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The 10 Commandments apparently mentions absolutely nothing about protecting children from abuse.
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III lemmy.world III@lemmy.world
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#52 · Quote Reply

Technically there was mention about abusing children sexually as a sin, but they changed it to being gay is a sin. Saying the quiet part out loud.

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taygaloocat leminal.space taygaloocat@leminal.space
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#53 · Quote Reply

I'll confirm that for you, particularly the Pentecostals. They were neighbors of mine within spitting distance, and yet like 2 years before my father passed away, they were trying to talk with me behind his back to acquire his land. A part of me wanted to burn their fucking house down over that, but I'm better than that. After daddy passed, they acquired the land that I was supposed to inherit ...

There sounds like there's a lot missing here, and calling your father "Daddy" is weird.

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#54 · Quote Reply

There sounds like there's a lot missing here, and calling your father "Daddy" is weird.

Daddy refused the term 'father', as father is God, so I was forced to call him dad or daddy.

Yes there's a bit missing here, I'd rather not go over all the abuse I went through.

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ThomasWilliams lemmy.world ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world
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#55 · Quote Reply

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
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#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Interpretations are interesting, to say the least.

Almost all the holy commandments can be interpreted any which way a person decides to interpret them.

So, your interpretation seems to loosely be something like 'If I don't fuck a child or bomb a school, then Jesus will keep me safe'?

Jesus never had a gun, and God has all the asteroids. Wait wait, humans made the missiles and bombs...

Fuck I dunno where I'm going with this, do you?

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tronx4002 lemmy.world tronx4002@lemmy.world
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#57 · Quote Reply

"Ye Olde Testament"? Its not 'ye', its 'þe', the thorn character, pronounced today as it always was, 'the' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter) So educate yourself, and please drop all that 'ye' shit, all articles that reference ye are incorrect. 'ye' is a mistranslation itself.

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
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#58 · Quote Reply

Ight CM, take my upvote and go smoke a joint.

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Randomgal lemmy.ca Randomgal@lemmy.ca
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#59 · Quote Reply

No shit, the christian bible is absolute trash. Teaches you how to treat your slaves, can rape women, sell your daughter for foreskins. Daughters get their dad drunk and rape him. People that believe that shit have ZERO place in my life, and I will judge you. You can't have critical thinking and believe skydaddy is there with a grand plan while children are being raped, people murdered and dise...

I hope you can find peace and forgive whoever hurt you so bad.

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Randomgal lemmy.ca Randomgal@lemmy.ca
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#60 · Quote Reply

"Ye Olde Testament"? Its not 'ye', its 'þe', the thorn character, pronounced today as it always was, 'the' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter) So educate yourself, and please drop all that 'ye' shit, all articles that reference ye are incorrect. 'ye' is a mistranslation itself.

You think the bible was written in English...?

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#61 · Quote Reply

You think the bible was written in English...?

No shit Watson, it was written in Hebrew.

YHWH

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thermal_shock lemmy.world thermal_shock@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#62 · (edited) Quote Reply

I hope you can find peace and forgive whoever hurt you so bad.

I'm perfectly fine. Hearing about all these "men of God" molesting kids and acting like believing in God makes them better than everyone else is pretty ridiculous.

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-06-26
#63 · Quote Reply

I'll confirm that for you, particularly the Pentecostals. They were neighbors of mine within spitting distance, and yet like 2 years before my father passed away, they were trying to talk with me behind his back to acquire his land. A part of me wanted to burn their fucking house down over that, but I'm better than that. After daddy passed, they acquired the land that I was supposed to inherit ...

How is this the fault of all Christians?

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Possibly linux lemmy.zip possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip
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#64 · Quote Reply

Daddy refused the term 'father', as father is God, so I was forced to call him dad or daddy. Yes there's a bit missing here, I'd rather not go over all the abuse I went through.

