arr Stack Decypharr to the equation, and I am kinda impressed how well it behaves with my RD cloud (the content there is prone to disappear due to inactivity, but Decypharr has certain tools to avoid that to happen).

And that's completely valid, but I just want to warn others that physical items deteriorate.

I'm currently digitally archiving photos of my great-great grandparents. You know how disappointing it is to have these photos, but then see they are all water damaged or torn or crumbled to all hell because of improper storage? Some scans are ok, others are terrible and will require work on my end to restore them digitally.

I'm sure we have thousands of digital photos of ourselves, but how many of those are backed up properly? How many of us will be regretting not backing things up properly and we can't share these photos with our grandkids or great grandkids or to reminisce because our phones died or Instagram shutdown or we stopped paying for iCloud?

All I'm saying is take your Polaroids, but also take plenty of digital photos and back them up as well.

The resurgence of vinyl was understandable as the sound exhibits a warmth and depth

Only because it is adds pleasing artifacts to the original and people connect a turn table up to something to listen to it with. When used to hearing crappy encoded digital, with a bad DAC through lossy bluetooth to a tiny speaker, vinyl sounds better.

Funny thing is that you can record vinyl digitally and that recording will sound exactly the same on good equipment which tells you it isn't the vinyl itself that sounds good.

In any case vinyl is extremely disappointing to see come back. It is a very energy intensive process, using PVC often mixed with lead. It is very heavy and bulky to move around, so transportation costs are high.

I understand the desire to have a physical thing, but only its flaws make it be a reproduction of the source material AND is environmentally not good.