Ope, and yeah that only worked for me early in transition. A year or two in I had too much hips for men's pants. Fortunately I'm only 1.8m

I had issues with scrolling and it jumping around the page. Shame cause it is interesting but modern web design seems always built for the device I am not using.

I've had this issue too. Always wore large, now they're too short. I've had friends take little jabs, cause I'm a little bit heavier than I was, but that hasn't elongated my torso or spine. My middle didn't get longer, and I don't think my shoulders are 3-4" more beefy than they were. Now, I get a Large and it fits like I expect for a wear or two, and then it's immediately a medium. It sucks, cause I don't buy clothes often, so I'll go to a sporting event and get a shirt, buy a L, and then it shrinks to unwearable size.

My fiance, a chef, needed new work pants. I found her some that had pockets and she was very happy.

I find it interesting that this article focussed on waist size as the issue. I mean I assume they know what they’re talking about since I know nothing about women’s clothing but I had always assumed the body shape thing at the end was the most important problem

All true.

Maybe , but as I’ve settled into my dad bod, I’ve found that the bigger issue is a different shape, somewhat like women’s clothes. I definitely have more sympathy for them. It’s great that men usually only need to care about waist size and inseam size, but now the same waist size may be big or small depending on the rise, same with inseam. I definitely need to shop by brand that fits, and assume the numbered sizes are still actual measurements.

That being said, for lettered sizes, I’ve definitely turned to brands that are larger. I usually buy Carhardt t-shirts because I can wear an xL-T (and they have tall sizes!) when another brand is needed a 2x or 3x, then I’d go up a size if they don’t have tall.

For me the Costco question is easy: they never have tall sizes.

Right, that even affects guys and I’m sure it’s much worse for women

I just learned how to tailor my own clothes. It's really simple, at least for shirts and hoodies, for pants I still go to a professional. I usually buy my shirts in 2XL and then slim down the waist

Slim male teens (i was one, i actually am still a teen (a tiny demographic on lemmy it seems) and slim, but nonbinary now (but that doesn't actually affect my clothes sizing, as i have not done any biological transitioning yet)) have the inverse of this issue: trousers tend to be too big at the waist and hips if you're slim, so almost all options are either too wide or too short. Seems like these big brands are pretty damn stupid (and evil) and only consider median people (by designing everything for them only) and fat people (by labeling fat people stuff as not fat people stuff in order to manipulate fat people into seeing their brand positively).

also the way this page presents information reminds me of Create mod's Ponder feature

The major flaw in this argument is that the size increase of clothing is compared between 1995 and 2021.

If you look at the distributions comparing women's sizes between the ages of 15 and under, 20-30 years, and 30+ years old, you'll notice that women naturally gain weight as they age.

At the same time, the market share of fast fashion has grown by over $100 billion in this time span. Currently, women in the 30+ cohort have the most purchasing power. This means that older women are able to buy more clothes, and older women tend to weigh more.

Clothing sizes for women are not standardized like they are for men. You don't get to walk in and pick a 33x34 and leave. Women have to try a spread of 3-5 sizes, because every company has its own size, and women's waistlines can vary up to 5"+ because frequently bloat due to periods. Add in the fact that women's waist lines naturally slowly go up as they age, and you get the impossible task of knowing exactly what your size is when everything is conspiring to make is as difficult as possible.

The first comment assumes that women are choosing smaller sizes out of vanity, when in reality it's because it's impossible to know what your size is due to non-standard sizing and the fact that you need to estimate how your fit will be when you're not bloating, and your size on an average day creeps up as you age.

Companies are quietly taking advantage of this because a woman will not suspect much if she wore a size 8 in her 20s and wore a size 10 in her 30s, when the reality is that her size 10 is actually a size 12 by former standards.

My read was that waist size is the issue because the manufacturers have made it the issue. The idea you can derive the other dimensions as a function of waist size is clearly an assumption that has a limited range of validity, and there hasn't been a broader effort to come up with something better.

I'm a man with nearly an hourglass figure. The odd time i wear even a slimfit dress shirt it looks like a wingsuit on me.

The problem with brands that offer Plus and larger sizes are usually made for heavier weights, not for high but thinner. Once you abandon Woman's clothes altogether, the problem goes away. It's a shame, but buying clothes become so much simpler, and you get functional pockets as a plus too.