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wanderinglurk lemmy.world wanderinglurk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-27
#52 · Quote Reply

We need to, but can we?

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MajorMajormajormajor lemmy.ca MajorMajormajormajor@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#53 · Quote Reply

Jellyfin and Immich jave stayed as mainstays after like 2 dozen projects I've tried on. That and a Samba share.

How was setting up immich? Looking to expand and that seems interesting.

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Encrypt-Keeper lemmy.world EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#54 · Quote Reply

I had purchased first 12TB drive for 4 bay NAS last summer. These are fuckton expensive so couldnt get all 4. I finally saved up and bought 2nd 12TB drive to get to RAID 1 for redundancy. Not even month passed, WD reports no more drives. Shop where I got one reports out of stock. FUCK! Fuck AI and fuck big tech. I got my 12tb cloud and will give you 0 money in near future.

I had two 20TB drives in my cart three months ago for $350 each. Today they’re $420

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yo_scottie_oh lemmy.ml yo_scottie_oh@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-11-12
#55 · Quote Reply

It’s definitely the latter. These are writing contracts to buy hardware that has yet to be produced for data centres that haven’t been built. All so they can satisfy a demand that doesn’t yet exist for a product no one is going to be willing to pay for. It will crash. This whole grift is too expensive to keep going. The naysayers keep forgetting that hardware gets old, it wears out and fails, a...

It just can’t. This candle is burning fast at both ends.

I hope you're right b/c right now feels like the classic "market can stay irrational longer than we can stay liquid" type situation.

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modus lemmy.world modus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#56 · Quote Reply

Jellyfin and Immich jave stayed as mainstays after like 2 dozen projects I've tried on. That and a Samba share.

Beginner here. What do you mean by a Samba share? Do you mean a shared network folder? Or something more elaborate?

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NewNewAugustEast lemmy.zip NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-19
#57 · Quote Reply

I had purchased first 12TB drive for 4 bay NAS last summer. These are fuckton expensive so couldnt get all 4. I finally saved up and bought 2nd 12TB drive to get to RAID 1 for redundancy. Not even month passed, WD reports no more drives. Shop where I got one reports out of stock. FUCK! Fuck AI and fuck big tech. I got my 12tb cloud and will give you 0 money in near future.

Realistically it's worse than that right? Where is your second and third 12tb drive for back ups? Raid is a nice to have but meaningless when it comes to back ups.

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NewNewAugustEast lemmy.zip NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-19
#58 · Quote Reply

Beginner here. What do you mean by a Samba share? Do you mean a shared network folder? Or something more elaborate?

Yes they mean a SMB share. A type of network share that works (mostly) with Linux and windows.

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Decronym Bot Decronym@lemmy.decronym.xyz
Joined: 2026-01-05
#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread:

Fewer Letters More Letters
NAS Network-Attached Storage
RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage
SMB Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native
SSD Solid State Drive mass storage
ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity

5 acronyms in this thread; the most compressed thread commented on today has 12 acronyms.

[Thread #100 for this comm, first seen 17th Feb 2026, 19:51]
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ikidd lemmy.world ikidd@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-23
#60 · (edited) Quote Reply

How old are we talking?

I run on dual Xeon R410s with 128Gb of RAM (2013?). Got them for free, on Kijiji. Runs Proxmox on both and a pile of VMs. Dual GB nics, 6 SAS bays, HBA in IT mode for ZFS. Has iLo for OOB management, or whatever the Dell equivalent is.

I mean, it's not fast, but each server has 24 cores and I can chunk PDF files fairly quickly for RAG on 10 cores and have plenty for mail server, Nextcloud, K8S running some side hustle apps, etc, etc. Kind of a noisy prick when it winds up though.

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heatermcteets lemmy.world heatermcteets@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

I had purchased first 12TB drive for 4 bay NAS last summer. These are fuckton expensive so couldnt get all 4. I finally saved up and bought 2nd 12TB drive to get to RAID 1 for redundancy. Not even month passed, WD reports no more drives. Shop where I got one reports out of stock. FUCK! Fuck AI and fuck big tech. I got my 12tb cloud and will give you 0 money in near future.

Yeah. I have a RAIDz2 on super old version of FreeNAS. 8x4TB.

