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fullsquare
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fullsquare@awful.systemsJoined: 2025-03-31 |
Silicon Valley is buzzing about this new idea: AI compute as compensation These people are genuinely unhinged. As the recent harpers article says: "...people who should be in The Hague are giving [startups] twenty million dollars. Something bad is gonna happen here, something really fucking bad is gonna happen...”
this is just wages paid in crypto but adapted to new era in a way that doesn't make sense |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Julia Angwin: I'm suing Grammarly over its paid AI feature that presented editing suggestions as if they came from me - and many other writers and journalists - without consent. State law requires consent before someone's name can be used for commercial purposes.
And here is the complaint, via evacide. |
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self
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self@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-25 |
DAIR, the AI-critical research organization founded by Timnit Gebru, is looking for a communications lead |
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BlueMonday1984
awful.systems
BlueMonday1984@awful.systems Joined: 2024-02-02 |
OT: an interesting musing I found on fedi:
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saucerwizard
awful.systems
saucerwizard@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-24 |
Has anyone heard of the Internal Family Systems Model? One of the CFAR founders said he relied on it when he was designing self-help workshops. The IFS encourages you to see yourself as a system of entities and talk to them separately, and that reminds me of Ziz Lasota's two-hemispheres theory and Michael Vassar's jailbreaking.
I recall there was a recent critical piece about it but I can’t remember where it was. |
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blakestacey
awful.systems
blakestacey@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-06-27 |
Chris Stokel-Walker at Fast Company reports:
Just one of many reasons that the mere existence of "ChatGPT Edu" means that many people need to be tased in the nads |
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saucerwizard
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saucerwizard@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-24 |
I recall there was a recent critical piece about it but I can’t remember where it was.
https://archive.ph/7L1KK |
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sc_griffith
awful.systems
sc_griffith@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-08-13 |
new development in ontology: "the ontology that makes ai models valuable is american" |
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Soyweiser
awful.systems
Soyweiser@awful.systems Joined: 2023-09-07 |
Anybody else having problems with archive.is and its variants? I keep getting into an infinite captcha loop. I already tried making it an dns over https exception in firefox, which worked once. E: tried a different browser, and same problem. Same on phone, it does work going from wifi to mobile however. E2: I seem to have fixed it, by oddly rebooting my router. Which makes no sense to me. |
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Soyweiser
awful.systems
Soyweiser@awful.systems Joined: 2023-09-07 |
new development in ontology: "the ontology that makes ai models valuable is american" https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mguiup62lt2j
"Our lethal capacities. Our ability to fight war." These are two different things. But I fear he doesn't get that. |
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corbin
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corbin@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-19 |
I heard somewhere that "there is no unitary self" can be a Buddhist teaching and TPOT draws on Western Buddhism. There is work to be done figuring out where they got their eclectic mix of techniques and terminology.
It's Hofstadter, isn't it? That's the author who I recognize most in these discussions, followed closely by Hermann Hesse. |
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CinnasVerses
awful.systems
CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
https://archive.ph/7L1KK Here it is!
The Cut seems to like articles on cults and abuse within small groups, since they have an article on the Zizians, and one on a Neo-Tantric sex group where Aella would feel at home |
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CinnasVerses
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CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
It's Hofstadter, isn't it? That's the author who I recognize most in these discussions, followed closely by Hermann Hesse.
Well, I think the Buddhist idea that the self is an illusion goes back 2500 years or more, but Douglas Richard Hofstadter might have introduced nerdy American sci-fi fans to the idea. |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
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CinnasVerses
awful.systems
CinnasVerses@awful.systems Joined: 2025-08-23 |
Anybody else having problems with archive.is and its variants? I keep getting into an infinite captcha loop. I already tried making it an dns over https exception in firefox, which worked once. E: tried a different browser, and same problem. Same on phone, it does work going from wifi to mobile however. E2: I seem to have fixed it, by oddly rebooting my router. Which makes no sense to me.
