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Pierre-Yves Lapersonne
programming.dev
pylapp@programming.devJoined: 2023-11-04 |
About enshitification, open source and AI pollution |
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Shimitar
downonthestreet.eu
Shimitar@downonthestreet.euJoined: 2025-01-28 |
Really awful website with more ads and shit than content. Nevertheless worrysome and indeed food for tough. Ai is here to stay, so we all need to find ways to deal with it, that we like it or not. Maybe specialized humans in detect ai slop? Because using ai to detect ai seems kind of hironic. |
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ttyybb
lemmy.world
ttyybb@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-15 |
Really awful website with more ads and shit than content. Nevertheless worrysome and indeed food for tough. Ai is here to stay, so we all need to find ways to deal with it, that we like it or not. Maybe specialized humans in detect ai slop? Because using ai to detect ai seems kind of hironic.
Use ai to make code to detect and block AI. Actually though wish we could force an AI tag tat could just be blocked with UBO |
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SlimePirate
lemmy.dbzer0.com
SlimePirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-11-24 |
Really awful website with more ads and shit than content. Nevertheless worrysome and indeed food for tough. Ai is here to stay, so we all need to find ways to deal with it, that we like it or not. Maybe specialized humans in detect ai slop? Because using ai to detect ai seems kind of hironic.
There is the new vouch system too |
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DarkCloud
lemmy.world
DarkCloud@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-19 |
Really awful website with more ads and shit than content. Nevertheless worrysome and indeed food for tough. Ai is here to stay, so we all need to find ways to deal with it, that we like it or not. Maybe specialized humans in detect ai slop? Because using ai to detect ai seems kind of hironic.
Humans in the loop? Code would have to be read and understood by the human, in relation to the problem being resolved, and the rest of the code base it may or may not interact with... And that's difficult. |
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DarkCloud
lemmy.world
DarkCloud@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-19 |
Use ai to make code to detect and block AI. Actually though wish we could force an AI tag tat could just be blocked with UBO
But what polices that? And what's to stop humans pasting in the AI code, which may look like human code, just behave poorly or contain hallucinations. |
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DarkCloud
lemmy.world
DarkCloud@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-19 |
Anyone else suspect commercial game engine are doing this to attack their FOSS (free open source software) competitor? Unlike other engines Godot asks nothing of its users. No money, no tie in to their sales platform. It's literally just good free software anyone is invited to try. Sad to see it dealing with this. FOSS may be under a kind of intentional AI attack. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
Can they require that all code submissions have a natural language summary of it included? |
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e8CArkcAuLE
piefed.social
e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-12 |
Anyone else suspect commercial game engine are doing this to attack their FOSS (free open source software) competitor? Unlike other engines Godot asks nothing of its users. No money, no tie in to their sales platform. It's literally just good free software anyone is invited to try. Sad to see it dealing with this. FOSS may be under a kind of intentional AI attack.
yes, exactly my thoughts. |
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pr06lefs
lemmy.ml
pr06lefs@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-07-21 |
if the bubble ever collapses maybe AI use will cost too much to harass FOSS projects with it. |
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circuitfarmer
lemmy.sdf.org
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.orgJoined: 2023-06-13 |
if the bubble ever collapses maybe AI use will cost too much to harass FOSS projects with it.
This. AI is not and will not be profitable. It's afloat because of an investor circlejerk. Once they get off then it's over. A waiting game. |
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hemko
lemmy.dbzer0.com
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Can they require that all code submissions have a natural language summary of it included?
AIs are better at that than most humans lol |
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ilinamorato
lemmy.world
ilinamorato@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-27 |
Can they require that all code submissions have a natural language summary of it included?
AI can do that. At least well enough to not help, and it would make actual human-generated code harder. |
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Vex_Detrause
lemmy.ca
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-02-28 |
Can anyone describe the process of code contribution with open-source. It's it like anyone hands in a code. |
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chrash0
lemmy.world
chrash0@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-03 |
Can anyone describe the process of code contribution with open-source. It's it like anyone hands in a code.
generally yeah. the problem is that the barrier to entry used to be higher so fewer people knew how to write code to integrate with the project before coding agents. now anyone who can install Claude Code has a seat at that table |
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jeinzi
discuss.tchncs.de
jeinzi@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Can anyone describe the process of code contribution with open-source. It's it like anyone hands in a code.
