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pieland piefed.social pieland@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-10
#52 · (edited) Quote Reply

lol what’s the alternative? Tax the shit out of them. That amount of wealth is a danger to every democracy and the planet.

i’m not 100% sure, but i think they meant alternative to the cops, not the wealthy

@capital_sniff@lemmy.world which, i mean. police the police or something. not to mention the system needs so many reforms in general

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matlag sh.itjust.works matlag@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
#53 · Quote Reply

Years ago there was a sketch in France making parody of local news to denounce racism: Anchor: "A man shot at a group of Arabs arguing they were too loud. After investigations, the police concluded that indeed, the Arabs were too loud".

This news brought that immediately in my mind.

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matlag sh.itjust.works matlag@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
#54 · Quote Reply

What's the alternative though? Let everyone be above the law? Because, that just sounds like a recipe for more trouble.

It's ironic how your first thought is not to make them accountable in front of the law just like everyone else.

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ZombiFrancis sh.itjust.works ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-24
#55 · Quote Reply

Good ol Socko.

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uienia lemmy.world uienia@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-15
#56 · Quote Reply

So they were just... following orders?

They are not exempt from guilt, but the that is not the point. The point is that this is not just yet another example of random police brutality and abuse of their powers. This is oligarch dictated suppression of dissidents.

It is different and much more serious than just "cops being abusive assholes".

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azimir lemmy.ml azimir@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-02
#57 · Quote Reply

One of our local public transit advocates did nothing more than present at city council meetings. They ordered the security team to follow him everywhere in the building, to the bathroom, and his car.

Even basic challenges to the people in your government is all too often met with straight up oppression tactics. He got them to stop by going to the press with it. Nothing else worked except more public pressure.

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mitkase lemmy.world mitkase@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-01-25
#58 · Quote Reply

“Shut up, Poors.”

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elucubra sopuli.xyz elucubra@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-03
#59 · Quote Reply

These times are going to make The Onion irrelevant.

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PapaStevesy lemmy.world PapaStevesy@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-18
#60 · Quote Reply

while I don't disagree with your statement, I'm certain that it was not the cops who made this call.

You mean like someone hacked their brain stems and was controlling them remotely? Yeah, that is a problem...

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Cnote5 lemmy.world Cnote5@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-20
#61 · Quote Reply

I’m stealing the phrase ‘Epstein class’, that’s a great way of explaining how horrific the rich and powerful are

I've been using "predator class."

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#62 · Quote Reply

while I don't disagree with your statement, I'm certain that it was not the cops who made this call.

It doesn't matter, they did the will of whoever made the call. That's why we say ACAB, because cops either enforce the will of the ruling class (thus making them bastards) or they lose their jobs and stop being cops.

ACAB has always been a message of class struggle and how all of us have to stand tall and refuse to betray our class interests. Cops betray working class interests for a paycheck and a feeling of superiority.

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TronBronson lemmy.world TronBronson@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#63 · Quote Reply

Yah bruh don't be rousing the rabble! You rabble rouser you!

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TronBronson lemmy.world TronBronson@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

You're only allowed to protest low-income housing in your local town you fucking idiot! God know's that's how democracy works dumby~

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SnarkoPolo lemmy.world SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-08
#65 · Quote Reply

Hail Capitalism, hail the Job Creators. /s

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#66 · (edited) Quote Reply

This data center they're hysterically agitating to build is going to take part of someone's yard, someone's entire house and property, and it will be right by a neighborhood making it's stupid noise. And a lot of people outside of the town will have to deal with $400 per month electric bills, and they just can't afford it.

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-03-07
#67 · Quote Reply

It doesn't matter, they did the will of whoever made the call. That's why we say ACAB, because cops either enforce the will of the ruling class (thus making them bastards) or they lose their jobs and stop being cops. ACAB has always been a message of class struggle and how all of us have to stand tall and refuse to betray our class interests. Cops betray working class interests for a paycheck a...

If you read my comment, I did agree with the blame being put on the cops. I just wanted to also highlight the politicians who made the call.

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-03-07
#68 · Quote Reply

You mean like someone hacked their brain stems and was controlling them remotely? Yeah, that is a problem...

while the cops are blame (I agreed with the ACAB statement) I also deserve the higher ups are to be blamed.

