4.15, PNW, today. Typical range is 3.80 - 5.30

We're a car-light household, so it doesn't affect us too much. I still want better mass transit options, though.

Bad. Even you if you live in a country that exports gas, prices still can rise.

If my rough calculations are correct, we'd love to have gas prices that are only 50% higher than that. 🇨🇦

Canada V3L. Transit is amazing, but only when it's train-based.

I loved the MTA and PATH when I was there.

Canada rejoices when our gas is only at us$5/gal.

It's around 2.20 per litre here.

Mitsubishi i-MiEV/Peugeot Ion/Citroen C0 (same car, different branding).
This car is awesome. Cheap, can park anywhere, nervous at the start, and surprisingly spacious for its tiny size. I already carried wooden planks of 2.4m (7.8 ft) inside. Too bad it is not produced anymore 😢

I don't need to compensate with RAM or Dodge truck. The Peugeot is spacious enough to fit my two huge balls inside it.

1.77 CHF for unleaded

I'm shopping for an EV, the market is so anemic there's essentially only 1 model from 1 brand that's not a humongous child killer.

How about the Hyundai?

$3.79/gal in western Pennsylvania..

My closest supermarket has
Diesel: £1.509
Unleaded: £1.379

Free as usual, I siphon it out of public school buses in low socioeconomic areas like Ronald Regan intended

Because gas prices are not controlled by supply and demand, they are price fixed.

Gee...maybe not buy so many SUVs and pickups then.

had decades to navigate the changes needed and just ignored it… Insanity

it is insanity, but not for the lack of navigation; it was about preventing china from gaining economic leverage with affordable electric vehicles and scalable renewable technologies.

Oh, just the regular $11.50 or so.

That's a guess though.
I saw 2,30 € per liter at my local gas station
and I just multiply by five for all the Usonians out there.

It'll likely hit somewhere between $25 to $100 by July.

Still $0.35/kWh at the DCFC I usually use. It's still cheap season. Will probably go up to $0.39 in June.

$0.13 at home, I think. Might be up to $0.15.

If you converted that to eMPG it would actually contribute to the conversation, particularly with the increasing costs of electricity.

This morning in Northern California: $4.89/gallon for regular at Costco, which is a good deal in my area, although you have to have a paid membership to get it.

I’m curious how energy costs affect public transit. Of course they have very good bargaining power and are well set up to augment energy prices.

To Google DuckDuckGo!

$2.99 this morning in northeast OK. It was $2.39 on March 1st, and jumped to $2.99 on the 2nd. I was surprised it didn't go up this morning... But I'm sure it has gone up since I drove to work.

Soooo glad I have a silly little fuel efficient car.

I tried that, but I froze my lips because the school buses nearby run on LPG.

Those units don't describe the same thing. Not to mention eMPG is arbitrary and not a particularly useful or accurate way to describe much of anything.

If what you're looking for is cost to operate, it's about 3 cents per mile on home charging and about 8.5 cents on DCFC. I tend to average 250 Wh/mi.

Fare changes usually are slower to change than gas prices for customers at the gas station. Bus fare in NYC is $3, and they can't just change that day by day. (Unless our new mayor makes the buses free to ride!)

It might be more expensive as energy costs go up, but services aren't supposed to be run at a profit. The value in a mass transit system is very high.

But there is probably an impact. Now I'm curious about how they decide the fares

I think what they were looking for (after a cursory search of the post title) was literally gas prices, not electricity prices lol

They vote on it when they do the budget, MTA board decides.

That makes no sense lmao

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/map/

Northern Germany, E10: ~2.12 € per liter during the day, ~2.00 in the morning and evening.
For E5, add 6¢ to these prices, for Diesel and SuperPlus (98 Octane instead of the usual 95), add 16¢.

Topped up diesel @ AU$1.69 / L last Tuesday. It is now AU$2.19 / L. This is in Sydney, Australia.

I'm at 1.7 €

Like $0.13 per KWh at home, minus whatever the panels generate. Probably not going up since it's all hydro anyway

The ionic? It feels overly long. I'd much rather have a sporty hatchback.

it makes perfect sense

Classic car owner problems ;)

It doesn't. If it was really a concern it'd be better to beat them to the technology

Hyundai is about to release an ioniq 3, maybe it will be smaller

At some point in the past I could fill my tank from near empty for around $20. Past year it's been closer to $30. I had .3 gallons left in the tank and filled up for about $40 today. My car is a microcar. I can't imagine how much filling a land barge would cost.

yes, it would be better, but we didn't because we lack the industrial capacity to provide both at scale and affordably so. so instead we just doubled down on fossil fuels and carved out legal corporate & governmental protections for harming people that we predict will get fucked over by climate change.

But that's just handing China the advantage without a fight, it doesn't slow them down at all. That's why it makes no sense.

we slowed them down by using super high tariffs on electric vehicles and solar panels and it makes sense from a geopolitical perspective. the united states & europe uses its economic leverage to control the world and letting people buy chinese electric vehicles, solar panels, etc. would give the chinese this same type of leverage.

trump, biden, obama, both bushes, etc. consider china to be the enemy, so forcing people to stay dependent on fossil fuels instead of green energy is a way of making sure that the united states stays in control; the same is true for europe.

that's also why we regime changed venezuela, libya, iran, etc. because they started selling oil using other currencies besides the american dollar and that would make the united states lose some of this leverage too.

But that's what im saying -- high tarrifs doesn't skow down technological innovation in China, of course they're way ahead of us now on EV technology. Yes, they did it to keep power over their United Statesian subjects, by keeping us in the dark they have more control over us. China didn't slow down at all because of that.

Exactly. So it wasn't that they ignored navigating, it was that their hegemony took priority.

I guess my point is they used to have a lot more power in China than they do now. It didn't have to be this way, the oil billionaires and automobile CEO could have found a way to monopolize renewables and EV technology at home too. They just operated off of fear and laziness instead of bravery and industriousness.

One can hope

I'm glad they didn't; the morally bankrupt and depraved lengths to which American capitalists will go to for profit is slowly killing this world and they're in full knowledge of that fact.

They can afford the finest talent money can buy and I bet that China's primacy had little impact on their plans. I also bet that's why they opted to delay instead of deny China; it doesn't matter anymore.

Somewhere in Hawaii:
$3.50 last Thursday
$3.60 yesterday, Monday
$4.90 $4.10 today, Tuesday, but this gas station was also closed today

Pretty horrifying, thanks

Edit: my bad, it was 4.099 (as in $4.10) that Tuesday, not 4.90
It is Thursday, March 12, & it's $4.15 now.

Edit: it is Friday the 13th, and gas is $4.35 (4.349, but it's really 4.35 to me)
This gas station is still closed; Idk why they bother updating the aign

Ouch

I mean it's the classic revolutionary's dilemma -- does bringing the system down, which causes incredible amounts of death and suffering for the poor, worth it in the long run? IMHO it never is, because the system always finds the most painful and evil ways to go down, with no guarantee the next system is any better.

Ideally the system itself improves over time like we saw happen in the 20th century in a lot of other countries, and social democracy takes over peacefully. But sometimes the capitalists won't let that happen and insist on a tragic and violent decline instead.