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Susan Collins hands Trump the 50th vote against free and fair elections
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ShankShill sh.itjust.works ShankShill@sh.itjust.works
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#52 · Quote Reply

Perfect tombstone quote when this decrepit thing passes.

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Jyek sh.itjust.works Jyek@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
#53 · Quote Reply

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This is literally a discussion Bout ho elections aren't free and fair. We did not vote for this and the vast majority of Americans, in a true democratic election (not a representative democracy), would stop this from ever passing. But that isn't how we operate. Instead we vote for people who vote on our behalf and we vote for law makers who make laws on our behalf and who vote on those laws. And we somehow just have to trust the representatives to actually represent us. But there's no way in hell that is going to always work.

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stoly lemmy.world stoly@lemmy.world
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#54 · Quote Reply

Fuck this old crone. Every one of these old establishment dems like schumer, pelosi and collins need to fucking die already. If you're gonna sit in that seat and deny your constituents true representation until you die, then you might as well get it over with. Thanks for literally nothing, you useless, feckless coward.

Pelosi retired

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RampantParanoia2365 lemmy.world RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-02
#55 · Quote Reply

Writing "the 50th vote" instead of "another vote" or even "a 50th vote" implies that specific vote is more important, like reaching a threshold. At least that's how I see it.

Correct.

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crystalmerchant lemmy.world crystalmerchant@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#56 · Quote Reply

God I hate this broad

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samus12345 sh.itjust.works samus12345@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#57 · Quote Reply

Even Mitch McConnell didn't vote for this thing.

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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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#58 · Quote Reply

What makes you think the Dems will filibuster? So far Schumer has capitulated every single time.

Not even Schumer is stupid enough to cave to "I lose my job forever."

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JcbAzPx lemmy.world JcbAzPx@lemmy.world
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#59 · Quote Reply

How is it clickbait? It literally says the thing in the title

The implication is that it's guaranteed to pass with her vote. That is the clickbait.

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mrgoosmoos lemmy.ca mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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#60 · Quote Reply

jfc she can fuck off and die already

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RestrictedAccount lemmy.world RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#61 · Quote Reply

What does someone in Maine get out of this? Maybe Collins is getting shit for it but the average person is getting fucked.

I don’t know, but Asheville NC got the Blue Ridge Parkway because their representative was the last vote needed for Social Security.

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DCErik lemmy.zip DCErik@lemmy.zip
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#62 · Quote Reply

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False. Republicants voted for this.

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leadore lemmy.world leadore@lemmy.world
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#63 · Quote Reply

She knows it gives her the best chance of being re-elected.

Do these people think they're going live forever? Something twists the minds of everyone who gains power. They become absolutely incapable of giving it up voluntarily.

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leadore lemmy.world leadore@lemmy.world
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#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

Fuck this old crone. Every one of these old establishment dems like schumer, pelosi and collins need to fucking die already. If you're gonna sit in that seat and deny your constituents true representation until you die, then you might as well get it over with. Thanks for literally nothing, you useless, feckless coward.

She's a Repedolican, but I can see why you're confused because everyone likes to pretend she's somehow less extreme than the other ones. She's not, just puts on a little show of "being concerned" about things, but always votes right along with the rest of them.

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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#65 · Quote Reply

Leadership of our parties are all old vultures like this hag, who has sat in office for THIRTY YEARS

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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#66 · Quote Reply

This is why no Republican should be allowed into office, ever. Even the "moderate" ones will betray America.

Both of our parties are unconstitutional private organizations, and both have been bought long before we were born

Democrats won't save you

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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#67 · Quote Reply

This is literally a discussion Bout ho elections aren't free and fair. We did not vote for this and the vast majority of Americans, in a true democratic election (not a representative democracy), would stop this from ever passing. But that isn't how we operate. Instead we vote for people who vote on our behalf and we vote for law makers who make laws on our behalf and who vote on those laws. An...

"Always going to work" = never works

Voter support for higher minimum wage is around 70%. Support for universal healthcare and abortion is over 60%. Support for term limits is over 70%. And so on.

