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PolarKraken lemmy.dbzer0.com PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#52 · Quote Reply

You can still get good stuff, just gotta go glass bottle and pure cane sugar, avoid cans and HFCS. Unfortunately you're correct that there's no longer sassafras, in the 60s the FDA banned sassafras because it contains safrole, a chemical that has been classified as a carcinogen. That said they still get as close as they can to replicating it somehow, and brands like IBC are still good. Sasparil...

Fun fact (which you probably know), sassafras grows all over the US and is easy to identify, and you very much can simply dig up a root and chew on it :)

Not exactly the same experience as the soda, to be sure, lol. I don't think most folks would enjoy it. But it's fun and a little trippy having grown up finding that flavor in cans and cups, to later go pull it outta some dirt.

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ArcaneSlime lemmy.dbzer0.com ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-30
#53 · Quote Reply

Fun fact (which you probably know), sassafras grows all over the US and is easy to identify, and you very much can simply dig up a root and chew on it :) Not exactly the same experience as the soda, to be sure, lol. I don't think most folks would enjoy it. But it's fun and a little trippy having grown up finding that flavor in cans and cups, to later go pull it outta some dirt.

I have thought about making my own illegal root beer for personal consumption using wild sassafras but just never went anywhere with it lol. Never thought about just chewing the root though, might have to!

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thessnake03 lemmy.world thessnake03@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#54 · Quote Reply

Is that the same company that has those glass soda bottles in variously expensive takeaways?

I'm not sure. Could be

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MIDItheKID lemmy.world MIDItheKID@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-22
#55 · Quote Reply

Fun fact (which you probably know), sassafras grows all over the US and is easy to identify, and you very much can simply dig up a root and chew on it :) Not exactly the same experience as the soda, to be sure, lol. I don't think most folks would enjoy it. But it's fun and a little trippy having grown up finding that flavor in cans and cups, to later go pull it outta some dirt.

I remember when I was a kid we would go on "nature walks" at summer camp (hiking, but with 7 year olds, so more like a leasurly stroll in the woods). Our camp counselor would show us where sassafras root was and we would pull some up, rinse it in the river, and chew on it whole we walked around. I always loved it. I was like "this plant tastes like root beer!" not knowing that it was the other way around.

I'm sure everything I just described is completely banned and possibly illegal in modern summer camps.

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hardcoreufo lemmy.world hardcoreufo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#56 · Quote Reply

There's also 'birch beer,' little known outside of Pennsylvania

I always had A-Treat Birch Beer and the red cream soda when I visited my grandparents in PA.

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DagwoodIII piefed.social DagwoodIII@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-17
#57 · Quote Reply

I always had A-Treat Birch Beer and the red cream soda when I visited my grandparents in PA.

Red cream soda??

NYC here. I've had vanilla cream soda, but not this red cream of which you speak.

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SaveTheTuaHawk lemmy.ca SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-07
#58 · Quote Reply

Modern american root beer is just sugar syrup like cola because there is little to no sarsaparilla in it which is what is supposed to add the flavour. Modern american root beer is to true root beer what modern american ginger ale is to Jamaican ginger beer.

Sasparilla extract contains high levels of safrole, a potent carcinogen.

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Doublenut lemmy.zip Doublenut@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-07
#59 · Quote Reply

OP I don't want to spoil your good time, but you deserve to know, not all root beer is the same! I do not know this brand, but the line between "bad" root beer and "good" root beer seems to be clearly split by a single ingredient: "Bad" contains high fructose corn syrup, "good" contains pure cane sugar. You should be able to check the ingredients on the can, and most with pure cane sugar proudl...

I'm an avid root beed drinker and I wish I could agree the HFCS v cane was the defining difference between good and bad root beer I find there are still some that use cane sugar and are still not great. These are on whole better than any of the HFCS ones but still not created equal. Unfortunately I'm not sure what it is that makes the big difference, but I do find smaller batch companies that do still use other root oils and extracts to be the best.
You may also be able to find birch beer in the EU and I find that more akin to OG rootbeer flavors.

Also a note on OP's family experience, I find in America the devide on people who like it and don't also seems to fall along gender lines. I can think of maybe 4 women in my life that can even stand the taste of root beer.

