RetroFed Forum
Your home away from modern life.
NetBird - Open Source Zero Trust Networking (German alternative to Tailscale)
Post Reply
AuthorMessage
Blaze piefed.zip Blaze@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-06-13
Quote

WireGuard®-based overlay network and Zero Trust Network Access in one platform for reliable and secure connectivity

90   Original
Leon pawb.social Dojan@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-03-20
#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

Oh, this looks interesting! And it doesn't require you to use some bullshit third party provider to sign up, unlike Tailscale. Nice!

--
Edit

So I spun it up on my VPS. The install script they offer on Github is super nice. Gave you a snippet to plonk into Caddy, and voila. It's up and running. It's very reminiscent of Tailscale.

Works like a charm, really.

Bye bye Tailscale.

24
gjoel programming.dev gjoel@programming.dev
Joined: 2024-04-09
#3 · Quote Reply

Cool, let's give it a whirl! I accidentally installed the server (for completely self hosted usage) on my home assistant, but now that I got the client installed it looks a lot like tailscale.

5
atro_city fedia.io atro_city@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-08-05
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

AlternativeTo lists HeadScale as a direct opensource, self-hosted implementation of Tailscale. Why go for Netbird which seems to be a closedsource implementation?

Edit: whoops, netbird is also opensource! Never used these. I'll have a look. Thanks for sharing. Maybe self-hosting with these is safer than making it available to the open internet - and easier!

8
scrion lemmy.world scrion@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-07
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

AlternativeTo lists HeadScale as a direct opensource, self-hosted implementation of Tailscale. Why go for Netbird which seems to be a closedsource implementation? Edit: whoops, netbird is also opensource! Never used these. I'll have a look. Thanks for sharing. Maybe self-hosting with these is safer than making it available to the open internet - and easier!

So that you can get a version that you don't have to host yourself? Needs differ, and businesses exist, you know.

Also:

2
Creat discuss.tchncs.de Creat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-16
#6 · (edited) Quote Reply

AlternativeTo lists HeadScale as a direct opensource, self-hosted implementation of Tailscale. Why go for Netbird which seems to be a closedsource implementation? Edit: whoops, netbird is also opensource! Never used these. I'll have a look. Thanks for sharing. Maybe self-hosting with these is safer than making it available to the open internet - and easier!

Where the hell did you get that idea? Netbird is fully open source, including the server power you need for brokering. Afaik that part isn't open for Tailscale. You can use none of their infrastructure and not even have an account with them and fully use netbird. You can't do that with Tailscale. See reply from Dojan who did just that, here in this thread.

To be clear, Tailscale is relatively open and generally considered a "good" company, but you still need to use their infrastructure in order to use it. Netbird is fully open.

8
divad piefed.social divad@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-02
#7 · Quote Reply

We use this at work to connect to our internal network. It has a native Linux cliënt. My experience with it has been good.

7
0^2 lemmy.dbzer0.com zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-20
#8 · Quote Reply

Where the hell did you get that idea? Netbird is fully open source, including the server power you need for brokering. Afaik that part isn't open for Tailscale. You can use none of their infrastructure and not even have an account with them and fully use netbird. You can't do that with Tailscale. See reply from Dojan who did just that, here in this thread. To be clear, Tailscale is relatively o...

I heard there is an sso tax, is this true with the locally hosted server?

1
Creat discuss.tchncs.de Creat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-16
#9 · Quote Reply

So that you can get a version that you don't have to host yourself? Needs differ, and businesses exist, you know. Also:

The official service, hosted by them, exists. You can pay for it just like for Tailscale. If you don't wanna host, use that (like a business might). But you can still see and audit the whole source, including what they are hosting for you, because even that is open source.

2
Creat discuss.tchncs.de Creat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-16
#10 · Quote Reply

I heard there is an sso tax, is this true with the locally hosted server?

As far as I know, you can just do that with no cost. But I'm not using it myself, so just check their docs?

1
oyzmo piefed.social oyzmo@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-06
#11 · Quote Reply

Very easy and stable to use! But have they fixed the battery use on ios? When I tried it 1y+ ago, it was a major drain on battery (where as tailscale hardly drain any)

1
0^2 lemmy.dbzer0.com zer0squar3d@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-20
#12 · Quote Reply

As far as I know, you can just do that with no cost. But I'm not using it myself, so just check their docs?

Checked docs and sso.tax and seems fine. Cant really trust docs often times they only mention how to set it up not that it cost anything.

2
fruitycoder sh.itjust.works fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-11
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sweet! Ive been struggling to find an option like this!

Anyone have a helm chart yet?

1
hietsu sopuli.xyz hietsu@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-07-01
#14 · (edited) Quote Reply

Just for heads up, this seems to mess your DNS by default. At least on my Raspberry Pi OS it rewrote /etc/resolv.conf to point to its own DNS which only knew NetBird hostnames, nothing else.

Fixed this with:

sudo netbird down
sudo cp -f /etc/resolv.conf.original.netbird /etc/resolv.conf
sudo netbird up --disable-dns

Also, pings seem to be consistently about double compared to Tailscale between the same hosts.

2
Post Reply
Back to top