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ZombiFrancis sh.itjust.works ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-24
#52 · Quote Reply

I don't want to say specifically where I'm from, but I am originally from South East Asia. A common theory for the relative gender equality is because of the sea-faring, nomadic culture of Austronesians, who populated South East Asia and later the Pacific. Apparently, because of the lifestyle and constant movement, the workload is distributed between men and women, which promotes egalitarianism...

Being generic here, but the concept of Hijra is not controversial or unaccepted across SE asia, correct? Or at least to the best of my knowledge (Cambodia and Burma).

I tend to pose just having such uncontested language goes a long way for gender roles (and conformance) not being such a puritanical binary like it is in the American anglosphere.

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chaogomu lemmy.world chaogomu@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-04
#53 · Quote Reply

It is though. The bitterness I felt for the world subsided (a little) once I felt I had a stake in it. Bootlicker answer I know, but its true

Did you not live in the world before owning a tiny piece of it?

This same land ownership argument was made in the 1640s, and then again in the 1770s, all to limit the rights of poor people in favor of the rich landlords.

The rich assholes won the English civil wars, mostly because the opposition didn't know what the hell they wanted or how to get it. And then Oliver Cromwell died without preparing any sort of successor.

The new American government, having eventually learned its lesson, quickly abandoned the land ownership requirements for voting because it never made any god damn sense in the first place, and was just a way to keep poor people down, and the poor had just learned how to wage a war on absentee landlords.

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DylanMc6 [any, any] lemmy.dbzer0.com DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-12-04
#54 · Quote Reply

I really hope Jaieilgin's ex-significant other is making out with the lady who went as Columbia in that Rocky Horror midnight screening she went - I also hope she's going as Magenta.

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tetris11 feddit.uk tetris11@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-17
#55 · Quote Reply

Did you not live in the world before owning a tiny piece of it? This same land ownership argument was made in the 1640s, and then again in the 1770s, all to limit the rights of poor people in favor of the rich landlords. The rich assholes won the English civil wars, mostly because the opposition didn't know what the hell they wanted or how to get it. And then Oliver Cromwell died without prepar...

I did, but I lived in the optimism that my work ethic would easily win me a stable place within it. It was only after several moves, moving up a few rungs in the ladder, and hitting my late thirties did I realise what a crock it all was.

Also I'm not advocating that landowners are the only ones who should vote, the Earl Gray sat through that mess in the 1830s. I'm saying that one's emotionally driven feelings towards the system subsides somewhat when one is persecuted less by it, which makes sense.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#56 · Quote Reply

*a few. I like to believe wars were fought more over resource domineering than ideology or emotion Otherwise jesus are we lost as a species

Yeah. Wars weren't fought because a king had a temper tantrum. Wars were mostly fought to control land.

This is mistaking cause and effect. Fighting over land results in a lot of strong emotions. Emotions aren't the cause of fighting over land.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#57 · Quote Reply

It's really amazing to me that we're about to hit the 250th anniversary of the founding of the USA, and this is basically advocating going back to how votes worked worked way back when the country was founded.

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littlewonder lemmy.world littlewonder@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#58 · Quote Reply

In all seriousness, as a guy, I am genuinely gobsmacked at how many men feel entitled to sex and blame their insecurities and lack of dating skills on women. Looking back, I'm glad that I came from a culture where it's more egalitarian. The schools I went to taught us that feminism is about equality between men and women. It's not about one gender being superior to the other. When I was younger...

Sometimes it's a willful misunderstanding of feminism.

A strawman they've built in their heads from the words of their tv news preachers enables them to continue to hate women.

Listening to actual feminists and taking a minute to understand how it benefits everyone is hard and means they might have to stop feeding their delicious hate.

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tetris11 feddit.uk tetris11@feddit.uk
Joined: 2025-02-17
#59 · Quote Reply

Yeah. Wars weren't fought because a king had a temper tantrum. Wars were mostly fought to control land. This is mistaking cause and effect. Fighting over land results in a lot of strong emotions. Emotions aren't the cause of fighting over land.

I mean the War of the Roses was fought initially for resources/control, but began to become more about settling bitter feuds than economic gain. But I see these as exceptions

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MystikIncarnate lemmy.ca MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-05
#60 · Quote Reply

I would say that the majority of women that I know are more emotionally intelligent than the guys I know....

Most of the guys I know are emotionally repressed because they need to be a man.

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abbiistabbii piefed.blahaj.zone abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-08
#61 · Quote Reply

I've literally seen men riot over a ball game.

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UnderpantsWeevil lemmy.world UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#62 · Quote Reply

I've literally seen men riot over a ball game.

Philadelphia officials grease city light poles, often with Crisco or hydraulic fluid, to prevent fans from climbing them during major sports celebrations, notably for the Philadelphia Eagles.

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abbiistabbii piefed.blahaj.zone abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-08
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

Philadelphia officials grease city light poles, often with Crisco or hydraulic fluid, to prevent fans from climbing them during major sports celebrations, notably for the Philadelphia Eagles.

