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'We Thought It Would Be Fun': Nintendo Has a Whole FAQ on Why It's Selling Pokémon FireRed and LeafGreen Separately for $20 Each - IGN
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mesa piefed.social mesamunefire@piefed.social
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#52 · (edited) Quote Reply

Because they are? How many YouTubers are playing The Hot New Thing from Nintendo right now, because they bought it? They are the ones perpetuating this shit. It's all a feedback loop meant to suck as much money out of the public as they can. I can go and find at least 6 YouTubers that I subscribe to that almost always play the newest of the new thing so it's featured on their channel. RTGame, M...

Game Grumps got in trouble from what I remember using emulators on old games haha.

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Zedstrian lemmy.dbzer0.com Zedstrian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#53 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Unlike physical cartridges, a digital, emulated copy of FireRed has no resale or collector's value. The lack of physical copies for virtual console games also means each copy sold costs Nintendo nothing beyond the initial emulator development cost, which would be minuscule on a per-game basis.

Considering those factors, and the Switch having a higher install base than prior systems (over ten times Wii U unit sales), maintaining the Wii U and 3DS price points is the most reasonable means for Nintendo to monetize their back catalogue in a way that makes piracy less enticing for many people: $3 per GB, $4 per GBC, $5 per NES, $7-8 per GBA, $8 per SNES, $10 per N64/DS, and $20 per Wii.

Given that each emulated console only requires that a Switch emulator be developed for it once (something Nintendo has already done for NSO) to support hundreds of paid titles, there's no need to increase prices when the games will sell several times more than they had any chance to on the Wii U.

Given how many games NSO includes, they could continue offering them that way for people who prefer renting their library. Consumers want meaningful options; pricing a GBA game at $20 is not that.

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Guitar lemmy.world Guitar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#54 · Quote Reply

Do you work for the billion dollar company? Weird fucking take you have portraying them as a victim
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GreyEyedGhost piefed.ca GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
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#55 · Quote Reply

Well if you're replying me just to tell me you were never going to buy it, you're proving my point.

I feel like people who were never gonna buy it no matter what the price tag was just want something to be mad at.

So if no one responds, it's because they have no rebuttal, but if they do, they're proving your point. Quite the big brain theory there. My point was that it had nothing to do with the price tag, except that the value proposition isn't there when they can just stop giving you access whenever it becomes inconvenient for them. Moreover, while I have regrets about buying stuff on the Wii store, I'm not angry at them. So it just sounds like you're saying I'm not much of a customer for a restaurant that I don't go to anymore just because I got food poisoning a few times. Must be me and not them. And you sound like you're defending a shitty company because people say their product isn't worth buying.

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myfavouritename lemmy.world myfavouritename@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#56 · Quote Reply

anyways play cassette beasts instead

Such a good game! It did not have to have all the extra features it does to be worth the purchase, but they loaded this game with fun!

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missingno fedia.io missingno@fedia.io
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#57 · Quote Reply

I feel like people who were never gonna buy it no matter what the price tag was just want something to be mad at. So if no one responds, it's because they have no rebuttal, but if they do, they're proving your point. Quite the big brain theory there. My point was that it had nothing to do with the price tag, except that the value proposition isn't there when they can just stop giving you access...

If you respond to tell me that you were never gonna buy it, you prove my point.

It's just kind of tiring how every post about anything Nintendo does ever has the exactly same whining every time, especially when you're not actually whining about FRLG here at all, you're just whining to whine. You just want something to be mad at.

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Zahille7 lemmy.world Zahille7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#58 · Quote Reply

Game Grumps got in trouble from what I remember using emulators on old games haha.

I actually forgot that Game Grumps only play the newest of the new when it's from a particular series or something.

Why did they get in trouble? Was it with Nintendo or the fans? I kinda remember some "controversy" over them using emulators instead of original hardware, but imo that's bullshit. Sometimes old hardware isn't better, and all kinds of things can go wrong with it.

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mesa piefed.social mesamunefire@piefed.social
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#59 · Quote Reply

I actually forgot that Game Grumps only play the newest of the new when it's from a particular series or something. Why did they get in trouble? Was it with Nintendo or the fans? I kinda remember some "controversy" over them using emulators instead of original hardware, but imo that's bullshit. Sometimes old hardware isn't better, and all kinds of things can go wrong with it.

I wish I remembered...Im spacing right now and search isnt coming up with anything. I just remember there was a small stink because some game or another was too expensive? And they just emulated it but showed one of the screens? Its been many years.

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GreyEyedGhost piefed.ca GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca
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#60 · Quote Reply

If you respond to tell me that you were never gonna buy it, you prove my point. It's just kind of tiring how every post about anything Nintendo does ever has the exactly same whining every time, especially when you're not actually whining about FRLG here at all, you're just whining to whine. You just want something to be mad at.

Well, you can keep going to the restaurant with hair in the food. It's not a problem with their practices, my standards are just unreasonably high. Whatever you have to tell yourself to justify why you keep eating food with hair in it.

