Alas, we cannot sue for wrong opinions :/

I dunno about the resource hog comment especially. I run it on a raspberry pi 5 just fine, and at least compared to mac os and windows 10, it always feels snappier to me on all the hardware I have been able to try multiple options on.

Gnome has the cube now.
I prefer gnome, so this was a wonderful surprise.

Reminds me of the old compiz days, beautiful stuff

KDE was wild a feral in the early days of plasma. It was heavier than GNOME. It was unstable. It was a nice visual refresh but functionally terrible. It’s really pulled away from that thankfully.

Yeah ofc it's stable by itself, but when you add hyprpm plugins, edit the configs to rely on them, create custom rules, and now steam is moving right as fast as my refresh rate

I tried Cosmic for a week. It looked nice but I returned to LXQt because I want:

• To display time in ISO 8601 without also messing with locales
• To customize my file manager columns
• To use Emacs in a terminal emulator
• To not have my windows scattered to the four winds every time I lock my screen because the fancy window tiling feature is half-baked
• To have the X window manager back. I'm sure some people with use cases besides mine that are compatible only with Wayland, but I simply don't see the need nor do I wish to be a guinea pig submitting bug reports when so many guinea pigs before me had years of their lives sacrificed polishing X.

Also, the performance of programs like the default Cosmic file manager was much slower then comparable alternatives like pcmanfm-qt which I know run fast even on 2005 Compaq laptop hardware.

Red Hat has invested so much in GNOME they will probably never want to hear about changing to KDE Plasma. And Suse will follow Red Hat (which never made sense to me).

I'm not sure what this means. But wow what an instance name.

It's a shame Dolphin gets it wrong. I hope that bug has been reported. And I'd love to find a way for non IT users to mount the share as a workaround to the missing functionality. But that's missing too.

x11 still running strong on my machine

Did anyone only just realise the smoking man in the background

Dolphin does mount it ...somewhere. Supposedly. I expect only KDE developers know where exactly.
You can get the same functionality using Gnome file manager and gio command, and you get your network share properly mounted in a file system, but then you won't be using KDE.

niri forever

hear me out. what do you do when the network share server is not always available? like because your system is a laptop, or because you are doing maintenance on your server and its off.

what I do is suffer the consequences of many software that does not handle it well, and freeze for a minute (or worse) when it tries to open the mounted share even when it shouldn't even try. multiple KDE apps are guilty of that, including dolphin and kate, but to some extent almost everything else too.
but that is not ideal.

dolphin manages your connection with kio, but only those things can use the share that are aware of kio. so qt apps mostly.

We only need xfce, let's delete the others

Cinnamon > KDE

My answer is killall -9

Gnome is the most stable DE with all features included, it also has minimal amount of system options to still have all features.

XFCE misses a lot of features, such as printers.
KDE has all bells and whistles but is less stable.

I'm still stuck on i3 and sway. I hear there's a version of KDE that is tiling...? But I haven't found anything definitive on that.

Any i3 lad around?

I have 3 full task bars:

KDE is not unstable, even heavily tweaked

SuSE use KDE as the default, them and Manjaro are the only two bigguns that do, really

"Am I interested in other DEs?" and "Will I install them?" are two different questions though. Yeah, I had fun running i3 years back, but i3 isn't the new hotness anymore, and there's not a snowball's chance in hell of me feeling like I have the time to learn and configure another WM. Absent my suddenly striking it rich and having entirely too much free time, I sincerely doubt there will come another time where I feel like I have that sort of time and nothing I'd rather use it for than such a mundane and endless task.

I want LXDE/LXQt to work so badly but I spend more time unbreaking shit than actually using my computer if I try to use them :(

Not the Suse professional edition that I tested a couple of weeks ago. Only the community editions default to KDE.

I love Gnome. People love to hate it, but it's workflow is SO good.

I think people just get annoyed that they can't force it to be whatever they want it to be. Which is fine, that's why other options exist!

But if you really go to the content-focused, workspace + keyboard shortcut flow Gnome is incredibly efficient, consistent, and stable.

