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St. Paul City Council passes ordinance prohibiting law enforcement from wearing masks
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silence7 slrpnk.net silence7@slrpnk.net
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The real question is whether cops are willing to enforce this — in most places they've refused to arrest ICE or Border Patrol for on-duty actions except in cases of nepotism.

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human slrpnk.net human@slrpnk.net
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I just hope DHS isn't willing to break any laws. /j

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silence7 slrpnk.net silence7@slrpnk.net
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I just hope DHS isn't willing to break any laws. /j

The big question isn't whether they'll break the law: it's whether they've alienated the local police enough that they'll do something besides look the other way.

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doug lemmy.today doug@lemmy.today
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Watch another plague breakout just so they have an excuse to wear them again 😩 (not that the first one ever ended)

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NekoKoneko lemmy.world NekoKoneko@lemmy.world
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Per the local government's ordinance summary, this is a criminal ordinance and it's effective 30 days after passage, signature by mayor and publication in the City's newspaper. So soonest will be late March.

I agree the question is whether the cops will enforce, but regardless, it should be done. And it gives a clear tool to local leaders to (hopefully, finally) flip the switch and start arresting ICE for criminal acts, since whatever Stephen Miller says, ICE does not have "absolute immunity" to break the law, much less violate the Constitution.

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human slrpnk.net human@slrpnk.net
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The big question isn't whether they'll break the law: it's whether they've alienated the local police enough that they'll do something besides look the other way.

If the Minneapolis local authorities can't get access to investigate ICE murder scenes I'm not optimistic that St. Paul cops will get much traction getting individual storm troupers to remove masks or pay fines.

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CharlesDarwin lemmy.world CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
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If the Minneapolis local authorities can't get access to investigate ICE murder scenes I'm not optimistic that St. Paul cops will get much traction getting individual storm troupers to remove masks or pay fines.

I'm picturing something like:

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Steve startrek.website Steve@startrek.website
Joined: 2023-10-08
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Too bad they cant make a law against murder

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MinnesotaGoddam lemmy.world HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
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Watch another plague breakout just so they have an excuse to wear them again 😩 (not that the first one ever ended)

current plague is: ringworm

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Voroxpete sh.itjust.works Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-07
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Per the local government's ordinance summary, this is a criminal ordinance and it's effective 30 days after passage, signature by mayor and publication in the City's newspaper. So soonest will be late March. I agree the question is whether the cops will enforce, but regardless, it should be done. And it gives a clear tool to local leaders to (hopefully, finally) flip the switch and start arrest...

It also sets a template for how other cities can pre-emptively ICE proof themselves.

It's pretty widely acknowledged, even by ICE and DHS, that most agents would basically rather quit than work unmasked. They know they're pariahs. Anonymity is the only protection they have.

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NekoKoneko lemmy.world NekoKoneko@lemmy.world
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It also sets a template for how other cities can pre-emptively ICE proof themselves. It's pretty widely acknowledged, even by ICE and DHS, that most agents would basically rather quit than work unmasked. They know they're pariahs. Anonymity is the only protection they have.

Yeah, it's such a simple psychological judo move to force them not to wear masks. I really think it would be extremely effective in preventing a lot of violence.

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