Our government is pay-for-play, and the voters can't pay... but Musk and Amazon and the rest have some discretionary income to share with the politicians.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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#68 · Quote Reply

I’m getting pretty old and we have no representation. These are all treasonous traitors who represent corporations, oligarchs and Israel. We will not be able to vote our way out of this.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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#69 · Quote Reply

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I disagree I think we all need to vocalize our dissent as loudly as possible.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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#70 · Quote Reply

Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator.

But better still is anyone who believed the "You need 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate" line we've been swallowing since Clinton.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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#71 · Quote Reply

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Get armed. Rice and beans, and generally about 2 weeks of food and water.

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Formfiller lemmy.world Formfiller@lemmy.world
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#72 · Quote Reply

I read save act will block a lot more republican women from voting than anyone else because married democrat women are far more likely to own a passport

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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#73 · Quote Reply

What does someone in Maine get out of this? Maybe Collins is getting shit for it but the average person is getting fucked.

What does someone in Maine get out of this?

Well, if you're a fascist...

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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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#74 · Quote Reply

Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck...

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GraniteM lemmy.world GraniteM@lemmy.world
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#75 · Quote Reply

"I know who this is, but I don't know who that is. People I know must be better."

This was why I was fucking bummed when Biden got into the Democratic primary in '19. Name recognition >>> Younger, better options.

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Gammelfisch lemmy.world Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
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#76 · Quote Reply

Collins is a sack of shit and must be another Russian asset.

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Saprophyte lemmy.world Saprophyte@lemmy.world
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#77 · Quote Reply

This is why no Republican should be allowed into office, ever. Even the "moderate" ones will betray America.

From the article.

According to a recent scorecard, Collins has voted with Trump 96% of the time — the same rate as Mitch McConnell and two points above conservative Rand Paul.

She's as moderate as Mitch McConnell

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IzzyScissor lemmy.world IzzyScissor@lemmy.world
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#78 · Quote Reply

She knows it gives her the best chance of being re-elected. Do these people think they're going live forever? Something twists the minds of everyone who gains power. They become absolutely incapable of giving it up voluntarily.

Truly - What do they care about what happens after they're dead? .. They'll be dead.

They have no empathy towards anyone who will suffer the consequences because they won't have to be the ones to deal with the fallout. "Fuck you, I got mine" is their entire strategy.

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hraegsvelmir ani.social hraegsvelmir@ani.social
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#79 · Quote Reply

How many times do this rogue Democrats have to buck the party line to work with the fascists before we actually get some party discipline? Yes, I get the whole "big tent party" thing, but there should be a point (which has long since and repeatedly been passed) where the party closes ranks and starts either censuring these members in a meaningful way, like a monetary fine or loss of some campaign funds or something, and escalate right up to expelling them from the party and making them campaign openly as the republicans they really are.

I'm not saying they should be policing every single action of them, but when you have assholes like Joe Manchon or Susan Collins, who tank key pieces of legislation that represent major planks of the party or directly work against the interests of the constituents, it shouldn't be up to grass roots movements to primary these bastards, much to frequently do so against the DNC continuing to back them. They should already be gone based on their part misdeeds, and the party should be proactive in this.

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Semester3383 lemmy.world Semester3383@lemmy.world
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#80 · Quote Reply

How many times do this rogue Democrats have to buck the party line to work with the fascists before we actually get some party discipline? Yes, I get the whole "big tent party" thing, but there should be a point (which has long since and repeatedly been passed) where the party closes ranks and starts either censuring these members in a meaningful way, like a monetary fine or loss of some campai...

Wut.

Susan Collins IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. She is a REPUBLICAN. I don't mean that she's a DINO, she's literally a Republican.

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「黃家駒 Wong Ka Kui」(old account, migrated to Piefed) sh.itjust.works DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-23
#81 · Quote Reply

Where filibuster?

Anyways, this is only 20 minutes into the 2nd episode of the Season 2026 of House of Cards and the plot is already getting wilder and wilder. Can't wait till what the writers come up with in Season 2028 Episode 11...