I’ve been needing to upgrade for about a year now. I’ve been waiting for the prices to go lower…. News about WD forced my hand for 8x18TB. Not $$ I was looking to spend, but fomo that my upgrade could now be much further away pushed me to just do it. :(

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majari42 lemmy.world majari42@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-04
#62 · Quote Reply

How was setting up immich? Looking to expand and that seems interesting.

Give it a go, I just finished the docker with tailscale setup. Using parts of this guide from Alex from tailscale https://youtu.be/guHoZ68N3XM (for the ones saying don't post yt links, I've not seen an add in the past 6 years or so, just use revanced)
2 hickups I had to overcome: a dns issue and different gpu passthrough then jellyfin uses). Reason was unpriviliged lxc in proxmox in both cases. But I prefer an lxc in this case.
Just lost 2hrs looking back at old photos, it works great! Rdy for introducing it to my non tech wife!

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melroy kbin.melroy.org melroy@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2023-06-20
#63 · Quote Reply

Is that one machine?

Yes just one homelab server.

Actually even its on 1 Linux VM (but that doesn't mean you should also use a single VM). Anyways tldr; Yes.

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melroy kbin.melroy.org melroy@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2023-06-20
#64 · Quote Reply

Why GitLab and Gitea?

I run gitea on a different kind of internet.......

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melroy kbin.melroy.org melroy@kbin.melroy.org
Joined: 2023-06-20
#65 · Quote Reply

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Duh

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#66 · Quote Reply

Realistically it's worse than that right? Where is your second and third 12tb drive for back ups? Raid is a nice to have but meaningless when it comes to back ups.

Most of my storage is media - movies and series. Immich, Nextcloud and personal files take little less than 300GB. I do backups weekly to NAS storage, monthly to storage SSD in my PC and to an external HDD. I am looking into way to somehow be able to backup to a rpi3 that I have installed at my father's place. This might cover my 3-2-1 needs, just need to figure out that 1.

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#67 · Quote Reply

You can still go with unraid and buy more, smaller drives. Buy used SAS drives and an HBA. I recently bought a refurbished Dell optiplex with 32 gigs of ram and some i5 processor off eBay for 100€. SAS drives are really loud and consume more energy than consumer HDDs, but they last very long and are way cheaper.

Cant. My nas is weak and cant run unraid. Raid5 and Raid6 is what I can achieve.

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osanna thebrainbin.org osanna@thebrainbin.org
Joined: 2026-02-01
#68 · Quote Reply

Yes they mean a SMB share. A type of network share that works (mostly) with Linux and windows.

do NOT open SMB to the internet. You will get crypto'd in minutes. Just a warning for any newbs coming here.

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osanna thebrainbin.org osanna@thebrainbin.org
Joined: 2026-02-01
#69 · Quote Reply

Yep, Western Digital said they were sold out of drives for all of 2026. Since 2026 is just starting, they haven't actually produced those drives or gotten actual money for them. Hopefully the bubble pops soon, though I hate that Americans' 401Ks and IRAs will take the brunt of the "losses" when it does.

on the plus side, when the AI bubble pops, hardware will be soooooo cheap

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Vegafjord oakframer lemmy.ml libre_warrior@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-02-28
#70 · Quote Reply

Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I've seen in this thread: Fewer Letters More Letters NAS Network-Attached Storage RAID Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage SMB Server Message Block protocol for file and printer sharing; Windows-native SSD Solid State Drive mass storage ZFS Solaris/Linux filesystem focu...

Could you also have a row for english?

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VonReposti feddit.dk VonReposti@feddit.dk
Joined: 2023-06-12
#71 · Quote Reply

Could you also have a row for english?
  • NAS: A weird spinny thing where you store your data. Both over the network.
  • RAID: Multiple weird spinny things working together to recover the lost data if one of the weird spinny things dies.
  • SSD: A weird spinny thing that doesn't spin. Currently prohibitively expensive, so can be ignored.
  • SMB: A language that computers use to share files from the weird spinny things or printers with each other.
  • ZFS: A method that your computer uses to keep track of how and where your files are on the weird spinny things.
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Cargon lemmy.ml Cargon@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-06-06
#72 · Quote Reply

I've got 200TB of HDDs all with 80,000+ hours on them :(

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Appoxo lemmy.dbzer0.com Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

Need should*

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Appoxo lemmy.dbzer0.com Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#74 · Quote Reply

I've got 200TB of HDDs all with 80,000+ hours on them :(

Pray they don't break in the next 4 years.
I'll join you

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Appoxo lemmy.dbzer0.com Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-07-01
#75 · Quote Reply

How was setting up immich? Looking to expand and that seems interesting.