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-03-07
#69 · Quote Reply

No, it is, they decide whether to make the arrest or not. They decided to violate the first amendment, and embraced a bad faith request by a cynical and corrupt local lawmaker bought out by the tech industry. That is no cop out that they were "ordered" from a city council member, they take an oath to protect and defend the constitution, and other laws, and don't get to cop out to following orde...

I never indicated that that cops did anything right here, did i?

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-03-07
#70 · Quote Reply

So they were just... following orders?

yes, and they are to blame.
but so are those who gave the orders.

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cynar lemmy.world cynar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#71 · Quote Reply

Police officers always seem to align with the interests of the capitalist (Epstein) class. What is it about that job that attracts so many people with contempt for the working class?

The answer is quite mundane. I've a few friends in a (non-US) police force. The answer is that the rich/powerful are annoying as hell to go against.

They either know the law, or pay someone to know it for them. They can make obviously illegal things legal on paper. They can also nitpick everything. E.g. spending £5K on lawyers to get out of a £100 fine, since they don't want to get the points. Any procedural mistakes, or paperwork errors can kill a case, or at least drag it out for years.

They also have contacts that can apply pressure. When their wife knows your boss's, boss's boss's wife, they can make your life and career VERY uncomfortable.

End result, most officers learn to pick their battles with the rich and powerful. They will make your life hard, and will get away without everything being perfect.

In practice this can easily turn into taking the easy road. Even when the rich aren't even technically in the right.

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conartistpanda lemmy.world conartistpanda@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-12
#72 · Quote Reply

yes, and they are to blame. but so are those who gave the orders.

So ACAB+

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ZILtoid1991 lemmy.world ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-16
#73 · Quote Reply

How long until someone shoots up a construction site for a data center?

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#74 · Quote Reply

How long until someone shoots up a construction site for a data center?

Don't even have to go that far. There are cheap and easily available perfectly safe substances that can be dumped on freshly poured concrete, or in empty forms, that keeps concrete from setting up correctly.

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EndlessNightmare reddthat.com EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
Joined: 2024-03-24
#75 · (edited) Quote Reply

I've been using "predator class."

I've used "parasite class," but I think yours is more fitting

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-12
#76 · (edited) Quote Reply

The party of “small government” . I’m sure he’s on the maga cancel culture concentration camp list now..brought to you by palantir because f you

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ipkpjersi lemmy.ml ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-29
#77 · Quote Reply

That YouTube video is wild. Approximately 20 seconds from being first notified that his time was up, officers had already come up to him. 20 seconds. He handed them his documents. He was done. There was no logical reason for the arrest.

Sure there was, they wanted to show their power.

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Truscape lemmy.blahaj.zone Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-20
#78 · Quote Reply

The answer is quite mundane. I've a few friends in a (non-US) police force. The answer is that the rich/powerful are annoying as hell to go against. They either know the law, or pay someone to know it for them. They can make obviously illegal things legal on paper. They can also nitpick everything. E.g. spending £5K on lawyers to get out of a £100 fine, since they don't want to get the points. ...

Plausible deniability is the name of the game, or as my lawyer relative would put it - "without the letter of the law (and hard evidence) on your side, don't bother pursuing based on the spirit, no matter how blatant."

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undefined lemmy.hogru.ch undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
Joined: 2024-11-07
#79 · Quote Reply

Stupidity. Cops are almost entirely made up of people who were too stupid to get a white collar job.

Yikes, I really can’t get on board with “blue collar workers are morons”-style thinking.

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undefined lemmy.hogru.ch undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch
Joined: 2024-11-07
#80 · Quote Reply

This data center they're hysterically agitating to build is going to take part of someone's yard, someone's entire house and property, and it will be right by a neighborhood making it's stupid noise. And a lot of people outside of the town will have to deal with $400 per month electric bills, and they just can't afford it.

Maybe this is the (unfortunate) push that drives renewables.

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rockSlayer lemmy.blahaj.zone rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-02-24
#81 · Quote Reply

Don't even have to go that far. There are cheap and easily available perfectly safe substances that can be dumped on freshly poured concrete, or in empty forms, that keeps concrete from setting up correctly.

Sugar is very effective at destroying concrete

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Ulrich feddit.org Ulrich@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-12-22
#82 · Quote Reply

That YouTube video is wild. Approximately 20 seconds from being first notified that his time was up, officers had already come up to him. 20 seconds. He handed them his documents. He was done. There was no logical reason for the arrest.