Please go to therapy

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#65 · Quote Reply

Please go to therapy

Therapist died like 2 decades ago, what do with no insurance?

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#66 · Quote Reply

How is this the fault of all Christians?

I never said it was the fault of all Christians. Just the fault of Pentecostals and Mormans..

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m0darn lemmy.ca m0darn@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-15
#67 · Quote Reply

I don't feel bound by any part of the system of violent punishments that Jesus rebuked. Especially not one line which wasn't even from either listing of the Jewish law in the Torah. OTOH, there is something to be said for actually teaching children to behave. Using a rod to spank children is a failure of patenting, but so is letting your kid run around the restaurant making a mess because you c...

So how much child beating is necessary for it to not be hating a child? How much/little is abuse?

Beating children is not an effective way to get them to behave. But people didn't know that (and still don't) so they thought/think they need to beat good behaviour into their kids.

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CXORA aussie.zone CXORA@aussie.zone
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#68 · Quote Reply

Technically there was mention about abusing children sexually as a sin, but they changed it to being gay is a sin. Saying the quiet part out loud.

Which commandment is that? Which number, cos neither of those is in any list of the 10 commandments ive ever seen.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
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#69 · Quote Reply

Lots of people treating the Torah as exclusively Christian in here.

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OBJECTION! lemmy.ml Objection@lemmy.ml
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#70 · Quote Reply

Even before then. They're originally listed in Exodus. Fun fact, after the tablet smashing incident when Moses goes back up the mountain to get a new set carved in Exodus 32, several of those listed by god in the process of creating the replacements are different from the first ten. Depending on where you split the clauses, there are as many as 18 commandments between the first and the second s...

Depending on where you split the clauses, there are as many as 18 commandments

And here I thought it was fifteen.

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faythofdragons slrpnk.net faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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#71 · Quote Reply

It wasn't the norm, that's a myth. Child birth is dangerous, having children that young was even more dangerous. Children of rich families were married off young for political reasons, but even they waited with having children until they were older.

Do you have a source? I was always told that Roman patriacians were allowed to marry 12yo girls, but most girls married at 16, and that puberty was around 14-16.

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FatVegan leminal.space FatVegan@leminal.space
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#72 · Quote Reply

But the first four are about how much of a sad loser god you are praying to.

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Feathercrown lemmy.world Feathercrown@lemmy.world
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#73 · Quote Reply

I mean, there's only ten of them. It's not called God's Comprehensive List of All 283092893936 Immoral Actions.

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melfie lemy.lol melfie@lemy.lol
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#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
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#75 · Quote Reply

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LOL, I did actually link that somewhere in the comments. 👍

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DomeGuy lemmy.world DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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#76 · Quote Reply

So how much child beating is necessary for it to not be hating a child? How much/little is abuse? Beating children is not an effective way to get them to behave. But people didn't know that (and still don't) so they thought/think they need to beat good behaviour into their kids.

Do you want to have a real discussion about morality and religious teaching, or are you just in search of an gotcha quote because you feel the need to reinforce your theocratic nihilism by arguing with a theist on the internet?

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m0darn lemmy.ca m0darn@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-15
#77 · Quote Reply

Do you want to have a real discussion about morality and religious teaching, or are you just in search of an gotcha quote because you feel the need to reinforce your theocratic nihilism by arguing with a theist on the internet?

I mean I guess you got me, I was being a dick.

I am genuinely interested, but I wasn't acting like it, I was being needlessly provocative.

I've been learning a lot about Christian history but I'm frustrated because it (Christianity) doesn't really make sense.

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Nemoder lemmy.ml Nemoder@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-09
#78 · Quote Reply

I mean, there's only ten of them. It's not called God's Comprehensive List of All 283092893936 Immoral Actions.

