I currently own the 2023 Motorola edge+ and love it. Its got flagship features at like half the price. I bought it for like $700 2-3 years ago.

• Snapdragon 8 gen 2
• 8GB RAM
• 512GB storage
• IP 68
• Triple camera 50-50-12MP
• Stereo sound
• WiFi7, Bluetooth LE
• NFC
• Fingerprint sensor under the screen
• 68W charging

The ONLY real drawback that I've had over 2 years is that the front glass is curved and breaks too easily for being Gorilla Glass. The curved design also means that case options are super limited so its a double whammy.

Motorola had made several classic phones.I hope this will be their true comeback.

that and Wabistics, if i here you mention anything else but Wabistics...

One mans based is another mans cringe

I have Edge 50 pro and I can tell you it is full of shit. Meta services, their own shitty services installing crap of their choice, adware they are reenabling as soon as you disable it... You'll need adb to remove all that.

Sounds like a good choice. Motorola has some very good budget phones and also good high-end phones. All running pretty clean versions of Android. I hope GrapheneOS will support both a flagship (or midrange) and a budget phone.

To me it’s unexpected as I wasn’t following this all that closely.

I was following closely - checking for updates weekly or more, while struggling to be so much as content with my P9FP and trying to decide whether to upgrade to a P10FP (marginal upgrades on paper, but they really help out in the weakest areas).

Still entirely unexpected to me, and even in my wildest hypotheticals, Motorola was not on my radar.

Amen! I was using a note 13pro until all the carriers in the United States blocked it the month that Trump took office.

Tbh, not a huge fan of the pick. I had various Motorola Droid phones for years before switching to Samsung. All of the Droids were horribly underpowered after 2 years and the batteries only had 1/2 of their original capacity by that point. Then I got a Samsung S10e and it lasted 5+ years.

I seriously hope Motorola has gotten rid of their planned obsolescence policy in the past few years. It's nice that there's going to be a second vendor option for GrapheneOS soon, but I wish it was a better vendor

This is hilarious to me because other than a Samsung once (which made me go back) I had only moto... Until when I finally upgraded I wanted grapheneOS so pixel it was. Very happy about this.

They are more similar than they are dissimilar. Only uber nerds see the differences more prominently

what would you consider a better vendor? samsung, xiaomi, oneplus? those all have been plenting more and more malware into their phones from the factory, sometimes making it seem like a feature, and recently they started to bar owners from replacing the OS on it by taking away the option to unlock the bootloader

like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port

the fairphone 4 can do that, calyxos makes use of it

It's great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That's my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.

I sense Motorolas authentic belief in me as our pact is formed....

BOND RANK LEVEL 1
LEARNED PIXEL DEFOCUS
YOU CAN NOW STUDY THE MOTOROLA ARCHETYPE IN AKADEMIA

hmd global / nokia might have been a good option

why in the thumbnail is it neither org's logos?

This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We're in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going "Is there literally nothing else we can use???" Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can't they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I've seen lately, including Motorola's, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.

Their hardware's usually 'fine' not great, but with decent screens and battery life.

I would like it even more to see that working on a Xiaomi or Samsung

Same. I don't think I could use a phone without the chop to turn on flashlight thing.

At first I though the chop was so useless but I use it all the time now, lol.

Everybody is always amazed when I do it while they're still stumbling around looking for their flashlight toggle lol

I have a 2021 Moto edge still going strong

Interesting catch, weird AI image maybe?

Isn't Motorola still a US company though? How is this a move away from US tech?

Nope, moto mobility is owned by lenovo. So chinese.

Presumably they could start shipping graphene stock

That'd be a dream!

Fairphone has a slightly different focus, mainly sustainability and ethics (labour rights, production). Graphene's more on the privacy side.

Would be dope though, to have it on there as well.

Because that was not their goal before, they were OK with the level of freedom their users had with stock Android. With the future restrictions Google will apply to Android they are probably looking to ship their new devices with Graphene to prevent that.

I used Motorola's products with Android for years and they one of the few in the market to still deliver something close to stock Android with only a couple of apps added for specific features (gestures to turn off flash lantern, etc) so I don't where you got this malware thing going on with them. Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes.

Now I got a Samsung and it's one of my worst experiences ever using their "One UI" and it is really riddled with crap because Samsung for some reason thinks they need to add their own versions of every app included in stock Android.

they still do have jacks in some of their low and mid devices

yikes, I noticed a lot of that crap is added by phone carriers themselves

Bifteki!

This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.

The purpose of a system is what it does. Capitalism is functioning, it's just that we're not the beneficiaries.

Motorola flagship phones are decent. I've been running a razr (the flip alternative) and its been solid. They're not groundbreaking but they are a good bang for your money

Their low budget ones aren't that good because they cost like 200 usd and run on bare minimums

Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes

Yes, but more urgently, Facebook.

Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don't give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.

Looking at Wikipedia now, Motorola Mobility is owned by Lenovo but still a US based company, so kinda the worst of both, no?

lineage already works on those

Unfortunately I was an idiot and uninstalled it when I was debloating my phone. I reinstalled moto actions, but the chop for flashlight doesn't work unless it's recently after a reboot (the turn for camera does though). Legitimately temped to make a backup then factory reset my phone to get it back.

Yeah all my motos were okay. But not "serious" cameras.

My next phone I wanted to be one of the top performing cameras.

Since when is Graphene's logo a football and Motorola's the Super Mario M?

It's AI slop.

I really hope motorolla just does a regular unaltered Graphene OS and not some skinned version of it

Something I’ve been thinking about: independent security projects often face pressure once corporate partnerships or funding enter the picture.

Does GrapheneOS have any structural safeguards to ensure development priorities remain community-driven if hardware vendors become more involved?

I’m not assuming there’s a problem — just interested in how projects like this avoid the “venture capital influence” problem that has affected other open source initiatives.

No, that's socialism - benefit for the community. Under capitalism, it's a principle of putting profit before people, rather than the inverse.