Unpopular opinion #2: I love libadwaita and GTK4. Basically, I enjoy when devs are opinionated about things and build what they want to see in the world.

The adaptive part of libadwaita is really exciting for different form factors!

I just install 1980s pong OS. Humans should have stopped at this, So much is simplit times for us yes.

Khe Khing Kabout KDE Kis Kits Kobsession Kwith Kits Knaming Kheme.

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Nice, then I must be mistaken

TIL I am not a one.
I never chose XP; I didn't ever install that cartoonish bloatfest over win2k on my home pc.

Well, tiling window managers exist.

Just switch to sway. As far as I know, the config should be compatible (if you swap the complex utils for Wayland ones). But I haven't tried it (I do use river and really like it though, so I do recommend sway).

Edit: see this:https://github.com/swaywm/sway/wiki/i3-Migration-Guide

i used cinnamon in 2016 (worst time i think), then i briefly used gnome in '23.
i've been using kde since '25 and i regret i have no desire to use anything else anymore.

want a tiling wm? - just install a plugin and customize kde within 5 minutes

want to build a mediabox with a simple ui for use with a remote on a tv? - just adjust the sizes and find one of a million widgets!

do you want the ms win98 look? - it's 3 clicks away!

i am sure other DE's may be better for my specific usecases. but the flexibility of kde gives me good enough results within a familiar environment. i can change my whole computer experience in a few clicks and revert whenever on the same de!

to me, gnome seems to be just bad ui design for people with stockholm syndrome about it.

That's a pretty dumb reason, but that's what's been putting me off for so long. Oh well, I'm a konvert now...

Yeah, that's fine that's what you use. I don't have a pig in this fight. But I'm using Wayland because that's what Fedora has adopted for a good while now. I do have to say, it's been a seamless transition. Everything just works. My dual monitor setup, running Kinonite, has never been so easy and trouble free as it is with Wayland. The single monitor box I have with a low power mini desktop with 8Gbit of shared memory, runs Wayland without a hitch.

The thing is, everything has its time under the sun. Whether its X11 or you and me. The guy that has been maintaining X11 doesn't want to do it anymore. And it appears no one else wants to do it either. So X11 will fade away and Wayland will have it's time now. And someday Wayland will also be replaced. And people will mourn it's passing just like X11.

The fact MATE exists is proof I am far from alone in my views. Indeed, this is one of the benefits of FLOS software. Noone is ALLOWED, for example, to create a fork of Windows XP if they want to. Microsoft would quickly stamp down and take to court any attempt to do so. But you and I can both be Linux users who prefer different GUIs. Some of this simply comes down to preference - I prefer GNOME as it was before it was ruined and that is what MATE offers me 😄

Yes, and I prefer GNOME once it was modernized and made to look like it was not designed by 1990s developers (who are NOT designers, and it shows).

I still miss Windowmaker. :(

They dropped that for new programs years ago.

At least I know what your least favorite fighting game franchise is.

still stuck on i3 and sway

That's an odd statement. I'd place i3 and Sway deeper down the rabbit hole, being build-your-own[^1] as opposed to packaged deals like KDE.

[^1]: in the sense of building a configuration - not in the sense of compiling code.

Used to be, but then I moved to Wayland.

I care more about functionality than superficial design. I take a similar position in media (TV & film). For example, I love Babylon 5 even though the special effects are admittedly primitive compared to modern science fiction programs. The WRITING and DIRECTION in Babylon 5 is brilliant. I can forgive something superficial if there is substance to it

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Is "superficiality" not valuable in UI design? I look at these other DE settings UIs and they're an absolute mess. GNOME could do better also, but I pretty much can find everything common in an obvious place, and the more weird options are somewhere I can also find them, typically in GNOME tweaks.

In effect everything about UI design could be called superficial. But humans operate based on "superficial" things all the time. I could use a terminal to do many more things than I do (which is already a lot) but as a human I'm kinda evolved to operate visually, so I often opt for that. Nothing wrong with it.