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President Donald Trump bans Anthropic from use in government systems
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iegod lemmy.zip ieGod@lemmy.zip
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#52 · Quote Reply

The US is an embarrassment.

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Frozengyro lemmy.world Frozengyro@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-03
#53 · Quote Reply

I'm just so tired of seeing 1984 and Brazil and Idiocracy and every other political warning and satire played out in the real world every goddamn day of my life

You forgot wargames

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desertdruid lemmy.blahaj.zone desertdruid@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-08-14
#54 · Quote Reply

When the AI company only wants to be 99% Hitler (They're okay with their bot recommending bombing minorities overseas, but they don't want to be held liable when it pushes the button and the bomb comes down in America instead)

"we programmed the AI leopards to not eat our faces"

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ZoteTheMighty lemmy.zip ZoteTheMighty@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-27
#55 · Quote Reply

You have to realize, what exactly Anthropic refused: To extend the current contract to two things: Autonomous Weapons (AI deciding on firing weapons to kill humans) AI-powered mass surveillance of american citizens refusing those two things makes it to be the only AI company that is ""radical left"". Now Google, OpenAI or Grok will do what Anthropic has done already, plus mass surveillance plus...

And Anthropic refused? Surely they must be the evil ones!

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[object Object] lemmy.ca panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-20
#56 · Quote Reply

He doesn't say anything about breaking a signed contract. Simply that Anthropic will be phased out and no longer used by the government. As a corollary, I doubt Anthropic's contract will be renewed when the current one expires. Edit: Grammar

They deemed them a supply chain vulnerability.

That’s not the same as choosing not to renew a contract.

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Liberal_Ghost lemmy.zip Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-03-11
#57 · Quote Reply

Just signed up for a $20/mo Claude Pro subscription. Money better spent than any donation I've ever sent a politician.

Um.....Anthropic is still a bad company, just not as bad as the rest. Haha

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yucandu lemmy.world yucandu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#58 · Quote Reply

When the AI company only wants to be 99% Hitler (They're okay with their bot recommending bombing minorities overseas, but they don't want to be held liable when it pushes the button and the bomb comes down in America instead)

Moral absolutism benefits only the status-quo.

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Godzilla8NJ discuss.online Godzilla8NJ@discuss.online
Joined: 2023-07-01
#59 · Quote Reply

Um.....Anthropic is still a bad company, just not as bad as the rest. Haha

It's way past time to stop letting perfect be the enemy of the good. Anthrorphic told the orange baby and his bully brigade "no." That'd be worth $20 bucks to me if they were Nestle.

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Lost_My_Mind lemmy.world Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-07
#60 · Quote Reply

it will be Trump unless someone deals with him in 6 months

Oh. Didn't realize the contracts were just 6 months long. I thought they were more like 10 years or something.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#61 · Quote Reply

How can anyone read this shit and not cringe?

that's my president, he tells it like it is!

Trump supporters who wear Trump that bitch shirts proudly

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ZC3rr0r piefed.ca ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-06-07
#62 · Quote Reply

Reports of Anthropic's moral fiber have been greatly exaggerated: Leaked Slack Messages Show CEO of “Ethical AI” Startup Anthropic Saying It’s Okay to Benefit Dictators Anthropic’s CEO admits compromising with authoritarian regimes to secure AI funding Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei backs President Trump on AI policy, pushes back on criticism Anthropic publicly praised President Trump’s AI Action P...

Oh, I am not saying they're not still opportunistic money-chasers. Hence the comment about there not being any good AI companies. To me though, their reluctance on some topics and honest admissions on the capabilities of their AI make it appear that they less happy to throw all principals overboard in the race to win the AI market than the likes of Google, Microsoft, and Musk.

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goferking (he/him) lemmy.sdf.org goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-08-03
#63 · Quote Reply

Literally none of those words are hyperbole either. This comment is closer to factual reporting than what's left on American TVs.

It's also just reasons they vote and support him

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#64 · Quote Reply

You must bend the knee to Pedolini

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#65 · (edited) Quote Reply

You have to realize, what exactly Anthropic refused: To extend the current contract to two things: Autonomous Weapons (AI deciding on firing weapons to kill humans) AI-powered mass surveillance of american citizens refusing those two things makes it to be the only AI company that is ""radical left"". Now Google, OpenAI or Grok will do what Anthropic has done already, plus mass surveillance plus...

It’s crazy how not only ethics but now safety is “radically left”

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-04
#66 · Quote Reply

They deemed them a supply chain vulnerability. That’s not the same as choosing not to renew a contract.

