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greenbelt
lemy.lol
greenbelt@lemy.lol Joined: 2025-09-11 |
Germans invented the printing press. They seem always at the front of decentralized media distribution technology lol. |
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Lileath
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-06-28 |
Hmm that's fascinating. I didn't realize you guys had such a strong cultural tendency towards privacy. Do you think there's a specific thing that caused it, or has it always been this way?
Most of this privacy fetish is purely performative though. The Schufa is a dystopian data collector with information on every German and despite a token focus on data privacy politicians pass more and more surveillance laws like using Palantir for the police and crackdowns on free speech and protesting in general. |
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kip
piefed.zip
kip@piefed.zip Joined: 2025-06-15 |
Not true. !Actually we will automate it!< :)
off topic but i've never seen this tg-spoiler before, it's much better than the normal click to dropdown one. looks good on piefed web ui but i clicked view original and it doesn't work on your own instance comparison
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python
lemmy.world
python@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Most of us speak pretty good English and German media absolutely sucks ass, so many people choose to exclusively hang out in English-speaking spheres i guess |
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GameOverFlow
lemmy.zip
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-03-04 |
du bist Beamter?
Das wäre schön. |
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obamacares
lemmy.ml
obamacares@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-03-15 |
I would guess because simply historically, we always were very private people. This was generally increased with the experiences during the second world war and after in East Germany, where there was widespread government spying and people spying on each other. Thus, we have lots of groups that are engaged with activism regarding privacy, and it's present in the collective consciousness. Reddit...
I lived in germany for a while and I loved this aspect from germans. It really bothers me when people are like "what do you need privacy for, what are you hiding" like the government always has the best intentions |
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obamacares
lemmy.ml
obamacares@lemmy.ml Joined: 2026-03-15 |
We have nothing elese do do because we never work and have to much money.
so this is what Merz was complaining about? |
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myotheraccount
lemmy.world
myotheraccount@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-27 |
Germans invented the printing press. They seem always at the front of decentralized media distribution technology lol.
*took credit for inventing the printing press ;-) |
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greenbelt
lemy.lol
greenbelt@lemy.lol Joined: 2025-09-11 |
Most of us speak pretty good English and German media absolutely sucks ass, so many people choose to exclusively hang out in English-speaking spheres i guess
luckily many Germans learn some English at school, also the languages seem really closely related, easy to learn. |
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greenbelt
lemy.lol
greenbelt@lemy.lol Joined: 2025-09-11 |
*took credit for inventing the printing press ;-)
They were the first to scale printing to mass producing the bible ... and introducing mass literacy in their country. |
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Aceticon
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-06 |
this part is about the early adoption hypothesis, and relies on one (!) table about the internet usage in Europe from 2000 to 2007 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Internet-usage-in-Europe-2000-2007_tbl9_4891139 we can distinguish a few groups: relatively wealthy countries with high percentages of internet adoption but with a small population size which translates into relative small proport...
After the 1974 revolution that overthrew Fascism Portugal had a couple of decades of being quite Leftwing during which it massivelly invested in Education, including tertiary education, so the generations now in their 50s and younger almost universally learned English language at a school and include a large proportion of people with higher degrees. There was also a period in the 80s/90s with some investment in adult education and that coincided with the fast growth of personal computing around here. Then add to that that fixed Internet is quite cheap (a TV + unlimited 200Mb fibre + fixed phone line monthly packets costs around €45 and recently some even cheaper and faster providers have entered the local market, so for example I pay €15/month for 1 Gbps fibre) and almost universally fibre, possibly because unlike in countries like the UK the incumbent telecom operator in Portugal for whatever reason didn't really manage to or tried to block the replacement of older internet access technologies with Fiber (I was living abroad at the time, so I don't know for sure, but the period with maybe the only half-way decent non-crooked government - led by the guy who now heads the UN - kinda overlaps with the time with fixed Internet started spreading, so maybe they actually did some proper, Northern-Europe quality legislation around data access infrastructure which yielded a far more competitive market than you see in places like the UK). I suspect some or all of these things explain why in this specific domain Portugal looks a lot more like smaller Northern European countries than it's tradition of being a Chunk Of South-America in Europe would lead one to expect. |
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GameOverFlow
lemmy.zip
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-03-04 |
because we never work so this is what Merz was complaining about? 😂
He still is. Lazy germans. Merz just hates us. |
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GarboDog
lemmy.world
GarboDog@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-11-12 |
Wym? There are nein Germans here! Ps, while not born in Spain, we’re in Spain!! Hello spain mentioned!! :D |
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SubArcticTundra
lemmy.ml
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-03 |
We have nothing elese do do because we never work and have to much money.