Link?

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orioler25 lemmy.world orioler25@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-19
#83 · Quote Reply

Maybe this is the (unfortunate) push that drives renewables.

These are the same material limitations that has driven renewables for decades, the US has an ideological dedication to absorbing the consequences of sustaining fossil fuel use anyway. The US is a for-profit imperial power with an owning class who sees anyone and everyone beneath them as exploitable and disposable. People in the US have tolerated the fossil fuel industry making their lives worse consistently for decades. Those same people will always adjust to worse conditions if they have to, and that owning class knows it.

There is no breaking point, people have to choose to accept the consequences of resisting with the knowledge that these people will never stop unless forced to.

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brownsugga lemmy.world brownsugga@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-20
#84 · Quote Reply

lets you know who paid the council

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RoidingOldMan lemmy.world RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-09
#85 · Quote Reply

Link?

It's in the original post.

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EndlessNightmare reddthat.com EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
Joined: 2024-03-24
#86 · Quote Reply

Oklahoma

Yeah, authoritarian red state shithole. I don't even travel to/through such places when I can avoid it.

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WoodScientist lemmy.world WoodScientist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-06
#87 · Quote Reply

Don't even have to go that far. There are cheap and easily available perfectly safe substances that can be dumped on freshly poured concrete, or in empty forms, that keeps concrete from setting up correctly.

I mean, the data centers themselves are flammable. And you would do more damage if you waited til they were built...

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apftwb lemmy.world apftwb@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-22
#88 · Quote Reply

Talk too long in a public forum? Believe it or not, straight to jail.

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jballs sh.itjust.works jballs@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-13
#89 · (edited) Quote Reply

Were all those people cheering that the man was arrested?!

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ToTheGraveMyLove sh.itjust.works ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-29
#90 · (edited) Quote Reply

while I don't disagree with your statement, I'm certain that it was not the cops who made this call.

Who gives a shit? You don't give a Nazi a pass because they were "just following orders", do you?

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ToTheGraveMyLove sh.itjust.works ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-29
#91 · Quote Reply

I never indicated that that cops did anything right here, did i?

You dismissed their agency in the matter, thus giving them a pass.

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
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#92 · Quote Reply

Who gives a shit? You don't give a Nazi a pass because they were "just following orders", do you?

Who gave a pass?

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
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#93 · Quote Reply

You dismissed their agency in the matter, thus giving them a pass.

I agreed with the acab, but also asked for credit for those who ordered it

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ToTheGraveMyLove sh.itjust.works ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
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#94 · Quote Reply

Who gave a pass?

You did, by dismissing their agency in the matter. Again, who gives a fuck if they weren't the ones who made the call? They enforced the draconian measures, they are just as to blame.

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ToTheGraveMyLove sh.itjust.works ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-29
#95 · Quote Reply

I agreed with the acab, but also asked for credit for those who ordered it

You didn't ask for anything though, you made a statement. If your intent was to ask for something, then you should restate it as a question.

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febra lemmy.world febra@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#96 · Quote Reply

Used his free speech a little bit too long

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Rhonda Sandtits lemmy.sdf.org RhondaSandTits@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2024-05-03
#97 · Quote Reply

Meanwhile, we have two members of Mark Zuckerberg's legal team sitting in court wearing facial recognition capable glasses.

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-03-07
#98 · Quote Reply

You didn't ask for anything though, you made a statement. If your intent was to ask for something, then you should restate it as a question.

I see, you need everything spelled out.

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nibbler discuss.tchncs.de nibbler@discuss.tchncs.de
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#99 · Quote Reply

You did, by dismissing their agency in the matter. Again, who gives a fuck if they weren't the ones who made the call? They enforced the draconian measures, they are just as to blame.

I specifically agreed to them being bastards, obviously in this context. they are just as to blame. sure thing... I even confirmed that.

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rambling_lunatic sh.itjust.works rambling_lunatic@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-16
#100 · Quote Reply

Police officers always seem to align with the interests of the capitalist (Epstein) class. What is it about that job that attracts so many people with contempt for the working class?

The job description is literally to protect the powers that be and in exchange get your own authority to power-trip on too. It is fundamentally a reactionary job that should not exist, and neither should the system they protect.

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andallthat lemmy.world andallthat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#101 · Quote Reply

Used his free speech a little bit too long

He exceeded his quota of free tokens

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