That specific instance of Archive Today seems to have been taken over by activists who edit their copies of some pages and performed a DDOS attack (although all I know comes from social media posts and news stories). https://www.avclub.com/archiveis-under-fbi-investigation |
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
Results are in: people hate AI more than they do ICE this has now been made into its own post
they're both worse |
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istewart
awful.systems
istewart@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-26 |
new development in ontology: "the ontology that makes ai models valuable is american" https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mguiup62lt2j
you gotta give him a morsel of credit, he's got his buzzword and he's stickin' to it |
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TinyTimmyTokyo
awful.systems
TinyTimmyTokyo@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-06 |
Anybody else having problems with archive.is and its variants? I keep getting into an infinite captcha loop. I already tried making it an dns over https exception in firefox, which worked once. E: tried a different browser, and same problem. Same on phone, it does work going from wifi to mobile however. E2: I seem to have fixed it, by oddly rebooting my router. Which makes no sense to me.
Depending on your DNS provider, you may not be able to use archive.today without infinite captchas. I believe Cloudflare (1.1.1.1) and NextDNS are affected this way. Google (8.8.8.8) apparently is not. |
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Soyweiser
awful.systems
Soyweiser@awful.systems Joined: 2023-09-07 |
That specific instance of Archive Today seems to have been taken over by activists who edit their copies of some pages and performed a DDOS attack (although all I know comes from social media posts and news stories). https://www.avclub.com/archiveis-under-fbi-investigation
Aren't they all ran by the same people? To be clear I also tried some of the archive variants. |
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Soyweiser
awful.systems
Soyweiser@awful.systems Joined: 2023-09-07 |
Depending on your DNS provider, you may not be able to use archive.today without infinite captchas. I believe Cloudflare (1.1.1.1) and NextDNS are affected this way. Google (8.8.8.8) apparently is not.
That is annoying. But thanks. |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
the Pentagon's CTO has AI psychosis now. sighhhhhhhhh The whole argument can just be countered with "if the Pentagon believes Claude is sentient and a danger to the military, then why make a deal with OpenAI to use ChatGPT, another LLM similar to Claude? Wouldn't that also be a danger of becoming sentient? and why are Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump planning to force Anthropic to comply after 6 months if they believe Claude shouldn't be in the military?? Why did you ask Anthropic to let you use Claude for mass surveillance and autonomous weapons if you believed it was sentient and a danger??" It just reeks of bullshit. "uhm actually we made Anthropic a supply chain risk because Claude is actually very dangerous and not because we're doing banana republic shit to anyone who disagrees with us. we are a very responsible and safe government. please dont impeach trump." |
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samvines
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samvines@awful.systems Joined: 2026-02-09 |
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zogwarg
awful.systems
zogwarg@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-04 |
new development in ontology: "the ontology that makes ai models valuable is american" https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mguiup62lt2j
Actually the race-realism use last week, combined with this one, makes me realize that for them it's just a fancy way of saying "world-view" [or what they consider to exist, and be true, which is not the craziest use of the word, but I would say unhelpful, and probably a small in-group marker]. It's just a way of calling biases/prejudice legitimate. And you know what, inasmuch the models have a "world-view" it IS annoyingly american in many ways. (at least the wrong kind of american.) |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
the Pentagon's CTO has AI psychosis now. sighhhhhhhhh The whole argument can just be countered with "if the Pentagon believes Claude is sentient and a danger to the military, then why make a deal with OpenAI to use ChatGPT, another LLM similar to Claude? Wouldn't that also be a danger of becoming sentient? and why are Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump planning to force Anthropic to comply after 6 m...
