If the neighbor is concerned enough to call a priest after exhausting all natural means of dealing with the problem, he's surely going to point the camera right at the trash cans.

Yeah, basic as fuck.

Weird request, but okay.

They did eventually, I think it took more than a year. It was ridiculous.

Am in US. I will NEVER own a house with an HOA. NEVER

Fake but still kind of funny.

I'm just glad my HOA is chill and I like them.

The only thing they've had to bring fines about is people trying to move furniture in the wrong elevator and scratching up the wood finishings, and they should. We have a freight elevator for that.

OTOH, your town planning councils tend to be a lot more restrictive.

That sounds more like just an apartment management or smth, no? HOAs are more for separate houses I thought

MY EYEBALLS ARE MELTING

IDK. I've had good and bad experiences with them. But overall more positive than negative. It's all about which HOA you're talking about. Yes, you can say you should be able to do what you want with your land. But that isn't how any kind of land ownership works anywhere on Earth. There are always some entities regulating how you can use it, as you inevitably have neighbors and you don't have a right to damage the enjoyment of their property.

Can they be overbearing? Sure, the wrong ones can. But they also keep mean that I don't have to worry about my next door neighbor turning his property into a junkyard.

These are creative writing exercises on reddit. It's gotten a million times worse since LLMs.

🤌 the fact that you went through the effort to make that text green, too

This is easily accomplished with a fishing rod. I also don't believe this, however.

We have them for apartment buildings in Romania. Never heard of any for houses, fortunately.

whooosh.

A LLM that does not understand that you can’t avoid being seen by a ring camera by ‘approaching from a blind spot. ‘

I've had 2 and they were both far, far more than just overbearing (yes, I realize that I used that word in my previous comment). My first HOA had a pair of elderly sisters that were both on the board that would walk around the subdivision a few times a week with clipboards just looking for anything that they would come at you with. One time they had the board lawyer send me a threat of putting a lien on my property because I had left a paint can on my driveway for a few hours... while I was literally painting a room.

The only people that HOAs serve are authoritarians and people who only think of their home as an investment whose value is more important than anything else. I just won't play that game anymore.

Look up the word bünzli

I mean its perfectly conceivable for any camera to have a blind spot. The lens can only see so much. Heck given its a Ring camera its almost certainly on a wireless connection so its trivial to briefly disrupt the connection if you're okay with violating FCC regulations

Challenge accepted, I just need to find a step ladder to reach!

I think the removed signs should've been liberated and re-placed at the rich neighborhood park, and chains should've simply been set by the swings there. Make them see what they're doing and explain to their families why this is happening (if they even bother to use their parks)

It doesn't damage the park, it doesn't prevent its use but it does clearly place the problem they created at their doorstep

I'm imagining there's some setup to how the cans were placed that creates a blindspot where the OOP can move them without himself being seen, so the camera will simply pick up the cans moving each night without any clear source of the movement

My ring doorbell

Obligatory get that police state spyware off your home and use something else (if cameras are even at all necessary!)

You don't have to jam it. You can spam it with DEAUTHs from anything that will run aircrack.

I'm the kind of person who would go full rules-lawyer on them, get myself elected to the board and generally rip out every silly rule they have if not completely disband the HOA if needed

Respectfully, you're painting with far too broad a brush. I don't consider it authoritarian to not want my next door neighbor to turn their front lawn into a junkyard. Again, it really depends on the HOA. I know that goes against the Lemmy party line, but it's my lived experience and the experience of millions of American homeowners.

HOA zombies are a plague

I thought wpa3 made those attacks not possible?

Also jeez, that's a program I haven't thought of in 20 years. That and wireshark...

Found op. That's some nice work you're doing.

Why not both? 🤣

We Germans sadly have owner's associations in appartment buildings that can pull similar shit with the house rules, and also crazy restrictive building codes in some places, dictating how your driveway is allowed to look etc.

the cans would not be in a blind spot

If a camera is pointed directly at the trash cans, there would be no blind spot from which they could move them.

You're making the assumption the cameras can see the bins. Might just look at a driveway.

My parents kinda has one where they live in Sweden. Except everyone is welcome to the meetings. And it's mostly about planning, upkeep, and budgeting for snow ploughing, play parks and things like that, instead of relying on the local council to do it. And it's only for the one street they live on. Definitely no where near what an american HOA is like 😅

For real, Switzerland does not nearly get enough shit for being exactly like the stereotypes that actually exist for Germany but even more so

In the whole of Europe? That thing that‘s made up by a big bunch of countries, all with very different laws and regulations? Bold claim.

Check every morning if the cans moved.

Notice they move Wednesday night.

Set alarm for middle of the night (3AM) and check if they moved.

Didn't move? Next week set alarm for 4.30AM.

Moved? 3.45AM.

Moved....

Shoot the guy trespassing on your property in dark clothes in the middle of the night.

A camera was put up explicitly for the purpose of seeing who is moving the bins, and the guy can’t see who is moving the bins, and the guy never thinks to reposition his camera?

No, that’s AI slop.

Anybody have any neighbor revenge tips? As in my neighbor is a fucking psycho who tried to break into my house, but is also rich, so he paid a lawyer and got a hand slap?

Obligatory, ACAB and fuck America. Can’t wait to take a position overseas again.

Nowhere does it say they are Americans 🤷‍♂️ also you sound like a psychopath

Depends how much revenge you need. There is a sliding scale between pooping on his doormat to planting creeping bamboo to planting an IED.

Somewhere between the bamboo and IED

I find a well aimed missile tends to do the trick

HOA plus calling a priest to have the house blessed certainly point in that direction though. But I don't think that would be legal everywhere even there. Isn't much use to you though if the neighbour is the kind of psycho to shoot someone over this.

Isn't HOA pretty unique to America (and maybe Canada)?