That's the goal, once you can't outright afford the hardware what do you think happens?

Subscriptions of course, much like the phone "contracts" of today, now you can rent a PC, or better yet subscribe to a cloud instance of a PC.

You'd still need to subscribe to the LLM of course, but that'd be easier if it was bundled with your cloud computer subscription.

Then comes the software bundles, because they can't just have you installing whatever you want on their cloud machines, that's leaving money on the table.

Eventually with the next generation, or the one after that it will become normalised, just another thing you can't own because fuck you, that's why.

FML: i scroll down maybe 10 posts and this : https://programming.dev/post/46457240

of course his PROFILE picture is ai GENERATED. i cringe at that cartoonish look that my older bro does with pictures.

at first its a pimple, but now its a boil, and growing to a bigger infection, once it pops it will reach the bloodstream.

well they are passing around money to each other over and over again, until there is none.

they are peddling to india apparently, where modi is giving them a free place to build, because the states is showing some resistance.

Yes, that's now I got all the HDDs for my NAS. No remorse stealing from Bezos

Last October I built a new PC for the first time in a solid decade. My aging Intel 6700k has served me well. I had no idea of the missile barrage that I dodged by upgrading when I did.

$110b pumped into a company that's literally never made a cent.

But it makes the line go up.

A hundred billion? I don't actually know, but that seems too high. I've worked as an automation engineer in a bunch of factories and know that you can get a fairly complex fairly large factory for 9 figures. I know semiconductors are complicated but so are a lot of things. I'd guess it's closer to a billion depending on scale/size/location.

5 years to start up a factory is fast, but doable.

Thin clients for all!

Honestly we can get the same effect with one large ax and a stump.

I'm an idiot, that goes without saying, but I think that if anything needs another round of investment AND that extra investment is 110 billion of any decently used currency then maybe, just maybe, something is fundamentally wrong with the product in the first place.
However, like I said, I'm an idiot so what do I know.

Don't be so hard on yourself. Have you heard Altman talk about anything? It'll make most conscious people feel less bad about themselves.

I dunno... that requires some training to operate, and it's REALLY horrid when you miss...

How long until new production lines are built?

Their current business model depends on keeping the AI hype going on, so from their perspective it is a good investment.

the hype is the business. scams can be business models.

This is absolutely insane to me. AI is destroying society.

Now is the time to stand by your principles. And if you don't have principles, maybe raise some. Become anti-consumption and remove yourself from capitalism, as much as possible. Hate those people. You should hate them as much as possible.

That and getting people so hooked on AI that they actually can't use their own brains, and are forced to use it as the price climbs higher and higher to make it profitable

Even micro SD cards have got crazy expensive.

I think some CEOs are starting to slowly realise how unpopular AI is with the public. But at this point their sink costs are astronomical.

Hype amongst the public seems to be waning. Look at the woman who recently took over Xbox assuring people it wouldn't get filled with AI slop. They're starting to realise people don't want the shit they're selling. But it's not like the markets have any correlation with reality.

I was shopping for laptop ram recently, it was like a turd fight in a shitstorm. Eventually decided to make do with what I have.

They want to destroy society, and build a new one in its place. Preferably one, that comes without this pesky feature called "empathy".

How much more will DoD pump into it now?

This. Softbank are probably the only ones providing actual cash of $30bn to pay employees.

"AWS to provide OpenAI with Amazon EC2 UltraServers, featuring hundreds of thousands of chips, and the ability to scale to tens of millions of CPUs for its advanced generative AI workloads"

Nivida's investment is measured in GW so that tells you all you need to know.

OpenAI has made revenue.

It hasn't made profit.

"🤓☝️" everyone knows what they mean

Also it puts up less of a show.

The only way to stop the bubble from bursting is to inflate it even more. Absolutely sable business plan they got there...

OpenAI literally makes billions of dollars.

Its been so since 4o Image released.

Wait, you read a CEO statement and believed her? Watch as everything she said turns out to be false. This is an old corporate tactic, put women in power positions just to push them under a bus. Her job is to kill Xbox and take the fall. Microsoft doesn't want a gaming division anymore. This is why all they do is shutdown studios. They only got in because they feared Sony consoles would compete as cheap computers on the corporate market. It was never meant to go this far.

Sometimes smart thoughts chasing us are so fast that we can't escape them.

Yes.

RAM, like fines for breaking the law, is only for the rich elites.

Yes they do, but when someone says "thats never made a cent" they dont mean revenue, they mean profit and everyone can understand that they mean profit so there's no need to point put that revenue ≠ profit.

Two large pieces of wood, and a few 9-inch nails.

Per billionaire.

I didn't believe her, of course not. But the fact she said it shows they are aware people don't want their AI bullshit.

The underlying message: We want to replace as many of you disgusting human workers as possible.

In five years, an unemployment rate of under 5% will be an historical anomaly. Double digit unemployment rates will be normal, permanent, and accepted.

Unemployment, homelessness, and debt will be illegal, and those who have committed those crimes, or require government assistance for food, housing, health care, etc., will be housed in the detainment centers, and leased out to corporations as slave labor, under the 13th Amendment.

Of course, that will increase unemployment even more, creating even more slave workers. Eventually we will have more unemployed slave workers than corporations require (they still prefer AI and robotic workers), and then the MAGA government will be faced with a permanent surplus of unemployable people in the camps, eating, getting sick, reproducing, spreading rumors, plotting escapes and uprisings, etc.

What are they going to do with all those excess useless people they despise? I wonder what Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller would suggest?

when someone says "thats never made a cent" they dont mean revenue, they mean profit

No. The statement is ambiguous. I provided clarification.

A counter example to prove my point. No-one claims that Uber has never made a cent.

Sam Altman is a money launderer. he's just holding the money so everyone else can say they don't have money

I had 32GB ranked ram and one stick failed. I now have 16GB now.

I use my computer so seldomly that I honestly don't care. When it dies I won't be replacing it at all. The Internet quit being fun and interesting a decade ago and my smart phone is a time suck that makes it too easy not to practice music and only brings news that spoils my mood. I genuinely miss the all analog life. Thanks for reminding me. I'm going to go say hi to a stringed instrument now.

I need a new screwdriver. Do you make screwdrivers?

my smart phone is a time suck that makes it too easy not to practice music

I felt this on a personal and professional level

So this should satisfy Sam Altman's hunger for a week?

This came from looking up how much people are currently spending to build a ram fab. It's worth remembering that the tools used are very complex and are also impacted by the massive spike in semiconductor prices.

https://www.blackridgeresearch.com/project-profiles/tsmc-arizona-fab-united-states-us-details-cost-expansion-latest-update

https://www.eteknix.com/micron-begins-construction-of-its-massive-ram-factory-in-new-york-to-help-prevent-shortages-by-2030/

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/intel-delays-usd100-billion-ohio-site-to-next-decade-first-fab-now-coming-online-in-2030

They're quite literally making some of the most complicated and intricate things on the planet.
The vast majority of the cost is tools, and when the price of those spikes due to shortage the cost goes up insanely fast.

Cost estimates from even a just a few years ago have the cost being $10 to $20 billion.