Trump and Hegseth tried two different things simultaneously. They tried to deem Anthropic both a hostile actor, which would cut all DoD contracts off completely, and then also tried to declare them essential and force them to ignore the safety limits set forth in the contract, which is the supply chain thing.

So yeah, the incompetence is showing as it always is.

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Liberal_Ghost lemmy.zip Liberal_Ghost@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-03-11
#67 · Quote Reply

It's way past time to stop letting perfect be the enemy of the good. Anthrorphic told the orange baby and his bully brigade "no." That'd be worth $20 bucks to me if they were Nestle.

Fair point.
I wish all the AI companies would go belly up, but that is not realistic at this point

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Zwuzelmaus feddit.org Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-12-14
#68 · Quote Reply

He doesn't say anything about breaking a signed contract. Simply that Anthropic will be phased out and no longer used by the government. As a corollary, I doubt Anthropic's contract will be renewed when the current one expires. Edit: Grammar

He doesn't say anything about breaking a signed contract

Ofc he wouldn't say that, especially if it's true LOL

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Frank lemmy.ca frankring@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-01-19
#69 · Quote Reply

I know which AI chatbot to use now. Thank you Donald!

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AndyMFK lemmy.dbzer0.com AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-09
#70 · Quote Reply

I know which AI chatbot to use now. Thank you Donald!

Trick question. The answer is none of them

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thlibos thelemmy.club thlibos@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#71 · Quote Reply

He is like a spoiled child, just like his shitstain cabinet. I wish there were some way we could identify those who voted for him in 2016, 2020, or 2024 and tattoo an orange T on their foreheads so they could never go anywhere again without ridicule and harassment.

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DarkSpectrum lemmy.world DarkSpectrum@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#72 · Quote Reply

I love how he thinks capitalising a word gives it some kind of magical authority.

or I will use the Full Power (TM) of the Presidency (LLC)

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atrielienz lemmy.world atrielienz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-05
#73 · Quote Reply

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America hasn't won a war (or conflict even) since WW2.

He's a man shaped entity with the brain of a dementia riddled geriatric because that's exactly what he is. That man has so many health conditions the only reason he's not dead is they're fighting over who gets to kill him.

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Pup Biru aussie.zone pupbiru@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-12-29
#74 · Quote Reply

Um.....Anthropic is still a bad company, just not as bad as the rest. Haha

that as the case may be, sending signals is still good. you don’t have to continue for very long, but a flood of support after making a moral decision will make it more likely that they, and others will make similar decisions in the future

the worst thing would be for google for example to see the fallout from this and think “well we don’t want to be them! better start building autonomous weapons”

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FlashMobOfOne lemmy.world FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#75 · (edited) Quote Reply

This is the kind of stuff I think about whenever a Democrat tries to tell me that Biden or Obama were powerless.

They could have done this to the makers of assault rifles in order to spur greater regulation in the wake of mass shootings. After all, they're certainly contracted with various federal entities.

That is, if they gave a shit.

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Frank lemmy.ca frankring@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-01-19
#76 · Quote Reply

Trick question. The answer is none of them

Not sure if you're anti-AI or something, but I intend to use chatbots.
To me, it is now like this: local > claude > everything else

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MissesAutumnRains lemmy.blahaj.zone MissesAutumnRains@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-11-04
#77 · Quote Reply

The absurdity to claim that Anthropic is strong-arming the DoD and forcing them to do anything when just the other day it was reported that the DoD was threatening this exact action if Anthropic didn't comply with their demands is laughable.

It feels like a pretty low bar to clear to tell this orange fuck to piss off, but at least one of the AI companies has a spine.

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TheReturnOfPEB reddthat.com TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com
Joined: 2024-05-01
#78 · Quote Reply

I wonder if Trump would allow copyright claims against anthropic now

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RxBrad infosec.pub RxBrad@infosec.pub
Joined: 2024-08-04
#79 · Quote Reply

Silver lining, this might actually cause the bubble to pop

Seriously, we need to convince him that all of the AI companies are saying mean things about him. Then maybe we might be able to afford RAM.

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ToTheGraveMyLove sh.itjust.works ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-29
#80 · Quote Reply

IMMEDIATELY CEASE all use of Anthropic’s technology

There will be a Six Month phase out period

What a fucking moron.

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Bronzebeard lemmy.zip Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-01
#81 · Quote Reply

So they signed a contract, decided they don't like the terms, now they're trying to extort Anthropic and gaslighting to claim Anthropic is strong arming them? I fucking hate this administration man.

This is exactly what he did with every single trade deal he spent the last year working on. It's a pattern of behavior.

