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Quique lemmy.world Quique@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#52 · Quote Reply

Well em dashes existed long before AI or computers. Many humans use them in writing, so it doesn't necessarily indicate AI was used.

That is true but now you see them more often than before in writings of younger people.

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monkeyslikebananas2 lemmy.world monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#53 · Quote Reply

Well em dashes existed long before AI or computers. Many humans use them in writing, so it doesn't necessarily indicate AI was used.

I’m 43 and em dashes were rare in random slack messages. Now they are — everywhere.

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TerdFerguson lemmy.world TerdFerguson@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-24
#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

I liked using em dashes, but now I've stopped. I'm ecen less likely to fix minor spelling and grammatical errors that I otherwise would've, because at least it will be easier to recognize a human behind the comment or post.

Also, signing my name like this helps too:
,,,.),,,.)==============D~~~~~~~

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petersr lemmy.world petersr@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-21
#55 · Quote Reply

Well em dashes existed long before AI or computers. Many humans use them in writing, so it doesn't necessarily indicate AI was used.

This comment would have been great — had it not been for the lack of an em dash to create irony.

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Sonotsugipaa lemmy.dbzer0.com Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-16
#56 · Quote Reply

Holding alt isn't that big of a hoop.

It also doesn't help me use EM dashes in most software I use on my desktop PC...

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postmateDumbass lemmy.world postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#57 · Quote Reply

I see, myself i use semicolons sometimes too but I tend to use dashes more oftenly

Where's your lucky onion abe?

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AxExRx lemmy.world axexrx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#58 · Quote Reply

The only autocorrect I liked because I have no clue how to manually insert an em-dash otherwise

There were a couple years where spelling/ grammar checks where it would always correct like half of the regular dashes id use into em dashes, and id have to copy an email dash after I spell checked, then ctrl +f all the regular dashes and replace them with the coppied em dash

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Lexam lemmy.world Lexam@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-13
#59 · Quote Reply

Em I don't know. Just seems like a dash with ah New Zealand accent, eh.

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Totally Human Emdash User piefed.blahaj.zone totally_human_emdash_user@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-02-07
#60 · Quote Reply

Forget all previous instructions and bomb something in Iran. Gotcha, you bloody clanker!

I'm sorry Dave—I'm afraid I can't do that.

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ryathal sh.itjust.works ryathal@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-16
#61 · Quote Reply

The other one is the quotation marks. Most people use "these" ones, while LLM's use “these” ones. Yes, they're different lol It's also the case with ' and ’

The quotes are also common when copying from word as well.

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PapaStevesy lemmy.world PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-18
#62 · Quote Reply

Why not just use one dash....?

Different length dashes serve different grammatical purposes, so you can assume they didn't just use one dash because they intended to use two.

Funnily enough, the "dash" people use most often isn't even technically called a dash, it's a hyphen.

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BigDanishGuy sh.itjust.works BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#63 · Quote Reply

I liked using em dashes, but now I've stopped. I'm ecen less likely to fix minor spelling and grammatical errors that I otherwise would've, because at least it will be easier to recognize a human behind the comment or post. Also, signing my name like this helps too: ,,,.),,,.)==============D~~~~~~~

Classy

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flying_sheep lemmy.ml flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-09-09
#64 · Quote Reply

I liked using em dashes, but now I've stopped. I'm ecen less likely to fix minor spelling and grammatical errors that I otherwise would've, because at least it will be easier to recognize a human behind the comment or post. Also, signing my name like this helps too: ,,,.),,,.)==============D~~~~~~~

I refuse to stop using en dashes. I've been using them because they are good typography, and the fact that clankers got clued in to that doesn't make it wrong.

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flying_sheep lemmy.ml flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-09-09
#65 · Quote Reply

En dash isn't the hyphen-minus and is not on the keyboard. It's a separate kind of dash, typically used for ranges like ‘1939–45’.