“Father, bless me for I have sinned, I did an original sin… I poked a badger with a spoon.”
--Eddie Izzard

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BanMe lemmy.world BanMe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-01
#79 · Quote Reply

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The higher ed institution I work for is installing them in every classroom per a state law. Smh

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
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#80 · Quote Reply

The higher ed institution I work for is installing them in every classroom per a state law. Smh

Phuck ☹️

I wouldn't blame you or anyone really if people started printing out and installing a sticker paper banner under such displays that says something like..

"11 - Thou shalt protect the children at all times"

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Snailpick42 lemmus.org Snailpick42@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-01-30
#81 · Quote Reply

Nothing about slavery in the 10 commandments either. In fact, the deity in the bible explicitly advocates for slavery. Read Leviticus 21. The deity talks about how to treat your slaves and beat them as long as they don't die. Also, different rules for Hebrew slaves (the deitys people). Christians are sick mother fuckers that should abandon their holy book.

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over_clox lemmy.world over_clox@lemmy.world
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#82 · Quote Reply

Nothing about slavery in the 10 commandments either. In fact, the deity in the bible explicitly advocates for slavery. Read Leviticus 21. The deity talks about how to treat your slaves and beat them as long as they don't die. Also, different rules for Hebrew slaves (the deitys people). Christians are sick mother fuckers that should abandon their holy book.

Oof, phuck.

At least they fed the slaves right? A starving slave isn't going to be very productive are they?

Any wonder why over 400 TSA workers recently quit? No pay, can't even buy groceries..

And ain't it just cute, turnip gonna send in ICE agents...

Man its sad fucking times we live in right now :(

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Snailpick42 lemmus.org Snailpick42@lemmus.org
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#83 · Quote Reply

That's why the Republicans want them in classrooms, instead of "love thy neighbour as thyself". Because that would imply that racism is bad, and that's something they do not want to hear.

The bible is cherry picked to hell. Christians that actually read their holy book can justify racism, as their deity explicitly advocates for slavery in the bible. Slaves are property and not neighbors in their holy book. The bible is trash, and people should be wiping their asses with it instead.

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Zos_Kia jlai.lu Zos_Kia@jlai.lu
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#84 · Quote Reply

I mean I guess you got me, I was being a dick. I am genuinely interested, but I wasn't acting like it, I was being needlessly provocative. I've been learning a lot about Christian history but I'm frustrated because it (Christianity) doesn't really make sense.

I think a good pointer when you want to approach religion from a sane perspective is to treat it as primitive tech. For example, modern people know that you need to separate science from politics from law from history from psychology etc... and have a different system for each. But pre-modern people didn't necessarily know that, so religious doctrine had to serve several, sometimes incompatible purposes. You look at it and it's like a shovel that has a hammer on it and part of the hammer can be used as a screwdriver. It makes no sense but at the same time it kinda does and it sure has dug a lot of holes and tightened a lot of screws over millennia.

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Snailpick42 lemmus.org Snailpick42@lemmus.org
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#85 · Quote Reply

"Thou shalt not rape" just didn't make it onto the top 10 list.

Or "Thou shalt not own slaves" Instead the bible deity explicitly advocated for it and allows you to beat their ass as long as they don't die. Bible deity is a piece of shit!

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III lemmy.world III@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#86 · Quote Reply

Which commandment is that? Which number, cos neither of those is in any list of the 10 commandments ive ever seen.

Might I suggest 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture

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DomeGuy lemmy.world DomeGuy@lemmy.world
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#87 · Quote Reply

I think a good pointer when you want to approach religion from a sane perspective is to treat it as primitive tech. For example, modern people know that you need to separate science from politics from law from history from psychology etc... and have a different system for each. But pre-modern people didn't necessarily know that, so religious doctrine had to serve several, sometimes incompatible...

A comparison of religion to legal systems is both only a sensible comparison to the three Abrahamic religions and incredibly useful for those three. (Other religions such as Buddhism are more starkly personal).