The Lafayette Square Coup?

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Raiderkev lemmy.world Raiderkev@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#82 · Quote Reply

I mean, when has she actually done something good? Even in the article they say she votes with Trump 98% of the time (more than Rand Paul).

Literally never. For some reason she has a reputation as being the left leaning Nazi tho

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hraegsvelmir ani.social hraegsvelmir@ani.social
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#83 · Quote Reply

Wut. Susan Collins IS NOT A DEMOCRAT. She is a REPUBLICAN. I don't mean that she's a DINO, she's literally a Republican.

You know what? That's all on me. For some dumb reason, I had it in my head that she was a Democrat. I'll just go put away my pitchfork now.

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EndlessNightmare reddthat.com EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com
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#84 · (edited) Quote Reply

I read save act will block a lot more republican women from voting than anyone else because married democrat women are far more likely to own a passport

Leopards start circling, ready for a feast

I also saw a stat that democratic women are less likely to be married in the first place.

Citation: https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-growing-link-between-marriage-fertility-and-partisanship

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TronBronson lemmy.world TronBronson@lemmy.world
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#85 · Quote Reply

I wish it was fucking rare, but they've been doing this shit at least 2 or 3 times a year for my entire lifetime.

I know it was a joke, they always vote as a block because they have no independent thoughts.

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TronBronson lemmy.world TronBronson@lemmy.world
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#86 · Quote Reply

Most of the party wouldn't risk primarying her in this environment. The NRSC knows no other Republican has a shot of winning the general, and they've definitely made that clear to the idiot in chief, who probably now understands there's a reasonable chance that the Senate flips. I don't think there's any political calculation here; she's being a dick because that's what she is.

So last November the republicans ran a 'fair voting' law in Maine and it got voted down by 65% of the state. Susan collins seat is at risk indeed. I see a lot of Graham Planter signs in the place of the old Trump signs. I think they are shitting a brick about midterms and this law is a political calculation to do what ever they need to do to skew the election in her favor. At this point I think she might just do it for the head lines. She's always contemplating until last minute when she always votes with her voting block.

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TronBronson lemmy.world TronBronson@lemmy.world
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#87 · Quote Reply

She's certainly losing that seat, to be fair.

nothings certain. Im hoping mills and collins flop and the young populist dude sweeps it. I would not be surprised at all to see Susan win a fair election or a rigged election. I would be pleased if she didn't.

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HermitBee feddit.uk HermitBee@feddit.uk
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#88 · Quote Reply

Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator. But better still is anyone who believed the "You need 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate" line we've been swallowing since Clinton.

Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator.

I'm not American so I'm probably missing something, but isn't this a Republican who votes almost exclusively along party lines? So, a case of people getting exactly what they voted for?

I'm not saying she's not a despicable arsehole, but it doesn't seem like she hides it.

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FatCrab slrpnk.net FatCrab@slrpnk.net
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#89 · Quote Reply

Both of our parties are unconstitutional private organizations, and both have been bought long before we were born Democrats won't save you

Meanwhile, Republicans are actively trying to kill you. Both sidesism only makes sense when both are equivalent threats, which is clearly not the fucking case.

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Triasha lemmy.world Triasha@lemmy.world
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#90 · Quote Reply

Where filibuster? Anyways, this is only 20 minutes into the 2nd episode of the Season 2026 of House of Cards and the plot is already getting wilder and wilder. Can't wait till what the writers come up with in Season 2028 Episode 11... The Lafayette Square Coup?

"if it came to a vote"
Filibuster still exists

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0xDREADBEEF lemmy.dbzer0.com dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#91 · Quote Reply

And?

You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to

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dhork lemmy.world dhork@lemmy.world
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#92 · (edited) Quote Reply

Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator. I'm not American so I'm probably missing something, but isn't this a Republican who votes almost exclusively along party lines? So, a case of people getting exactly what they voted for? I'm not saying she's not a despicable arsehole, but it doesn't seem like she hides it.

