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Artix isn't going to comply with age-gating.
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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#52 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wow sounds like they should only return an age bracket to mitigate most of those risks. Isn't it even better just to take nothing related to your age at all? ...the problem... But there isn't "the problem"; there are multiple problems. Isn't it good to have fewer problems? ...if your system is compromised... Also it's not just your system getting compromised that could be an issue. Say you put ...

That's a real good case for the application website not storing it (which is in the CA law)

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VonReposti feddit.dk VonReposti@feddit.dk
Joined: 2023-06-12
#53 · Quote Reply

If you think about it like that none of the proposed laws verify anything, even the worst one just verified you logged into the account with credentials for someone who put their DOB in the age bracket returned by the API

And that's why I fear what comes next now that the infrastructure has been set for sharing sensitive data like DoB. Brazil's law already stated that self-reporting age is not sufficient.

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drayva lemmy.ml drayva@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-09
#54 · Quote Reply

That's a real good case for the application website not storing it (which is in the CA law)

What about the websites that will store it anyway, despite it being illegal? And what about if the laws change?

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#55 · Quote Reply

And that's why I fear what comes next now that the infrastructure has been set for sharing sensitive data like DoB. Brazil's law already stated that self-reporting age is not sufficient.

By that logic you should disconnect from the Internet entirely and use templeOS.

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Rioting Pacifist lemmy.world RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#56 · Quote Reply

What about the websites that will store it anyway, despite it being illegal? And what about if the laws change?

What if they write a new law that says your computer must kill your nan and sleep with your mam? what if? What if? What if?

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drayva lemmy.ml drayva@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-09
#57 · Quote Reply

What if they write a new law that says your computer must kill your nan and sleep with your mam? what if? What if? What if?

Correct me if I'm wrong, by this rhetorical question you're saying "It's unrealistic to think that the laws will change, or that websites will break the current laws". Is that right?

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drayva lemmy.ml drayva@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-09
#58 · Quote Reply

What if they write a new law that says your computer must kill your nan and sleep with your mam? what if? What if? What if?

But actually I have a real answer to that question! In that scenario, I would... use a distro like Artix that chooses not to comply with that law 🤘

By all of your responses so far, I assume you would just be okay with computer and OS manufacturs obeying?

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FauxLiving lemmy.world FauxLiving@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-10
#59 · Quote Reply

Oh they passed a law that doesn't require age verification? But what if they passed it as a pretext to pass a different law later to kill your nan. It's disappointing to see the lack of good conversation around this isn't due to tool limitations or reddit being terribly moderated, but rather there are a lot of people who genuinely just want to invent stuff to get mad about and if you point out ...

But what if they passed it as a pretext to pass a different law later to kill your nan.

Hot takes and creative fiction is more entertaining than boring reality and that behavior is enforced by social media systems (like likes). It isn't fun to read 'they passed a law that's largely symbolic' as 'The end of the Internet is upon us'.

It’s disappointing to see the lack of good conversation around this isn’t due to tool limitations or reddit being terribly moderated, but rather there are a lot of people who genuinely just want to invent stuff to get mad about and if you point out that isn’t what’s happening they’ll just yell slippery nipples the sky is falling!!! Over and over.

Outrage and self-righteousness feel good and appearing cynical is a cheap way to look intelligent.

Alternatively, something like half of social media traffic was shown to be bot-sourced and a goal of adversarial influence campaigns is often to simply stir up conflict so I keep my sanity by believing that a good portion of them are not actual human people, just evil LLMs trying to piss everyone off (and a lot of the rest are simply people who've been fooled by the false consensus into aping those same bot tactics and/or literal children)

Some topics, like discussions around AI, are so heavily toxic that I find it hard to believe that it isn't being signal boosted in some way.

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drayva lemmy.ml drayva@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-11-09
#60 · Quote Reply

By that logic you should disconnect from the Internet entirely and use templeOS.

OR, we can just use a distro like Artix that doesn't comply with the law.

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deadcade lemmy.deadca.de deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de
Joined: 2023-06-06
#61 · Quote Reply

First Artix made me not vulnerable to the XZ backdoor (requires systemd). Now it saves me from age verification nonsense. Even on Lemmy sentiment seems people who avoid systemd are just cranks. But every time we are right.

Iirc, the XZ backdoor was specifically targeting RH and Debian, which for some reason link libsystemd into OpenSSH. Afaik even upstream Arch was unaffected, not just Artix. The exploit code, though non-functional, still made its way onto your system (assuming you updated when it was in a release version).

I'm not defending systemd though, it's clear that Poettering's goals do not align with the rest of the Linux community. I'm saying that Artix not being affected by the XZ backdoor is not a good argument for why to use Artix or avoid systemd.

It's like saying "Linux doesn't get malware" because most desktop malware targets the OS with the largest desktop userbase, Windows. This alone doesn't suddenly make Linux "better". That doesn't mean there aren't other reasons to avoid Windows.

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setVeryLoud(true); lemmy.ca isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-04-19
#62 · Quote Reply

it is copies?

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Eggymatrix sh.itjust.works Eggymatrix@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-09
#63 · Quote Reply

And only the 7 people using the OS will care.

The fact you have exactly 7 downvotes is hilarious

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