You make a copy of the code ("fork") for yourself, make edits, then request that your changes be accepted into the original project ("pull/merge request"). Someone from the project has to check the edits, make that decision and hit accept or decline. |
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OwOarchist
pawb.social
OwOarchist@pawb.social Joined: 2026-02-13 |
You make a copy of the code ("fork") for yourself, make edits, then request that your changes be accepted into the original project ("pull/merge request"). Someone from the project has to check the edits, make that decision and hit accept or decline.
Ideally, you'd also first talk to the developers in charge of the project to see if your changes would be wanted in the first place. (Or you'd start by reviewing existing bug reports and feature requests and addressing one of those.) What I mean is, it's generally better to not just throw code at them and hope they'll like it. If you check first to see if they want it, you can save yourself from wasting effort on writing code that they'll decline. |
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Venat0r
lemmy.world
Venat0r@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Ideally, you'd also first talk to the developers in charge of the project to see if your changes would be wanted in the first place. (Or you'd start by reviewing existing bug reports and feature requests and addressing one of those.) What I mean is, it's generally better to not just throw code at them and hope they'll like it. If you check first to see if they want it, you can save yourself fro...
I assume when people do that it's because they're going to be making the fork regardless, and they think they're being helpful by submitting a pull request with thier AI slop... But really they should just keep it on thier own fork if they don't understand the changes but want to use it regardless... |
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sep
lemmy.world
sep@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Anyone else suspect commercial game engine are doing this to attack their FOSS (free open source software) competitor? Unlike other engines Godot asks nothing of its users. No money, no tie in to their sales platform. It's literally just good free software anyone is invited to try. Sad to see it dealing with this. FOSS may be under a kind of intentional AI attack.
Hanlons razor.. probably just lots and lots of peaple + stupidity. But it could very well be both.. |
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Shimitar
downonthestreet.eu
Shimitar@downonthestreet.euJoined: 2025-01-28 |
Humans in the loop? Code would have to be read and understood by the human, in relation to the problem being resolved, and the rest of the code base it may or may not interact with... And that's difficult.
If ai slip vibe code is so shitty, then it should be pretty easy for humans to detect it and shut down without wasting too much time right? |
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Shimitar
downonthestreet.eu
Shimitar@downonthestreet.euJoined: 2025-01-28 |
But what polices that? And what's to stop humans pasting in the AI code, which may look like human code, just behave poorly or contain hallucinations.
Write tests and actually do the practice of testing every single line with no regression testing. That will solve the AI problem. Since if it does work, there is no problem. If doest work just remove it. If it does work, who cares if it's AI or not? |
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Cethin
lemmy.zip
Cethin@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-07-01 |
if the bubble ever collapses maybe AI use will cost too much to harass FOSS projects with it.
It won't sadly. I can run many on my computer. They'll still be available, even if every server-based one goes down. |
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webp
mander.xyz
webp@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-09 |
It won't sadly. I can run many on my computer. They'll still be available, even if every server-based one goes down.
But will there still be big tech saboteurs? |
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nullroot
lemmy.world
nullroot@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-08-12 |
I'm thinking we are going to have to come up with a way to vet contributors before allowing them to contribute code. This will likely reduce the overall contributions of people given we're creating a barrier to entry, but so many of these FOSS projects are just straight getting overwhelmed with this shit. Something needs to change. |
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DarkCloud
lemmy.world
DarkCloud@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-19 |
If ai slip vibe code is so shitty, then it should be pretty easy for humans to detect it and shut down without wasting too much time right?
No, it's shitty because it's complicated, looks correct, but actually filled with errors and hallucinations. Including libraries that may not exist, and that leaves code open to injection attacks (where people make fake libraries/dependies based on commonly hallucinated code, then package them with genuine FOSS software which is now playing cover for malware/viruses). |
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DarkCloud
lemmy.world
DarkCloud@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-19 |
Write tests and actually do the practice of testing every single line with no regression testing. That will solve the AI problem. Since if it does work, there is no problem. If doest work just remove it. If it does work, who cares if it's AI or not?
Maybe big companies and projects with lots of people do white tests, but indie devs don't. FOSS is not the well organized machine you may have it confused for. |
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