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Possibly linux lemmy.zip ![]() possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-06-26 |
I am not bypassing any policy: the HPC Is there to collaborate on and data can be shared. Not having a shared group is not a policy, it's just that not all users are in the same group and users are added to just one group by default. We are indeed allowed to share files, hell most of the people I want to share stuff with are part of my own research group. ACL is allowed on the HPC. I'm asking h...
You are in way over your head Stop now before you get yourself in hot water |
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WhyJiffie sh.itjust.works WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-11 |
What do you mean? Is there an application that allows easily sharing files on one Linux system? That would be nice! If you mean going through an external server or peer to peer transfer, that is not too feasible. I do not have other storage places with tens of terabytes available, and transfering that much data through some P2P layer, while feasible, would probably be even less user friendly.
this sentence made me remember this: https://github.com/9001/copyparty |
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WhyJiffie sh.itjust.works WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-11 |
That is not how permissions work
.. don't they? usually, owner of the directory can change its permissions, and ACLs when those are enabled for the mount |
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nottelling lemmy.world nottelling@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I don't know what your background is, this is mostly hindrances when doing research. Administration has taken over and demands deciding how research should be conducted without having any idea on how it should be conducted. You may see it as a red flag, myself I have this very clear that I do not want to follow their bullshit. If I'm losing my job so be It, However you may be misunderstanding: ...
Your job as sysadmin is to adhere to your organization's policy, no matter how stupid and hindering that policy might seem to you. You're knowingly giving your users a workaround to their NDA, which puts all of your jobs and your data confidentiality at risk. You've got no business with root privileges. |
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blackbirdbiryani lemmy.world blackbirdbiryani@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-14 |
Thanks, this is a great idea! I can see you have been doing this for a long time and you're talking from experience. Regarding shared data: I use this more as a way to give raw data to other people and collect results from them. I use it mostly as a temporary directory used to transfer data, anything significant will get copied over to my share and backed up. I can see how you could be worried ...
If you're not that worried about storage then you can just make copies if necessary, then you don't really have to worry about permissions (apart from read, which is typically default for the same group). But yea if there's any chance more than 1 person might work off the same copy of data on HPC, make it read only for the peace of mind. Regarding conda envs, yea I have a few common read only conda environments so that scripts can be used by multiple users without the hassle of ensuring everyone has the same env. Quite useful. |
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Possibly linux lemmy.zip ![]() possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-06-26 |
.. don't they? usually, owner of the directory can change its permissions, and ACLs when those are enabled for the mount
Changing permissions is not the same as bypassing permissions |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
You are in way over your head Stop now before you get yourself in hot water
Fuck off. |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
Is there an application that allows easily sharing files on one Linux system? That would be nice! this sentence made me remember this: https://github.com/9001/copyparty
Not what I need, but it looks very cool! |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
Your job as sysadmin is to adhere to your organization's policy, no matter how stupid and hindering that policy might seem to you. You're knowingly giving your users a workaround to their NDA, which puts all of your jobs and your data confidentiality at risk. You've got no business with root privileges.
I have no root privileges, I'm providing no NDA workaround. |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
If you're not that worried about storage then you can just make copies if necessary, then you don't really have to worry about permissions (apart from read, which is typically default for the same group). But yea if there's any chance more than 1 person might work off the same copy of data on HPC, make it read only for the peace of mind. Regarding conda envs, yea I have a few common read only c...
The shared environment thing seems like a very cool idea! I'll try to set it up. |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
If it's a compliance problem, I get it. From a practical standpoint, FTP or WebDAV don't require installing anything.
Not strictly about compliance, setting up FTP or WebDAV is technically complex without root access. You'd have to account for the fact that sessions on a HPC are time limited. |
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warmaster lemmy.world warmaster@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
Not strictly about compliance, setting up FTP or WebDAV is technically complex without root access. You'd have to account for the fact that sessions on a HPC are time limited. Probably you can come up with some workaround that way, but I'm not sure that is any better than my current setup.
You could use Copyparty. No root needed. |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
You could use Copyparty. No root needed.
I didn't fully understand what this software does, but it looks pretty neat. |
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warmaster lemmy.world warmaster@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
I didn't fully understand what this software does, but it looks pretty neat. However, regardless of what it does, this is not something that I could use in my case. This spawns a server and I imagine it can do it's thing only as long as the server is running. Which in my case it would be around 8 hours which is the login session time limit on the HPC. Moreover, I'd be running a potentially reso...
Previously you said you didn't want to duplicate the files because it was a ton of data. Now you're saying that accessing it on demand is impractical. It's becoming difficult to help you. Not because of your technical context, but your attitude. |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
Previously you said you didn't want to duplicate the files because it was a ton of data. Now you're saying that accessing it on demand is impractical. It's becoming difficult to help you. Not because of your technical context, but your attitude. Copyparty introduction
I'm grateful for all the help and advice in here. Duplicating the data is not a problem, we can have several copies of the data on the server, not an issue. Having the data on an external server on the other hand may be a problem, because that would require quite a large amount of storing capacity. I'm unsure what you mean by accessing on demand: data already is on the server and people can access it. My main pain point is that if people copy stuff in there rather than creating it in place I do not get write access by default. The copy party software looks interesting for other applications, and I may pick it up for something else, but it is not something that would work in this case. |
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ranzispa mander.xyz ranzispa@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-10-18 |
Can you check back in here and let us know if it worked?
Hello, I'm back after trying. The g+s permission does not change group permissions when copying a file. |
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