Ah of course! What illness are you off becaause of today? |
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GameOverFlow
lemmy.zip
GameOverFlow@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-03-04 |
Ah of course! What illness are you off becaause of today?
Like all germans we never work. What Merz said is true. |
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CanadaPlus
lemmy.sdf.org
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-12 |
They'll tell you before you can ask
Yeah, occasionally. Honestly that's fine, the annoying thing is when they assume everyone else is, too. |
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CanadaPlus
lemmy.sdf.org
CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Lemmy mostly Americans How can we even, like, know that?
I don't have hard data, but it seems self-evident just from my personal experience. And going back to the original point, it's a nation of 400 million. |
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PragmaticOne
lemmy.world
PragmaticOne@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-17 |
For the same reasons there are a lot of Nazi Americans on the Nazi owned Twitter. [Edit] Clearly I need to clarify. What I mean is that Germans are sensible people imo and they're not stupid to enough to use Twitter that is filled with arseholes and run by an arsehole. Hence their high usage of Lemmy. |
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Bloomcole
lemmy.world
Bloomcole@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-17 |
Other countries would have the courtesy to write in English. |
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Bloomcole
lemmy.world
Bloomcole@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-17 |
How many germans do you need to change a lightbulb? One. We are efficient and have no humour.
And always on the wrong side of history |
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Bloomcole
lemmy.world
Bloomcole@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-17 |
Ok, but if you consider that there are 80M Germans, there are also 60M French (+African countries), and 50M Spanish (+ LatAm). That would make for a language ratio of ~1:1:1 considering Europe alone. This clearly doesn't seem to be the case, so I'm just curious what the reason behind the strong adoption in German speaking countries could be...
60 millions Italian also. |
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BenLeMan
lemmy.world
BenLeMan@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-15 |
For the same reasons there are a lot of Nazi Americans on the Nazi owned Twitter. [Edit] Clearly I need to clarify. What I mean is that Germans are sensible people imo and they're not stupid to enough to use Twitter that is filled with arseholes and run by an arsehole. Hence their high usage of Lemmy.
Care to elaborate? |
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Appoxo
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-01 |
off topic but i've never seen this tg-spoiler before, it's much better than the normal click to dropdown one. looks good on piefed web ui but i clicked view original and it doesn't work on your own instance ::: spoiler comparison :::
Lol. Dunno why the fediverse seemingly couldnt standardize on a certain markdown flavor. Edit: |
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Master
sh.itjust.works
Master@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Lol. Using Sync for Lemmy as my client. So who knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Dunno why the fediverse seemingly couldnt standardize on a certain markdown flavor. Edit: PS: Yours doesnt work on my client:
one of the last holdouts! More power to you! Its not been updated in almost a year now so its starting to fall apart as the api changes. |
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Appoxo
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-01 |
one of the last holdouts! More power to you! Its not been updated in almost a year now so its starting to fall apart as the api changes.
Nah, that thing was broken even in the beginning... Oh well, am I right? :P |
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Theoriginalthon
lemmy.world
Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-18 |
The amount of American politics and culture on here for a start
To be fair the amount of absolute insanity coming out of the US is what's driving it. Luckily the UK has been fairly stable recently. |
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massi1008
lemmy.world
massi1008@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-01-17 |
Wasn't also /r/ich_iel a big part of the reddit exodus at one point?
Their reddit automod promots Lemmy on every post iirc |
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bonenode
piefed.social
bonenode@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-11-26 |
It's pretty much just that there are a lot of Germans. The population of Germany is about 80 million. All else being equal, there are 16 times more Germans online than us finns, for example. Next to the USs 300 million people, that's still one German about every 5 people. Add to that that Germans are definitely online more than americans, and yeah... A lot of Germans.