And basically why we're where we are with Iran.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

Talk in other comment sections suggests this means Nvidia (or AMD, or Cerebras, or Intel or anyone) can’t legally supply Anthropic with hardware.

So it effectively kills Anthropic? And that would sink the stock market.

As at the other extreme, a lot of Big Tech (like Palantir) is heavily reliant on Anthropic, which would unsettle the oligarchs and likely force Trump to walk back.


I don’t know if this is true, but this does smell like one of Trumps many “unenforceable tweets”

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#83 · (edited) Quote Reply

The absurdity to claim that Anthropic is strong-arming the DoD and forcing them to do anything when just the other day it was reported that the DoD was threatening this exact action if Anthropic didn't comply with their demands is laughable. It feels like a pretty low bar to clear to tell this orange fuck to piss off, but at least one of the AI companies has a spine.

Anthropic is self righteous and self serving.

Like, I like local LLMs more than most, and Anthropic models are great at the moment, but don’t mistake Anthropic for having a spine.

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ColeSloth discuss.tchncs.de ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-08-18
#84 · Quote Reply

So they signed a contract, decided they don't like the terms, now they're trying to extort Anthropic and gaslighting to claim Anthropic is strong arming them? I fucking hate this administration man.

The funniest and dumbest part of this is how he doesn't want the "radical left AI making military decisions..... When what he was pissed about is the denial of anthropic in making the final military decision to launch missiles and fire weapons to kill.

So he's pissed at what was allowed, and he's pissed at what wasn't allowed?

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#85 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not sure if you're anti-AI or something, but I intend to use chatbots. To me, it is now like this: local > claude > everything else

That’s basically always been the case anyway, except for Gemini for long context, perhaps.

And, of couse, prioritize open models over API. It’s:

Open training models > open weights models > restrictively licensed open models > open weights models over API > Claude/Gemini

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Ulrich feddit.org Ulrich@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-12-22
#86 · Quote Reply

The absurdity to claim that Anthropic is strong-arming the DoD and forcing them to do anything when just the other day it was reported that the DoD was threatening this exact action if Anthropic didn't comply with their demands is laughable. It feels like a pretty low bar to clear to tell this orange fuck to piss off, but at least one of the AI companies has a spine.

Every day I am more astounded that anyone voted for this absolute moron.

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B-TR3E feddit.org b_tr3e@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-22
#87 · Quote Reply

How can anyone read this shit and not cringe?

Even by Trump's standards it seems quite unhinged, indeed. Sounds bat shit crazy, tbh.

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RamRabbit lemmy.world RamRabbit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-16
#88 · (edited) Quote Reply

They deemed them a supply chain vulnerability. That’s not the same as choosing not to renew a contract.

They deemed them a supply chain vulnerability.

This is the justification for phasing them out and (presumably) not renewing the contract. Happens all the time. Usually with less angry internet posts and more quiet paper pushing.

It's one of the reasons DoD things can be expensive. DoD contractors aren't allowed to use the cheap Chinese supplier, for example.

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IronBird lemmy.world IronBird@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-06
#89 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah. A good thick slice of Anarchism might be what we need to reset things. That is Anarchism, with capital "A", the anti-authority ideology.

wanton violence doesn't really work, this has been tried before. you need precise and well thought out violence. last i bothered to check, something like 70-80% of the $ behind far-right america comes from like <20 people (<100 if you extrapolate that out to the world).

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OctopusNemeses lemmy.world OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-07-24
#90 · Quote Reply

How can anyone read this shit and not cringe?

They're not reading but looking for keywords. People with low literacy do that.

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BrianTheeBiscuiteer lemmy.world BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#91 · Quote Reply

Republicans used to be against governments that told businesses how they should be run. 🙄

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Imgonnatrythis sh.itjust.works Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-09-23
#92 · Quote Reply

Anthropic is self righteous and self serving. Like, I like local LLMs more than most, and Anthropic models are great at the moment, but don’t mistake Anthropic for having a spine.

I'm betting this ends with Amthropic somehow giving him money.

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thejml sh.itjust.works thejml@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-16
#93 · Quote Reply

HE IS A DEMENTED RAPIST CONMAN

You forgot Pedo and Felon... not that anyone cares. Honestly at this point he could sign his emails with that list and people would still vote him in and back him.

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thejml sh.itjust.works thejml@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-16
#94 · Quote Reply

Seriously, we need to convince him that all of the AI companies are saying mean things about him. Then maybe we might be able to afford RAM.