Pretty easy.

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Chaotic Entropy feddit.uk ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-06
#76 · Quote Reply

NAS: A weird spinny thing where you store your data. Both over the network. RAID: Multiple weird spinny things working together to recover the lost data if one of the weird spinny things dies. SSD: A weird spinny thing that doesn't spin. Currently prohibitively expensive, so can be ignored. SMB: A language that computers use to share files from the weird spinny things or printers with each othe...

Are they more spinny than they are weird? Or weirder than they are spinny?

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Chaotic Entropy feddit.uk ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-06
#77 · Quote Reply

Time to repurpose all of my random mixed capacity HDDs in a bag somewhere, I guess.

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(void*)0x0 feddit.nu Void@feddit.nu
Joined: 2026-01-24
#78 · Quote Reply

I had two 20TB drives in my cart three months ago for $350 each. Today they’re $420

Drives have always been more expensive where I live due to taxes and extra "pirate taxes" they stick on anything you can store data on. But now they are even worse, so sad. $589 for 16TB Toshiba N300 was the cheapest "new" ones I could find at a glance.

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Encrypt-Keeper lemmy.world EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#79 · Quote Reply

Drives have always been more expensive where I live due to taxes and extra "pirate taxes" they stick on anything you can store data on. But now they are even worse, so sad. $589 for 16TB Toshiba N300 was the cheapest "new" ones I could find at a glance.

I needed up buying these $420 20TB Ironwolf Pro drives from Microcenter, so see if you can order online from there.

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(void*)0x0 feddit.nu Void@feddit.nu
Joined: 2026-01-24
#80 · Quote Reply

I needed up buying these $420 20TB Ironwolf Pro drives from Microcenter, so see if you can order online from there.

Sadly the import taxes from the states would almost double it. I think I can find somewhat cheaper drives in Germany if I looked hard though.

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Encrypt-Keeper lemmy.world EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#81 · Quote Reply

Sadly the import taxes from the states would almost double it. I think I can find somewhat cheaper drives in Germany if I looked hard though.

Oh you’re outside the U.S. yeah that’s a pickle. Microcenter is a brick and mortar store here so I’d definitely recommend checking for your local equivalent.

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VonReposti feddit.dk VonReposti@feddit.dk
Joined: 2023-06-12
#82 · Quote Reply

Are they more spinny than they are weird? Or weirder than they are spinny?

The SSDs are definitely weirder than they are spinny but otherwise it depends. A 7200RPM weird spinny thing is for example more spinny than a 5400RPM but if you take 3 of the 5400RPM in a RAID, then the spinnines is aggregated, making it more spinny than a 7200RPM. But in doing so, you are multiplying the weirdiness, making it exponentially more weird than a single 7200RPM weird spinny thing. This has to do with how the weirdiness particles flow between the spinny things to make sure that you'll always be able to recover the weirdiness of one of the spinny things from the other spinny things in case of an untimely demise.

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Chaotic Entropy feddit.uk ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-06
#83 · Quote Reply

The SSDs are definitely weirder than they are spinny but otherwise it depends. A 7200RPM weird spinny thing is for example more spinny than a 5400RPM but if you take 3 of the 5400RPM in a RAID, then the spinnines is aggregated, making it more spinny than a 7200RPM. But in doing so, you are multiplying the weirdiness, making it exponentially more weird than a single 7200RPM weird spinny thing. T...

This is definitely food for thought. Junk food, but technically food.

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MonkeMischief lemmy.today MonkeMischief@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-24
#84 · (edited) Quote Reply

Okay, to all of you: I get it, more is better, same for me. But it's still worth starting if you can only get your hands on two used drives to run in raid 1.

Exactly. I've got a 4TB mirror setup for my pictures I reclaimed from Google Photos, and music, and other important stuff. It also backs up to iDrive which is really affordable. (Hopefully stays that way...)

What sucks is I scored a deal on a pair of WD Red 4TBs to add, but one was defective (secondhand, and WDs RMA procedure is STRICT.) , so now I'm stuck with a half expansion I don't know what to do with and it's kinda not responsible for me to spend >100 bucks completing the mirror right now.

My media collection isn't on a mirror or backed up or anything because it's naturally way larger than everything else, but I think for the stuff that truly matters, this will see us through.

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