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tigeruppercut lemmy.zip tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-08-20
#52 · Quote Reply

They can break a man’s arm.

Not if you punt em

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FatVegan leminal.space FatVegan@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-11-05
#53 · Quote Reply

That post is of course a billion years old itself and the images created by shrink-wrapping are still in people's heads. Feathers on dinosaurs are rarely what people think of first as well and the notion has been around for quite a while.

I mean the lizard dinosaurs are everywhere. Every toy, movie, even in schools.

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Alberat lemmy.world Alberat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-03
#54 · Quote Reply

Movies often align to the popular perception if a thing rather than reality. Otherwise you're watching a documentary.

Dino DNA!

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kalpol lemmy.ca kalpol@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-06-05
#55 · Quote Reply

They already look like dinosaurs.

They already are dinosaurs

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scott_anon_21 lemmy.ca scott_anon_21@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-08
#56 · Quote Reply

Those old-paleoartists were really unfettered.

🤣

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BlueFootedPetey sh.itjust.works peteypete420@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-03-12
#57 · Quote Reply

Is it all the dinosaurs? Or just ones from specific eras that likely had feathers? Ill try to find ou5 myself later. But if anybody has a link to something akin to "feathered dinos for dummies" id love to check it out

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brisk aussie.zone brisk@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-08-22
#58 · Quote Reply

Weirdly, the notion that swans are particularly aggressive is one I learnt on the English-speaking part of the internet (so I instantly assume it's an USianism). Any references to swan behaviour that I can find in German talk about how they're associated with calm and serenity.

I've hung out with swans heaps in Australia and they've been almost entirely chill bros who will take food if offered but won't harass you for it. I wonder if different species have different demeanours, like how Canada geese are known for being especially aggressive.

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cazssiew lemmy.world cazssiew@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

Weirdly, the notion that swans are particularly aggressive is one I learnt on the English-speaking part of the internet (so I instantly assume it's an USianism). Any references to swan behaviour that I can find in German talk about how they're associated with calm and serenity.

In my experience it's more of a specifically British phobia. They have these sayings about swans breaking arms...

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Soup lemmy.world Soup@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
#60 · Quote Reply

They already are dinosaurs

That’s what I was gettin’ at, yeah

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Kilgore Trout feddit.it kilgore_trout@feddit.it
Joined: 2022-06-21
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sorry, not entirely sure what you're saying?

I am claiming that the notion has been circulating only for the last 30 years.

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Gumus lemmy.dbzer0.com Gumus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-28
#62 · Quote Reply

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stray pawb.social stray@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-01-13
#63 · Quote Reply

crazy how there's billion dollar movies that have embarrassingly incorrect dinosaurs in them

While the look is based in old misconceptions of dinosaur biology, the Jurassic Park dinos lacking feathers actually works really well for the story. They were never meant to be real dinosaurs. They're just theme park attractions, so of course they look how the customers expect them to. Just like how most of them aren't even from the Jurassic period.

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stray pawb.social stray@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-01-13
#64 · Quote Reply

Is it all the dinosaurs? Or just ones from specific eras that likely had feathers? Ill try to find ou5 myself later. But if anybody has a link to something akin to "feathered dinos for dummies" id love to check it out

All birds today are actually coelurosauria dinosaurs, a group of theropods (T-rex and raptor-shape dinosaurs) who are thought to have all had feathers for warmth, show, and/or gliding and flight. I know we have evidence that some other theropods had feathers (or at least hairy stuff), but I don't know whether the rest of them are lacking evidence of feathers or whether we have evidence against them having feathers.

I would also love such a book, preferably with lots of pictures.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-26
#65 · (edited) Quote Reply

Don't know, I've seen swans being total assholes in Finland, in Estonia, in Czechia, so maybe in Germany around Baltic shore they are also not seen as calm There are a lot of animals that are seen completely not how they are, based on vibes, like wise owls, or cunning snakes, etc

I think it's funny how people go on about majestic horses. They're not majestic, they are uncoordinated panicky idiots.

My aunt has a horse and I've seen him run into a tree, there's one single tree in his paddock and it's a giant oak, and he's run into it at least three times. He panics if he can't see his friend, often because his friend is behind him, and then runs madly around until he crashes into something, or stumbles into the pond.

This is the horse and had a panic attack because the farmer had bought a new wheelbarrow and it looked different to the one he was used to.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-26
#66 · Quote Reply

While the look is based in old misconceptions of dinosaur biology, the Jurassic Park dinos lacking feathers actually works really well for the story. They were never meant to be real dinosaurs. They're just theme park attractions, so of course they look how the customers expect them to. Just like how most of them aren't even from the Jurassic period.