Reading comments cause I was bored, and had the misfortune to stumble upon this horribly formatted piece of work allegedly written by Claude |
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YourNetworkIsHaunted
awful.systems
YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems Joined: 2024-03-22 |
new development in ontology: "the ontology that makes ai models valuable is american" https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mguiup62lt2j
I mean I guess given how the current guy took a chainsaw to American soft power, industrial capacity, economic prospects, and so on I guess our wildly over funded military is probably the only comparative advantage we unambiguously hold onto. |
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zbyte64
awful.systems
zbyte64@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-06 |
Has anyone heard of the Internal Family Systems Model? One of the CFAR founders said he relied on it when he was designing self-help workshops. The IFS encourages you to see yourself as a system of entities and talk to them separately, and that reminds me of Ziz Lasota's two-hemispheres theory and Michael Vassar's jailbreaking.
Actually had a therapist introduce me to it. It can be a useful model, and if I were to boil it down to a single adage it would be: pay attention to how you talk to yourself. But I don't think it is as simple as saying you contain a multitude, each part was developed to help the person survive and as you get older you might collect more parts and suppress others. It actually reminded me a bit of Lacan and the developmental stages. |
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o7___o7
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o7___o7@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-08 |
Wew, Cory Doctorow sure is posting through it https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism |
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jaschop
awful.systems
jaschop@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-27 |
It turns out we didn't need that list of AI-corrupted open source projects after all... At this rate it's actually going to be easier to make a list of projects that don't have AI... Systemd and libuv now on the slop hype train
As for systemd... time to look at the BSDs? Was Debian among the anti-slop projects? Would be nice if they took an interest in preventing the slopification of one of their core system. |
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samvines
awful.systems
samvines@awful.systems Joined: 2026-02-09 |
Eh, straight pip with venv and pip-tools for support worked fine anyway. wrong uv! As for systemd... time to look at the BSDs? Was Debian among the anti-slop projects? Would be nice if they took an interest in preventing the slopification of one of their core system.
Different UV! Libuv is the event loop/scheduler that powers node.js. could be a funky new way to compromise a whole bunch of node applications Edit: typo - although "nose applications" being compromised sounds bad too. |
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jaschop
awful.systems
jaschop@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-27 |
Different UV! Libuv is the event loop/scheduler that powers node.js. could be a funky new way to compromise a whole bunch of node applications Edit: typo - although "nose applications" being compromised sounds bad too.
Ah, thanks! My expectations of node aren't much affected I guess. Bun.js maybe? |
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
Wew, Cory Doctorow sure is posting through it https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism
Nitpick but this is unusually sloppy for Doctorow. 1) People with Morgellon's don't believe they have wires growing out of sores, but fibres (which upon examination turn out to be cotton for clothes). 2) The original Morgellons is a putative children's disease «wherein they critically break out with harsh Hairs on their Backs, which takes off the Unquiet Symptomes of the Disease, and delivers them from Coughs and Convulsions.» Which is quite different from the modern condition, whose sufferers have skin sores anywhere in the body with fibrous material looking like lint, dandelion fluff etc., and not particularly associated with convulsions. And 3) The association between the two was made by Miriam Leitao, a mother who believes her son suffers from the disease, and has gone to countless doctors and media trying to prove it's real. So it's an attempt to legitimise the postulated disease by cherry-picking something "historical" that vaguely resembles it. |
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
It turns out we didn't need that list of AI-corrupted open source projects after all... At this rate it's actually going to be easier to make a list of projects that don't have AI... Systemd and libuv now on the slop hype train
Jesus. I've been advocating for a hall of fame of projects that explicitly reject LLMs; ctrl+f "Gentoo" on this very comment thread for the few examples I heard about. |
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corbin
awful.systems
corbin@awful.systems Joined: 2023-07-19 |
Well, I think the Buddhist idea that the self is an illusion goes back 2500 years or more, but Douglas Richard Hofstadter might have introduced nerdy American sci-fi fans to the idea.