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Zahille7 lemmy.world Zahille7@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#61 · Quote Reply

I wish I remembered...Im spacing right now and search isnt coming up with anything. I just remember there was a small stink because some game or another was too expensive? And they just emulated it but showed one of the screens? Its been many years.

Yeah, seems about right for some of the purists out there. There's a whole fucking subreddit dedicated to talking shit about them. It's honestly sad.

Like it's one thing to have a semi-parasocial relationship and call it "hanging out with your friends" but it's another entirely to dedicate time out of your life to get upset and angry over a goddamn YouTube channel.

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Nurse_Robot lemmy.world Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-12
#62 · Quote Reply

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Thinking that pirating a $20 game from Nintendo is fucking someone over is a wild take. Stop treating international giga corporations like people

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Christian lemmy.ml christian@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2020-06-29
#63 · Quote Reply

Monster sanctuary was a lot of fun too

Monster Sanctuary had much worse graphics and the story was not engaging at all but somehow I still enjoyed it a lot more than Cassette Beasts.

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Guitar lemmy.world Guitar@lemmy.world
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#64 · Quote Reply

Thinking that pirating a $20 game from Nintendo is fucking someone over is a wild take. Stop treating international giga corporations like people
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fastfomo7 lemmy.dbzer0.com fastfomo7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#65 · Quote Reply

I haven't bought anything from Nintendo since the 3DS. They just can't hold my interest anymore, and I really hate what they've done to Pokémon. They know it, but they just don't care because people will keep buying it regardless.

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Kilgore Trout feddit.it kilgore_trout@feddit.it
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#66 · Quote Reply

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You were right in your first comment, but this is plainly false. Not pirating, mind, but making copies of what you already own is legal, at least in US and most of Europe.

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Guitar lemmy.world Guitar@lemmy.world
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#67 · Quote Reply

You were right in your first comment, but this is plainly false. Not pirating, mind, but making copies of what you already own is legal, at least in US and most of Europe.
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SabinStargem lemmy.today SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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#68 · Quote Reply

$5 for a whole generation of games would be fair...and this certainly isn't. Wario is the true representative of Nintendo.

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SabinStargem lemmy.today SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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#69 · Quote Reply

Monster sanctuary was a lot of fun too

I liked Nexomon Extinction, and am looking forward to Nexomon 3D.

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MilitantAtheist lemmy.world MilitantAtheist@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#70 · Quote Reply

"Cause we love money, lol, fuck you poors." - Nintendo

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ms.lane lemmy.world ms_lane@lemmy.world
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#71 · Quote Reply

*$20 each, for each language.

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schnurrito discuss.tchncs.de schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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#72 · Quote Reply

*$20 each, for each language.

TBF these are games that were originally released with separate cartridges for each language, so this isn't an especially surprising thing.

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schnurrito discuss.tchncs.de schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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#73 · Quote Reply

Never in my life have I been as excited about a video game release as I was in 2004 for Pokémon FRLG.

Now I haven't touched them in a long time and have no idea why anyone might be excited about games we already know everything about. But then again there are children out there who are the same age as I was in 2004 and they might never have played FRLG on the GBA.

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Tolc lemmy.zip clot27@lemmy.zip
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#74 · Quote Reply

Nintendo suckss

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Ryanmiller70 lemmy.zip Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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#75 · Quote Reply

You know it's bad when Konami can release GBA roms for a better deal at the exact same price (talking about the Castlevania Advanced Collection).

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ElectricMachman lemmy.sdf.org LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org
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#76 · Quote Reply

TBF these are games that were originally released with separate cartridges for each language, so this isn't an especially surprising thing.

Plenty of GBA games had multiple languages on one cartridge. No excuse.

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Ryanmiller70 lemmy.zip Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip
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#77 · Quote Reply

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The devs already got paid. The money spent buying this game just goes to the higher ups who spent 0 time actually working on the game.

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Kilgore Trout feddit.it kilgore_trout@feddit.it
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#78 · Quote Reply

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I do whatever I want regardless. That you go out of your way to defend the multi-billion company from copyright theft is pointless, when nowadays agents like Meta have been reported stealing millions of copyrighted materials and nothing happened.

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ElectricMachman lemmy.sdf.org LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org
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#79 · Quote Reply

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The work was already done, and the people who worked on it have already been paid. Nobody's getting royalties here.

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CosmoNova lemmy.world CosmoNova@lemmy.world
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#80 · Quote Reply

TBF these are games that were originally released with separate cartridges for each language, so this isn't an especially surprising thing.

I remember plenty of GBA titles with language options. I used to buy them on flea markets abroad and didn‘t know a lick of english. I find it absurd that this one wouldn‘t have that option.

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iamthetot piefed.ca iamthetot@piefed.ca
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#81 · Quote Reply

Plenty of GBA games had multiple languages on one cartridge. No excuse.

Especially in Europe.

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Goodlucksil lemmy.dbzer0.com Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#82 · Quote Reply

Even if you really want to play on Switch there are CFW options that enable GBA emulation.