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AFallingAnvil lemmy.ca AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca
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#60 · Quote Reply

To give you additional context: root beers can vary pretty strongly by brand. Here in Canada some brands lean into the licorice, others the dryness, and others still play around with levels/type of sweeteners. A&W, Barqs, and Mug would be the three root beer brands I think best show you the spectrum the drink can have.

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Multiplexer discuss.tchncs.de Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
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#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

To give you additional context: root beers can vary pretty strongly by brand. Here in Canada some brands lean into the licorice, others the dryness, and others still play around with levels/type of sweeteners. A&W, Barqs, and Mug would be the three root beer brands I think best show you the spectrum the drink can have.

But the Sarsaparilla base aroma is the same for all, I assume?

That was the most interesting part for us, as it is basically unknown here and we had no idea what it tastes like.

Guess kinda like all the woodruff flavored stuff not known outside of Germany - there are differences between individual dishes, but the interesting part for foreigners would be the exotic base taste itself...

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ArcaneSlime lemmy.dbzer0.com ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#62 · Quote Reply

I'm an avid root beed drinker and I wish I could agree the HFCS v cane was the defining difference between good and bad root beer I find there are still some that use cane sugar and are still not great. These are on whole better than any of the HFCS ones but still not created equal. Unfortunately I'm not sure what it is that makes the big difference, but I do find smaller batch companies that d...

I agree I still have my preferred cane sugar option as well and imo the others are "less good" than it, but I'd still drink them where the HFCS ones aren't even worth my time. Birch beer rules too.

Haven't noticed a gender divide myself, though. Might have to start paying attention to that lol.

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Doublenut lemmy.zip Doublenut@lemmy.zip
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#63 · Quote Reply

I agree I still have my preferred cane sugar option as well and imo the others are "less good" than it, but I'd still drink them where the HFCS ones aren't even worth my time. Birch beer rules too. Haven't noticed a gender divide myself, though. Might have to start paying attention to that lol.

Agreed the HFCS aren't worth it, might as well have a coke.

What is your preferred?

I could definitely be wrong about the gender divide, its just something I've noticed in my own life.

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ArcaneSlime lemmy.dbzer0.com ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#64 · Quote Reply

Agreed the HFCS aren't worth it, might as well have a coke. What is your preferred? I could definitely be wrong about the gender divide, its just something I've noticed in my own life.

I prefer IBC personally, but will drink any pure cane. The only one I really don't like is frostee (or something like that) but imo it's just too sweet, they just put too much pure cane sugar in lol. Not that it is bad, I'd have loved it as a kid! Which is your preferred?

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Doublenut lemmy.zip Doublenut@lemmy.zip
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#65 · Quote Reply

I prefer IBC personally, but will drink any pure cane. The only one I really don't like is frostee (or something like that) but imo it's just too sweet, they just put too much pure cane sugar in lol. Not that it is bad, I'd have loved it as a kid! Which is your preferred?

Funny I had the exact same thoughts on frostee.

I also prefer IBC (their black cherry soda is pretty tasty too) as the most accessible brand but if I can get my hands on it my favorite is from red hare brewing company. Unfortunately I think they may not exist any more.

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ArcaneSlime lemmy.dbzer0.com ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-30
#66 · Quote Reply

Funny I had the exact same thoughts on frostee. I also prefer IBC (their black cherry soda is pretty tasty too) as the most accessible brand but if I can get my hands on it my favorite is from red hare brewing company. Unfortunately I think they may not exist any more.

Never heard of Red Hare, but if they are still open I'll keep my eye out!

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hardcoreufo lemmy.world hardcoreufo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#67 · Quote Reply

Red cream soda?? NYC here. I've had vanilla cream soda, but not this red cream of which you speak.

IDK if you cab get it outside of PA https://www.a-treat.com/flavors/cream-soda-20oz-bottle

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DagwoodIII piefed.social DagwoodIII@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-17
#68 · Quote Reply

IDK if you cab get it outside of PA https://www.a-treat.com/flavors/cream-soda-20oz-bottle

Cream soda here is vanilla flavored. Looks a little like beer, especially if you get a long neck bottle. What does the red taste like?

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jak sopuli.xyz jak@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-13
#69 · Quote Reply

Foxon Park, baby!

Hosmer Mountain all the way

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