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California's age verification law is proving controversial — here's what you need to know, and why some Linux distros are in the firing line
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Pommes_für_dein_Balg feddit.org mech@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-10-06
#52 · Quote Reply

I am so sick of needing to make an account for every single thing so they can track me as an individual.

Making your own user account on a shared PC is just common sense. That way you can customize it for yourself and your kids don't have to see your and your wife's private photos.

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z3rOR0ne lemmy.ml z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-02-22
#53 · Quote Reply

I'll say this is a good idea the day Gavin Fucking Newsom sits down with me, follows the Gentoo Handbook installation process from black box shell prompt to full working KDE desktop environment with all the bells and whistles (email, browser, office suite, printer working, etc.), and then explain exactly at which Fucking step the age verification prompt should be at. Fuck.

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the_riviera_kid lemmy.world the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-10
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

Lol so -1 bootlickers is the right amount, got it. Yeah dude it's on me that you're raging at people for things they didn't say, about an attitude you conjured out of thin air

So far you've demonstrated you dont understand hyperbole or anger so again thats on you. It's not my responsibility to hold your hand and explain things.

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#55 · (edited) Quote Reply

So far you've demonstrated you dont understand hyperbole or anger so again thats on you. It's not my responsibility to hold your hand and explain things.

You said the thread was packed full of bootlickers, and it clearly upset you greatly. Nice try to backpedal and project tho.

I guess it doesn't matter that no one indicated any level of licking boots even if you exaggerate what they wrote. And barely anyone even said anything you could twist into that.

But your supreme innocence here is what matters though. My bad.

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Matty_r programming.dev Matty_r@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-09-23
#56 · Quote Reply

Give me a fucking break. So Cisco is going to release an age verification update to literally millions of devices? How do I install this age verification update on my Nintendo DS, Macintosh IIvx, or my Nokia 110? And who is going to go door to door to verify that all my devices with operating systems have been updated? Is there a bounty for reporting my neighbours or coworkers when they don’t update?

This is definitely a case of just planting the seed, and then escalating from there. Go as broad as you can, then pair back requirements to get it passed. Once its in law, you complain that youre not able to police is properly to get more powers and have the law expanded. Repeat ad nauseum. Basically ending on full identification needed to do anything on any device.

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eli lemmy.world eli@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#57 · Quote Reply

Relevant lines from the article: If you look at the more niche Linux distros, they're run by small teams of enthusiasts who simply don't have the resources to tackle implementing the necessary systems and real-time API — it's just not going to happen. In those cases, as Tom's Hardware notes, their approach is likely to be labelling the OS as not intended for use in California. And I don't see a...

And I don’t see anyone in the firing line, except perhaps Californian citizens…

Which, what, Californians are gonna be IP/geo logged and blocked by distro websites from clicking the download button?

Oh no! Whatever will I do! torrents

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lightnsfw reddthat.com lightnsfw@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-15
#58 · Quote Reply

I’m going to be the contrarian here and say the bill is… good? It seems sensibly lax: The OS is required to ask for age, without external proof or requirement to share, and then provide apps who request it an interface to verify your answer. I think taking the responsibility to verify age out of whichever dodgy data broker asks for it and unto the operating system itself, and ultimately the use...

No it's not. Services requiring age verification can ask for your age if that's necessary. You can then decide if you want that service to have that information from there. Baking it into the OS with an API where anyone can just ask for and receive that information is asinine.

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socsa piefed.social socsa@piefed.social
Joined: 2024-08-20
#59 · Quote Reply

I don't understand why "progressives" are suddenly attaching themselves to this regressive anti porn crusade all of a sudden.

Parent your own kids and leave mine alone. I care more about the worms in my garden than what your kids do on the Internet.

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socsa piefed.social socsa@piefed.social
Joined: 2024-08-20
#60 · Quote Reply

I’m going to be the contrarian here and say the bill is… good? It seems sensibly lax: The OS is required to ask for age, without external proof or requirement to share, and then provide apps who request it an interface to verify your answer. I think taking the responsibility to verify age out of whichever dodgy data broker asks for it and unto the operating system itself, and ultimately the use...

Have you considered that age verification serves literally no purpose besides being a Trojan horse to kill anonymity on the Internet?

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socsa piefed.social socsa@piefed.social
Joined: 2024-08-20
#61 · Quote Reply

As the adult you can just make your own user account with your age and log out when you're done.

Ok and you can still do that without this law.

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hendrik palaver.p3x.de hendrik@palaver.p3x.de
Joined: 2021-08-21
#62 · (edited) Quote Reply

"Just make more accounts" doesn't apply to the shared family computer in the living room. That just means forcing everyone to create multiple accounts when they don't need to.

I don't really get the discussion. At least per that bill nobody gets forced to create multiple accounts. What it does is mandate a input field on account creation. (And a bit more.) Whoever sets up that shared family computer can put in what they like. Create one account or five. Thats up to them...

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apparia discuss.tchncs.de apparia@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2026-02-06
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm tired of arguing with people who don't understand what the California law is trying to do so I'm going to try making this copy-pastable. That's not how it would work. It's a local setting in the OS. It's actually a pretty good idea in theory to have a standardized way of communicating age category signals to websites and programs from the OS level. Device admin can set a user for their chil...

Thanks, honestly I had not actually read the bill before coming here to shitpost, and it seems like yeah it's more well-intentioned than people are giving it credit for.

I still have serious reservations about the broadness, vagueness, and premise that mandatory age signals are a good idea at all -- it's a lateral move at best; weakly attempting to kerb the most overtly predatory parts of the whole "age verification" movement, without opposing the idea itself.

But you're right, it's not the blatant data-vacuuming law that I think some people imagine it to be.

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Th4tGuyII fedia.io Th4tGuyII@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-06-11
#64 · Quote Reply

They're actually isn't any good way to do this. This is not a better way because in order to enforce it you would have to change what Linux is fundamentally and that's bad for everybody. The solution to the problem of some people doing bad things in private is not to eliminate privacy. That actually can't be considered as a component of the solution. I don't know what the solution to that probl...

IMO the real solution to preventing kids getting into adult content is for Governments to agree on and enforce a universal set of parental controls that every program and website has to respect. Put the onus on parents to make sure their kids aren't doing that stuff.

But that's not the world we're working with. Instead Governments have decided they're going to play nanny, and it would appear nobody is taking no for an answer.

So from a practical perspective, if I'm going to have to play along, I'd much rather my own computer handle my sensitive data locally and prove my age for me, than multiple fuckwits' servers off who-knows-where holding onto that data per website I want to visit.

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