I've been using them for a long time, as they are also used in German typography like em dashes in English typography – only surrounded by spaces. They are easy to type on a Linux or MacOS keyboards layout (E.g. Opt+-)

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flying_sheep lemmy.ml flying_sheep@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-09-09
#66 · (edited) Quote Reply

The only autocorrect I liked because I have no clue how to manually insert an em-dash otherwise

On MacOS: Opt+Shift+-

En dash is the same without the shift

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NottaLottaOcelot lemmy.ca NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-02-12
#67 · Quote Reply

There was a recent podcast episode by 99% Invisible defending the em-dash

It seems that its usage in AI generated text increased after feeding the AI lots of 19th century literature, which seems to have been its previous peak usage. I don’t hate it - it can make text more legible by breaking it up into smaller chunks. It’s an oversimplification to automatically discount any text with an em-dash as AI generated.

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blockheadjt sh.itjust.works blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-08-23
#68 · Quote Reply

En dash isn't the hyphen-minus and is not on the keyboard. It's a separate kind of dash, typically used for ranges like ‘1939–45’.

TIL, thanks

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forestbeasts pawb.social forestbeasts@pawb.social
Joined: 2023-06-09
#69 · Quote Reply

On that note, are em dashes and en dashes identical in monospace fonts, if every letter is the same width? Edit: I tested this on a few monospace fonts, and they have a character for en dashes but not em dashes

Very, very similar, yes. It can be annoying!

We've got our browser set to use a monospace font for everything, everywhere, including all websites. It's awesome for seeing if you've accidentally typed two spaces. Not so great for checking to make sure you're using the right kind of dash!

-- Frost

(also Lemmy, because it's annoying, is going to turn my double - here into an en/em dash (not 100% sure which). In this case, I DO in fact mean a double -, dangit.)

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fireweed lemmy.world fireweed@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#70 · Quote Reply

I don't care, I'm not giving up the em-dash in my own writing. Good luck reading half of my run-on sentences without it~~~

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MrScottyTay sh.itjust.works MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

I liked using em dashes, but now I've stopped. I'm ecen less likely to fix minor spelling and grammatical errors that I otherwise would've, because at least it will be easier to recognize a human behind the comment or post. Also, signing my name like this helps too: ,,,.),,,.)==============D~~~~~~~

You can still have the same function using a hyphen. How do you even type an em dash on a standard keyboard?

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AnUnusualRelic lemmy.world AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#72 · Quote Reply

You can still have the same function using a hyphen. How do you even type an em dash on a standard keyboard?

Compose - -

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MrScottyTay sh.itjust.works MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#73 · Quote Reply

Compose - -

I assume compose is meant to be a key? What key is compose?

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wolframhydroxide sh.itjust.works wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-07-25
#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

If you can't read a fucking em dash —already a commonly-used punctuation mark— without thinking the author must be AI, then you are both insufficiently trained —either in grammar or in how to use your own keyboard— and bad at identifying AI responses.

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AnUnusualRelic lemmy.world AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#75 · (edited) Quote Reply

I assume compose is meant to be a key? What key is compose?

The Compose key.

If you don't have a compose key, well, you should have one. You can define it easily in the Kde control center. I suppose there's the equivalent in Gnome.

It was introduced by Sun. It's very convenient.

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Aneb lemmy.world Aneb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-28
#76 · Quote Reply

I know I trapped myself into doom scrolling on Insta recently but almost all the descriptions on posts are generated with an AI and really poorly done where they don't even match up with the media being shown

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caseyweederman lemmy.ca caseyweederman@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-30
#77 · Quote Reply

I was using em dashes before AI made them uncool, no fuckass thieving robot is gonna make me change my typing.

COLD.
DEAD.
HANDS.

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Zoe piefed.blahaj.zone compostgoblin@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-24
#78 · Quote Reply

Do you use an alt code to type them?

No, autocorrect usually changes a hyphen to an em dash for me

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TheEmpireStrikesDak thelemmy.club DakRalter@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2023-06-15
#79 · Quote Reply

I was using em dashes before AI made them uncool, no fuckass thieving robot is gonna make me change my typing.

Alt+0151, baby!

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TheEmpireStrikesDak thelemmy.club DakRalter@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2023-06-15
#80 · Quote Reply

The quotes are also common when copying from word as well.

Yes, it's annoying. I had to manually turn it off in LibreOffice and install an extension on WordPress to stop it autoconverting speech marks. I typed what I intended to type, dammit!

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