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MentalEdge
sopuli.xyz
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyzJoined: 2023-06-13 |
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The USs social media user count is at 73% of population, to Germany's 77%. Smaller difference that I expected, but I did remember correctly, that the US has lower penetration. USA does have higher time spent online per person though. |
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Muehe
lemmy.ml
Muehe@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-07-08 |
Interesting, although seeing as being sensitive about privacy isn't as big in other post communist countries (at least not here in Czechia), I assume it must just be a generic cultural trait
Well the German Democratic Republic is unique among the former USSR countries in that it was unified with the Federal Republic of Germany. The latter already had a strong focus on privacy laws resulting from the Nazi time (meaning there was strong mistrust towards the state, but Nazis trying to hide in plain sight was obviously also relevant). But when the sheer amount of information the communist intelligence services were storing on their citizens became known after reunification this pre-existing privacy bias was put into overdrive, it confirmed all the worst fears west Germans already had about the state becoming too powerful. |
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Master
sh.itjust.works
Master@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Nah, that thing was broken even in the beginning... Problem is, that I used it for >4 years on reddit and since the first exodus and the announcement of the lemmy client I never was much in the mood to switch. And I like the interface, so theres even less reason to switch. Oh well, am I right? :P
I had to switch to summit from sync during the last major lemmy update as it was breaking to many things. I miss it though. it was by far the best client (for me) and I hope dawson randomly appears with a patch that fixes everything... but his last post is over a year old and last major update much older lol. If its still working for what you use it for good on you! im jealous! |
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Appoxo
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-01 |
I had to switch to summit from sync during the last major lemmy update as it was breaking to many things. I miss it though. it was by far the best client (for me) and I hope dawson randomly appears with a patch that fixes everything... but his last post is over a year old and last major update much older lol. If its still working for what you use it for good on you! im jealous!
May I ask whats broken for you? |
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Master
sh.itjust.works
Master@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
May I ask whats broken for you?
A lot of picture dont work anymore only the thumbnails. Same for videos. Spoilers dont work as examples by this post. Sometimes I click a post and it shows the content but none of the comments load. Some of the other markdown language no longer works either. |
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Cricket [he/him]
lemmy.zip
Cricket@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-04 |
The impression I have is that Germans are bigger users of the Fediverse in general than other countries, as in statistically overrepresented. Mastodon is originally a German project. Germans also created a Fediverse application for buying and selling second-hand items, Flohmarkt (Flea Market). Some other posts here have mentioned that Germans are culturally/historically more interested in privacy than many others, which may help explain the interest in the Fediverse. Finally, Lemmy is also an European project, so it makes sense that there would be more Europeans here, and Germany is the largest European economy and the most populous Western-European nation. Those are all probably factors contributing to this. |
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SubArcticTundra
lemmy.ml
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-03 |
I want to know what the Spanish and French speaking internet users do instead. I’m Swedish and we definitely have a big presence on Reddit (and probably fediverse) relative to our population. So looks like another North vs South difference.
Same – where are they all? Probably in their pasticcerias drinking coffee and enjoying the sun (jealous!) |
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HiddenLayer555
lemmy.ml
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-09-13 |
I think it's more of a symptom of how narrow a view of the world you get from mainstream English language social media, even the view of other Western countries. Sites like Reddit are openly hostile to content in other languages since only English is allowed in the main subreddits and other languages are quarantined to dedicated language/country subreddits, while sites like Facebook/Twitter accept all languages but completely isolate different languages from each other to avoid the "bad UX" of seeing content in a language the user doesn't know. |
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notsosure
sh.itjust.works
notsosure@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-10 |
Care to elaborate?
Well: musk? His nazi salute? His nazi comments? Fits! |
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BenLeMan
lemmy.world
BenLeMan@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-15 |
Well: musk? His nazi salute? His nazi comments? Fits!
And that relates to Germans on Lemmy how exactly? |
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PragmaticOne
lemmy.world
PragmaticOne@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-17 |
And that relates to Germans on Lemmy how exactly?
See edited comment above. |
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BenLeMan
lemmy.world
BenLeMan@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-15 |
See edited comment above.
Thank you for the explanation. For some reason, your edit didn't show up for me at first but now I can see it. In my opinion there are still way too many people on X, Germans as well as others. |
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