Partisanship is such a driving force in our politics that even someone who only bucks their party 4% of the time is considered "bipartisan". I've seen reports in the media calling a vote "bipartisan" if it only gets two or three votes from the other side.

And yes, it depends on that person's reputation. Since Collins is seen as a moderate, all it takes is her support on a bill to call it "bipartisan". OTOH, Senator Rand Paul frequently votes against the Republican party line, but only because he is a batshit crazy libertarian. He can vote against a Republican bill, and nobody calls that "bipartisan", I guess because both sides think he's nuts.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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#93 · Quote Reply

Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator. I'm not American so I'm probably missing something, but isn't this a Republican who votes almost exclusively along party lines? So, a case of people getting exactly what they voted for? I'm not saying she's not a despicable arsehole, but it doesn't seem like she hides it.

Collins regularly advertises herself as a moderate and makes a big show of complaining about the rest of the party to the media.

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HermitBee feddit.uk HermitBee@feddit.uk
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#94 · Quote Reply

Partisanship is such a driving force in our politics that even someone who only bucks their party 4% of the time is considered "bipartisan". I've seen reports in the media calling a vote "bipartisan" if it only gets two or three votes from the other side. And yes, it depends on that person's reputation. Since Collins is seen as a moderate, all it takes is her support on a bill to call it "bipar...

So the news here is "Rebellious Republican didn't rebel against Republican bill"?

Except "rebellious" means "still toes the line 96% of the time" and "Republican bill" means "whatever fucked up turd of an idea Trumps handlers have evacuated through that festering mouth-hole in his face"?

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dhork lemmy.world dhork@lemmy.world
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#95 · Quote Reply

So the news here is "Rebellious Republican didn't rebel against Republican bill"? Except "rebellious" means "still toes the line 96% of the time" and "Republican bill" means "whatever fucked up turd of an idea Trumps handlers have evacuated through that festering mouth-hole in his face"?

Yes, you understand that correctly. All I can say is that it wasn't always this way.

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chiliedogg lemmy.world chiliedogg@lemmy.world
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#96 · Quote Reply

Maine lugging around a record number of "Fell For It Again" awards with that POS senator. I'm not American so I'm probably missing something, but isn't this a Republican who votes almost exclusively along party lines? So, a case of people getting exactly what they voted for? I'm not saying she's not a despicable arsehole, but it doesn't seem like she hides it.

She's one of a few the Republicans have had strategically vote against the party when her vote wasn't needed to pass a bill. Basically her, Murkowski, and for a while McCain, until he really bucked the party with the ACA vote and became a pariah until his death.

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HermitBee feddit.uk HermitBee@feddit.uk
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#97 · Quote Reply

Yes, you understand that correctly. All I can say is that it wasn't always this way.

I'm well aware - I have a pretty comprehensive understanding of American political history, albeit entirely gleaned from Day of the Tentacle, The Wire, and that Obama "HOPE" poster.

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HermitBee feddit.uk HermitBee@feddit.uk
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#98 · Quote Reply

She's one of a few the Republicans have had strategically vote against the party when her vote wasn't needed to pass a bill. Basically her, Murkowski, and for a while McCain, until he really bucked the party with the ACA vote and became a pariah until his death.

The strategy being "pretend you're not an evil fuckface to get more votes", presumably?

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jj4211 lemmy.world jj4211@lemmy.world
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#99 · Quote Reply

The strategy being "pretend you're not an evil fuckface to get more votes", presumably?

Yes, in competitive states, they when by playing the reasonable centrist that swears they are willing to stand up to their party...

Never actually doing so when it could actually matter.

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pyre lemmy.world pyre@lemmy.world
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#100 · Quote Reply

add to the list of collaborators. the regime will fall, and some of these dinosaurs will be still living. there must be a reckoning.

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Cethin lemmy.zip Cethin@lemmy.zip
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#101 · Quote Reply

What makes you think the Dems will filibuster? So far Schumer has capitulated every single time.

That's not how the filibuster works. It only takes one person to do it. It's take 60 to vote against it to stop it from being done by that one person. Even Schumer isn't dumb enough to call the dems to vote against them doing their own thing.

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