I have time to quote at you now. Ziz's thoughts about dual-core brains sound like the thought experiments from "I" is a Strange Loop. In Chapter 15, "Entwinement", Hofstadter introduces the Twinwirld thought experiment: imagine a world where almost everybody is an identical twin, each pair of twins is given one name, twins go everywhere together, and identity is oriented around pairs instead of individuals. Quoting p215 from my copy:
The entire section is written like this. I've read a bit of the Zizian lore and it sounds like it was lifted straight out of this chapter with words replaced. p216 in particular really shows off the Hofstadter tendency towards neopronouns:
I don't really know about Vassar's writing. I do think that jailbreaking is somewhat related. I think that Hofstadter lays out their entire thesis in the first paragraph of Chapter 18, "The Blurry Glow of Human Identity", p259:
The second paragraph, right after that, might as well be quoted from LW. Check it out:
Buddhism's not part of the book. It is part of the roots of IFS, though! So I think that you'd be better served looking at IFS or the ways that people quote Hesse if you want to find those Buddhist influences. |
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jaschop
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jaschop@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-27 |
Wew, Cory Doctorow sure is posting through it https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism
Kind of wild that the guy who popularized "enshittification" as a term will die on the hill that the technology which drives the industrial enshittification of all human media is fine actually, because some people find the plugins useful. |
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jaschop
awful.systems
jaschop@awful.systems Joined: 2024-04-27 |
new development in ontology: "the ontology that makes ai models valuable is american" https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3mguiup62lt2j
I was low-key hoping for a technical philosophical article, which argues that to find any of this shit useful you need a distinctly american understanding of reality. |
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Anisette [any/all]
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anise@quokk.auJoined: 2026-02-15 |
Wew, Cory Doctorow sure is posting through it https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism
He knows how LLMs work, right? This really is just cope because he got called out for being weird about using them. Really fucking disappointing |
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samvines
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samvines@awful.systems Joined: 2026-02-09 |
Wew, Cory Doctorow sure is posting through it https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism
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mirrorwitch
awful.systems
mirrorwitch@awful.systems Joined: 2024-08-29 |
Wew, Cory Doctorow sure is posting through it https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism
This bothers me more than I can explain. ICE as autoimmune disorder presupposes that it's normally a good thing to have ICE around and it's just malfunctioning as an exceptional state of things. If ICE is an immune system (malfunctional or not), what are we immigrants? |
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BlueMonday1984
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BlueMonday1984@awful.systems Joined: 2024-02-02 |
New AI Killed My Job, focusing on educators getting screwed and the widespread impact on education. |
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scruiser
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scruiser@awful.systems Joined: 2023-08-29 |
the Pentagon's CTO has AI psychosis now. sighhhhhhhhh The whole argument can just be countered with "if the Pentagon believes Claude is sentient and a danger to the military, then why make a deal with OpenAI to use ChatGPT, another LLM similar to Claude? Wouldn't that also be a danger of becoming sentient? and why are Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump planning to force Anthropic to comply after 6 m...
I wonder if one of the reasons Pete Hegseth is going so hard after Anthropic is that he and other idiots in the Pentagon unironically believes shit like AI 2027 and so wants to soft nationalize the frontier companies so to control the coming AGI. Considering that one of the uses the DoD allegedly wants LLMs for is fully autonomous weapons that at the very least have a very distorted view of what the technology is capable of. Or they want an accountability sink so they can kill people with even less accountability. ...probably both. I find it darkly hilarious that the doomer crit-hype is finally coming around to bite them, not in the form of heavy handed shut-it-all-down regulation to stop skynet, but in the form of authoritarian wackos wanting to make sure they are the ones "in charge" of skynet. |
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scruiser
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scruiser@awful.systems Joined: 2023-08-29 |
It's true that these analogies can be stigmatizing, but they needn't be. As someone with an autoimmune disorder, I am not bothered by people who describe ICE as an autoimmune disorder in which antibodies attack the host, threatening its very life. This bothers me more than I can explain. ICE as autoimmune disorder presupposes that it's normally a good thing to have ICE around and it's just malf...