Yeah but those require either an specific type of Switch or a modchip (which does cost a little AND requires soldering)

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MyNameIsAtticus lemmy.world MyNameIsAtticus@lemmy.world
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#83 · Quote Reply

I would have loved like a Mario all Stars of retro Pokemon games. They don’t even have to get fancy with it. Give me like Gen 1-5 and we’re good. Or hell, even just Gen 1-3 and I’d be happy.

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markovs_gun lemmy.world markovs_gun@lemmy.world
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#84 · Quote Reply

Because their real answer of "Because you dumb fucks will buy it anyway" wasn't nice enough for the press lol. Seriously as long as you dumb asses keep buying old ass games from Nintendo for way too much money they will keep letting you do it.

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schnurrito discuss.tchncs.de schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
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#85 · Quote Reply

Plenty of GBA games had multiple languages on one cartridge. No excuse.

Yes, but not mainline Pokémon games.

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bless lemmy.ml bless@lemmy.ml
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#86 · Quote Reply

anyways play cassette beasts instead

Sorry, Shin Megami Tensei has already won me over. Can't beat fighting and having gods fighting for you in my book

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OldQWERTYbastard lemmy.world OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world
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#87 · Quote Reply

I would have loved like a Mario all Stars of retro Pokemon games. They don’t even have to get fancy with it. Give me like Gen 1-5 and we’re good. Or hell, even just Gen 1-3 and I’d be happy.

The ROM hack Pokemon Unbound is what you're looking for.

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OldQWERTYbastard lemmy.world OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world
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#88 · Quote Reply

Never in my life have I been as excited about a video game release as I was in 2004 for Pokémon FRLG. Now I haven't touched them in a long time and have no idea why anyone might be excited about games we already know everything about. But then again there are children out there who are the same age as I was in 2004 and they might never have played FRLG on the GBA.

I'm playing through Pokemon Unbound on my Steam Deck and it's scratching a decades old itch. I mostly outgrew the games after Gen 1, but that little red Gameboy Pocket got me through many a 9th grade study hall.

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OldQWERTYbastard lemmy.world OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world
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#89 · Quote Reply

What is the point of having Nintendo online if Nintendo isn't going to release the games/DLC you want on Nintendo online?

I've got my ROMS permanently so I'm saving my money.

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IndustryStandard lemmy.world IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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#90 · Quote Reply

People complain but they keep buying Nintendo trash so why not

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BoosBeau lemmy.world BoosBeau@lemmy.world
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#91 · Quote Reply

"Neither of these answers seem to address the question of why the games could not also be part of the Switch Online's GBA collection... or why the games are priced at $20 each..."

Nintendo:

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greybeard feddit.online greybeard@feddit.online
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#92 · Quote Reply

I would have loved like a Mario all Stars of retro Pokemon games. They don’t even have to get fancy with it. Give me like Gen 1-5 and we’re good. Or hell, even just Gen 1-3 and I’d be happy.

I always thought it would be cool to have a pack of the games that allows trading between the versions, or at least tracking of the pokedex across versions. I'm not crazy enough to play every single version, but if they had every version of every game for several gens, with a central pokedex, it would let the super fans try to completely fill out the dex.

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Scrollone feddit.it Scrollone@feddit.it
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#93 · Quote Reply

People complain but they keep buying Nintendo trash so why not

Yes i think it's morally correct to pirate their games

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w3dd1e lemmy.zip W3dd1e@lemmy.zip
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#94 · Quote Reply

This is the real reason Nintendo is suing emulators and ROM hosts. They JUST realized there is a market for this. Took them 30+ years to figure it out.

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Green Wizard lemmy.zip TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip
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#95 · Quote Reply

Obligatory fuck nintendo

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iamthetot piefed.ca iamthetot@piefed.ca
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#96 · Quote Reply

This is the real reason Nintendo is suing emulators and ROM hosts. They JUST realized there is a market for this. Took them 30+ years to figure it out.

I mean, not really. Nintendo has been fairly consistent about rereleasing old titles for many many years now.

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iamthetot piefed.ca iamthetot@piefed.ca
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#97 · Quote Reply

People complain but they keep buying Nintendo trash so why not

Generally speaking, the people complaining are not the people doing the buying.

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IndustryStandard lemmy.world IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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#98 · Quote Reply

Generally speaking, the people complaining are not the people doing the buying.

It sure seems like they are in the case of Nintendo.

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TheBunGod lemmy.world TheBunGod@lemmy.world
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#99 · Quote Reply

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I think Nintendo is right

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I Cast Fist programming.dev ICastFist@programming.dev
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#100 · Quote Reply

Time to pirate FR to play on my phone just as a tiny middle finger to nintendo, who can't do shit against me in Brazil 🇧🇷 🖕

Oh, let me also play more Palworld, who's having to fight bullshit patents

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ElectricMachman lemmy.sdf.org LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2023-06-09
#101 · Quote Reply

Yes, but not mainline Pokémon games.

Exactly. No excuse back then, even less an excuse now

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