Grok will end up with the contract. Even with their back and forth relationship, there's no way Elon doesn't love this outcome and capitalize on it.

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AndyMFK lemmy.dbzer0.com AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#95 · Quote Reply

Not sure if you're anti-AI or something, but I intend to use chatbots. To me, it is now like this: local &gt; claude &gt; everything else

If they weren't guzzling the worlds water supply, and using the electricity of a small nation, and didn't steal small creators works, and weren't hijacking the worlds supply of RAM, and wasn't causing a bubble that will wreak havoc on the global economy, and it wasn't causing people to go into psychosis by encouraging delusional thoughts, than i probably wouldn't be against it.

Other than those issues it seems fine, but until those are addressed, I'm pretty anti-ai

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Hazzard lemmy.zip Hazzard@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-28
#96 · Quote Reply

Anthropic is self righteous and self serving. Like, I like local LLMs more than most, and Anthropic models are great at the moment, but don’t mistake Anthropic for having a spine.

I mean... this is losing them a 200 million dollar contract. And to one of their competitors who will gladly acquiesce, so it's hard to argue that this benefits them.

Good marketing to a bunch of left-wing people who hate AI, I guess, but that feels like Elon joining the Trump administration in hopes of selling Teslas to rednecks, it might work on a few, but I just can't imagine this is 4D chess that will make them a fortune when they're abandoning that much money immediately.

Their statement also came after the DOW threatened to put them on the list of companies that are totally banned from doing any business in America, usually reserved for Chinese companies that are deemed a national security threat, which would make it illegal for any company doing business in America to do any business with them, as they'd be added to the same list, which would have essentially killed Anthropic as a business entirely.

You don't have to love Anthropic because they did a good thing, they were fine with anything less than automatic killing and mass surveillance, after all, but I don't think it's correct to say this was sneaky and spineless somehow.

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Jolteon lemmy.zip Jolteon@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-10-25
#97 · Quote Reply

Every day I am more astounded that anyone voted for this absolute moron.

Unfortunately, I'm not surprised in the least.

During his first term, he wasn't nearly as unhinged as he was during this term, because he was still building his cult, which he continued doing after he lost the 2020 election. With the 2024 election, virtually everything lined up in his favor. The Democratic candidate was somebody who had not even been in the primaries, the size of his cult was at an all-time high, and the political division was even further increased from 2016. Even with all that in his favor, he still didn't show his most unhinged ideas until after the election.

Anybody with a reasonable amount of intelligence would obviously have voted against him, but forward thinking doesn't seem to be a common trait these days.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#98 · Quote Reply

I mean... this is losing them a 200 million dollar contract. And to one of their competitors who will gladly acquiesce, so it's hard to argue that this benefits them. Good marketing to a bunch of left-wing people who hate AI, I guess, but that feels like Elon joining the Trump administration in hopes of selling Teslas to rednecks, it might work on a few, but I just can't imagine this is 4D ches...

Eh, the context I was thinking of is that they are constantly playing “safety theatre” where it absolutely doesn’t matter. They’ve tried to kill open models and basically capture regulators by misleading or outright lying, for their benefit.

In other words, this is a case of “a broken clock is right sometimes,” and I think they knew Trump will back down.

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Hazzard lemmy.zip Hazzard@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-28
#99 · Quote Reply

Eh, the context I was thinking of is that they are constantly playing “safety theatre” where it absolutely doesn’t matter. They’ve tried to kill open models and basically capture regulators by misleading or outright lying, for their benefit. In other words, this is a case of “a broken clock is right sometimes,” and I think they knew Trump will back down.

Fair, I definitely haven't simped for them in the past just because they post some good articles on AI safety.

Although... I'll say of them, they seem more like what OpenAI should be, actually trying to implement AI responsibly, and freely sharing that information. It's good research, even if marketing is the motivation. Meanwhile OpenAI, the "charity" that's supposed to guide us to a responsible AI future, moved their most addictive and mentally dangerous model to the highest paid tier instead of actually killing it until very recently.

Although at the end of the day, Anthropic is a for-profit company, in a better world they wouldn't have released models publicly before this research was actually done and pressing dangers like AI psychosis were actually safeguarded against. Better late than never, sure, but the whole industry has done a lot of damage already, and the work of resolving the issues still isn't even close to done.

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Logi lemmy.world logi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-08
#100 · Quote Reply

that's my president, he tells it like it is! Trump supporters who wear Trump that bitch shirts proudly

Add a comma and I might wear it.

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-25
#101 · Quote Reply

Dude, this just gave Anthropic so much credibility. They can literally own the entire AI market now.

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