Yeah. When it comes down to it, the libs think the problem with Trump isn't the fundamentals of what he is doing, it is that he is doing it without decorum or checking all the legal boxes or saying the usual lib pabulum to justify American imperialism. Skipping the legal checks and decorum is also bad, but in fact kids in cages was horrible when Obama was doing it the "right" way. |
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Architeuthis
awful.systems
Architeuthis@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-02 |
He knows how LLMs work, right? This really is just cope because he got called out for being weird about using them. Really fucking disappointing
In the original post he kept referring to Ollama like it was an LLM instead of a server app that hosts LLMs so I'd say the jury's out on that. edit: I think he assumes that because he can load up a modest speech-to-text model locally and casually transcribe several hours of video resources in somewhat short order (this was apparently his major formative experience with modern AI) it works the same with e.g. coding. Like, hey gpt-oss please make sense of these ten thousand lines of context without access to a hundred bespoke MCP intermediaries and one or three functioning RAG systems as I watch the token generation rate slow to a trickle while the context window gradually fills up. |
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Anisette [any/all]
quokk.au
anise@quokk.auJoined: 2026-02-15 |
https://helenofdestroy.substack.com/p/grand-theft-reality h/t naked capitalism Those interested in upgrading to the full RealityPlus™ experience will soon have not one but three styles of brain chip to choose from, expanding Big Parasite’s vertically-integrated propaganda pipeline into a perfect server-to-cerebrum delivery system while realizing the transhumanist dream of merging with the machi...
I mean there are a few good sneers in this piece but the author seems to be a "jewish conspiracy seeks to control the world" type nazi, and I don't think we want to platform that kind of rhetoric |
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macroplastic
sh.itjust.works
macroplastic@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-11-17 |
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o7___o7
awful.systems
o7___o7@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-10-08 |
He knows how LLMs work, right? This really is just cope because he got called out for being weird about using them. Really fucking disappointing
This really seems to be the case. |
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This really seems to be the case.
@o7___o7 @anise Hey, can't get that SXSW London (a truly cursed event, but I digress) bag unless you're willing to say LLMs Are Good, Actuallysxswlondon.com/speakers/cory-d |
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Architeuthis
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Architeuthis@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-02 |
Wew, Cory Doctorow sure is posting through it https://pluralistic.net/2026/03/12/normal-technology/#bubble-exceptionalism
The one-shotting phenomenon (or how a positive initial experience with the technology seems to lead to a heavily biased view of its merits) should probably be considered a distinct cognitive bias at this point. Turns out a lot of bright people can't deal with a technology being utterly subjective in its efficiency, and also how that's specifically the part that reduces it to being so narrowly useful as to force the existential question, given the insane resource burn and the socioeconomic disruption that's part and parcel, even if like Doctorow you think that their rape and pillage of artist's rights and intellectual property in general isn't an especially big deal. Also, local LLMs are hardly extricable from the whole mess, they are basically a byproduct, and updated versions only will keep coming as long as their imperial size online counterparts remain a viable concern. |
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Architeuthis
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Architeuthis@awful.systemsJoined: 2023-07-02 |
They're not vibe-coding mission-critical AWS modules. Yes they are and It's worse than that, they're vibe coding critical operating system components
Wow, the whole thing is indefensibly capital-W wrong, just an utterly weird rose-tinted view of the current corporate experience. |
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lurker
awful.systems
lurker@awful.systems Joined: 2026-01-27 |
I wonder if one of the reasons Pete Hegseth is going so hard after Anthropic is that he and other idiots in the Pentagon unironically believes shit like AI 2027 and so wants to soft nationalize the frontier companies so to control the coming AGI. Considering that one of the uses the DoD allegedly wants LLMs for is fully autonomous weapons that at the very least have a very distorted view of wha...
That is absolutely the reason, or at least part of it. See: Pete Hegseth Got His Happy Meal and how AGI-is-nigh doomers own-goaled themselves |
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lurker
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