Yes that was the retcon explanation. The actual explanation is that they wanted to have Velociraptors in the movie and weren't really bothered about the fact that they aren't actually that big, there are species of raptor that are that large, but they didn't want to use their names because they were less well-known. Velociraptor was one of the few dinosaurs people knew. T-Rex didn't become famous until after Jurassic Park.

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Echo Dot feddit.uk echodot@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-26
#67 · Quote Reply

it's not like documentaries aren't plenty popular, that recent series on dinosaurs (walking with dinosaurs, i think?) with our homeboy David Attenborough was hyped as fuck, no cap, on god, etc

Walking with dinosaurs is like 20 years old it's not recent.

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Lumidaub feddit.org Lumidaub@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-11-21
#68 · Quote Reply

I am claiming that the notion has been circulating only for the last 30 years.

Ah, got it. Yes, but is that an argument against what I said? Both non-shrink-wrapped dinosaurs and dinosaurs with feathers haven't reached the general public conscience (and I'd argue feathers as a concept are easier to convey, actually, so they should take less time). So when popular science like the post in the OP talks about what depictions "do" instead of "did", it's talking to the public.

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themachinestops lemmy.dbzer0.com themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-19
#69 · Quote Reply

A giant chicken, truly terrifying.

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Swedneck discuss.tchncs.de Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-10
#70 · Quote Reply

Is it all the dinosaurs? Or just ones from specific eras that likely had feathers? Ill try to find ou5 myself later. But if anybody has a link to something akin to "feathered dinos for dummies" id love to check it out

From what i've seen it's basically 50/50 if any one species had a significant amount of feathers, but feathers do seem to have existed in the earliest dinosaur ancestor so it could maybe potentially show up in any species.

Then you can get more detailed and memorize which kinds of dinosaur had what kind of feather covering, like sauropods seem to at most have some quills and similar decorations, while dromaeosaurs (dakotaraptor, velociraptor, etc) were basically big murder birds with full on wings.

But of course even within clades there could be significant difference: T.rex seems to have been, uh, covered in straight up skin like a giant plucked chicken.. but at least some of its relatives were mostly covered in feathers.

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stray pawb.social stray@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-01-13
#71 · Quote Reply

Yes that was the retcon explanation. The actual explanation is that they wanted to have Velociraptors in the movie and weren't really bothered about the fact that they aren't actually that big, there are species of raptor that are that large, but they didn't want to use their names because they were less well-known. Velociraptor was one of the few dinosaurs people knew. T-Rex didn't become famo...

T-Rex didn't become famous until after Jurassic Park.

Really? I thought everyone knew T-rex when I was a kid. The only pick for Land Before Time I thought was weird was Duckie because I'm still not 100% sure what she is despite having looked it up a few times. The rest of the cast are what I'd consider your classic dinosaurs. But it's hard to know what other people know when you're an autistic kid.

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Swedneck discuss.tchncs.de Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-10
#72 · Quote Reply

Walking with dinosaurs is like 20 years old it's not recent.

the new one lol, people were really excited about it so it's weird that you missed it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_with_Dinosaurs_(2025_TV_series)

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BlueFootedPetey sh.itjust.works peteypete420@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-03-12
#73 · Quote Reply

From what i've seen it's basically 50/50 if any one species had a significant amount of feathers, but feathers do seem to have existed in the earliest dinosaur ancestor so it could maybe potentially show up in any species. Then you can get more detailed and memorize which kinds of dinosaur had what kind of feather covering, like sauropods seem to at most have some quills and similar decorations...

Thank you! Now you owe me no explanation of course, and ill verify this information if I need to.

But may I ask, are you just well read in this department, or some sort of professional/expert?

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Kilgore Trout feddit.it kilgore_trout@feddit.it
Joined: 2022-06-21
#74 · Quote Reply

Ah, got it. Yes, but is that an argument against what I said? Both non-shrink-wrapped dinosaurs and dinosaurs with feathers haven't reached the general public conscience (and I'd argue feathers as a concept are easier to convey, actually, so they should take less time). So when popular science like the post in the OP talks about what depictions "do" instead of "did", it's talking to the public.

I was not contradicting you, only adding context.

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Swedneck discuss.tchncs.de Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-10
#75 · Quote Reply

Thank you! Now you owe me no explanation of course, and ill verify this information if I need to. But may I ask, are you just well read in this department, or some sort of professional/expert?

i'm just autistic and have re-watched all of Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong like 5 times

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