Essentially no Christian, Muslim, or Jew in any century takes the common scripture and reads it like an RPG manual for the game of life. Either they're laypersons who rely upon the guidance of experts, or they're the experts and they approach it with the advantage and bias of the years of study it took to become experts. And if those experts are wrong, there is always some authority to correct and rebuke their interpretation.

Ignoring the Protestant schism for a moment, this is exactly how the USA's legal system works. The body of written law and judicial interpretation are extremely complex and nobody relies only on the plain text of the law when they want to figure out how it affects them. Even the crazy sovereign citizens mostly rely on someone else's interpretation.

(And "sane" isn't really a helpful label here. It encourages atheists to think about Christians as if the latter are entirely unpredictable and unreasonable, when it's much more useful to think of us as mostly rational people who have a philosophical difference with you. More akin to the leftist/progressive/liberal/socialist discussion you can see on Lemmy than a MAGA/non-MAGA encounter.)

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CXORA aussie.zone CXORA@aussie.zone
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#88 · Quote Reply

Might I suggest 1946: The Mistranslation That Shifted Culture

No you might not. I asked a really simple question, you should be able to answer it in one word, or better yet by providing the book, chapter and verse.

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Treczoks lemmy.world Treczoks@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#89 · Quote Reply

The bible is cherry picked to hell. Christians that actually read their holy book can justify racism, as their deity explicitly advocates for slavery in the bible. Slaves are property and not neighbors in their holy book. The bible is trash, and people should be wiping their asses with it instead.

So, like many people, have completely not understood how this bible and Christianity thing works.

The ten commandments, together with the other laws of Exodus and Deuteronomy, are part of the old covenant. The key thing of Christianity is that Jesus set up a new covenant, replacing the old with the simple formula "love thy neighbor like thyself". The old ten commandments (at least 4-10) can be seen as an interpretation of that new covenant. Many of the other laws of the Pentateuch, like the slavery laws, not so much.

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Zos_Kia jlai.lu Zos_Kia@jlai.lu
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#90 · Quote Reply

I never said Jesus never existed, but also I have no reason to believe he was any better or worse than any other innocent person murdered by the government of the time. To obsess about one single person killed by corrupt government over 2000 years ago is to ignore the genocide going on today. ☹️

The significance of Jesus is the movement he spawned. I'm not talking about the Catholic church as it was codified by the Romans a few centuries after his death, but about the movement of Jesus which spread far and wide directly after he died. This movement flourished not by the blade and the authority of oppressive regimes, but because it simply spoke deeply to people, especially the poor and disenfranchised. This kind of thing only happened a handful of times during history.

He was important because he created a blueprint for resistance of the oppressed, in a time where such resistance was a very hard sell because it went so contrary to the norms and cultures.

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Snailpick42 lemmus.org Snailpick42@lemmus.org
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#91 · Quote Reply

So, like many people, have completely not understood how this bible and Christianity thing works. The ten commandments, together with the other laws of Exodus and Deuteronomy, are part of the old covenant. The key thing of Christianity is that Jesus set up a new covenant, replacing the old with the simple formula "love thy neighbor like thyself". The old ten commandments (at least 4-10) can be ...

Then the old testament should just be tosses out. Obsolete. Instead, it's cherry picked. The bible is complete trash.

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cravl slrpnk.net cravl@slrpnk.net
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#92 · Quote Reply

The true heathens are the people with their cap on backwards, shading their eyes from the sun with their hands.

Eh, not as much as you'd think. The back of your neck near the brainstem is crucial to temperature regulation. That's why the go-to advice to alleviate heat stress is putting something cool like a wet towel around your neck. During midday when the sun is highest, keeping the sun off the back of your neck may well keep you cooler than keeping it off your face. Using your hands to shield your eyes occasionally looks a heck of a lot less dumb than keeping your hands up to shield the back of your neck.

Moral of the story, baseball hats are great for watching baseball, where you're sitting facing one direction the whole time and can orient them accordingly. For general outdoor work, a sun hat with a neck flap is waaayyy better.

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