Every time there's football matches between Rangers and Celtic in Glasgow, they send out the riot police because shit can get violent very easily.

On the other side of the central belt in Edinburgh, there were plans to have separators on the trams to keep Hibs and Hearts fans separate.

London tube trains have to skip some stations on match days to prevent certain fans mixing and fighting. Doesn't stop them banging on the tube trains. Arsenal tube station has bars specifically designed to stop rival teams fighting each other on the stairs.

Millwall fans are so notoriously violent when the Dockland's light railway was being built, rather than naming a station "Millwall" they named it "Mudchute". Do you know how bad you have to be to have your area's station named after a euphemism for arsehole.

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optional sh.itjust.works brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-04-08
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

I second this. Every woman reaching voting age should be eligible to their own patch of land to live on. As should every man. Let's expropriate the real estate companies! 🚩

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romanticremedy lemmy.blahaj.zone romanticremedy@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-02-08
#65 · Quote Reply

Is your experience reading the OP? Because that post is full of emotion. I think the post is ironic but after Alanis Morissette I'm never sure anymore.

Personal experience as well.

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plyth feddit.org plyth@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-05-11
#66 · Quote Reply

I've literally seen men riot over a ball game.

Those are justified emotions!

spoiler

/s

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plyth feddit.org plyth@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-05-11
#67 · Quote Reply

From my experience, men are emotional too so his dumb ass point is invalid

Technically he isn't arguing that men don't have emotions but that they don't have 1000s of emotions per minute.

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Ghostie lemmy.zip Ghostie@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-16
#68 · Quote Reply

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Saledovil sh.itjust.works Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-10
#69 · Quote Reply

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I though the idea was to deface the post to show that you disagree with it.

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FrChazzz lemmus.org FrChazzz@lemmus.org
Joined: 2025-06-04
#70 · Quote Reply

I've literally seen men riot over a ball game.

My kids sometimes like to watch compilations of "fail" videos. The sheer number of clips involving adult-age males either punching or ripping their televisions off the wall as a result of a sports (or video game) outcome amazes me (but probably shouldn't). I always tell me kids (especially my daughter) that if they ever see someone do this, they need to leave immediately and not have any kind of interactions with this person. If they're willing to beat the hell out of a television, they'll do the same to you.

I've launched a few controllers in my day. But that day was when I was like 15 and I was an emotionally volatile little shit who still needed to learn to manage his emotions. Can't believe that we have dudes who never grew out of this phase, only doubling down, running around acting like they're the superior sex.

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abbiistabbii piefed.blahaj.zone abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-08
#71 · Quote Reply

My kids sometimes like to watch compilations of "fail" videos. The sheer number of clips involving adult-age males either punching or ripping their televisions off the wall as a result of a sports (or video game) outcome amazes me (but probably shouldn't). I always tell me kids (especially my daughter) that if they ever see someone do this, they need to leave immediately and not have any kind o...

You sir. You are a good man.

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IronBird lemmy.world IronBird@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-06
#72 · Quote Reply

Did you not live in the world before owning a tiny piece of it? This same land ownership argument was made in the 1640s, and then again in the 1770s, all to limit the rights of poor people in favor of the rich landlords. The rich assholes won the English civil wars, mostly because the opposition didn't know what the hell they wanted or how to get it. And then Oliver Cromwell died without prepar...

the smugglers and slavers that started the american civil war over taxes they didn't want to pay were all landowners too

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m0stlyharmless lemmy.zip m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-11
#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

I can't say I agree with you historically, but you have a point. Bear with me here. In pre-industrial societies, the two ways to sustain more people were either to use the land more efficiently (agriculture in fertile areas, pastorage in marginal lands) or to have more land. Agriculture can only sustain so many people without modern tools, specialised crops, irrigation technology and so on. At ...

This is a great write up. Thank you for writing it.

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TankovayaDiviziya lemmy.world TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-22
#74 · Quote Reply

Being generic here, but the concept of Hijra is not controversial or unaccepted across SE asia, correct? Or at least to the best of my knowledge (Cambodia and Burma). I tend to pose just having such uncontested language goes a long way for gender roles (and conformance) not being such a puritanical binary like it is in the American anglosphere.

The hijra are on South Asia or the Indian subcontinent. I don't know exactly what their social status is but it might differ from one part of South Asia to another.

I don't know much about Burma and Cambodia so I can't comment. Barring Malaysia and Indonesia, since they are Muslim-majority countries, the lgbt community in Philippines and Thailand is widespread and less stigmatised. We all know how accepting Thailand is of lgbt, and in Philippines many gays and lesbians are tolerated, but not accepted due to Catholic reasons for still refusing same sex marriage. However, before the Spanish colonisation of Philippines, gay men or bakla were conferred a special status as clerics in religious occasions, similar to hijra in South Asia and third spirit among Native Americans. Despite the Christian influence, the tolerance of lgbt in Philippines is still intact.

I tend to pose just having such uncontested language goes a long way for gender roles (and conformance) not being such a puritanical binary like it is in the American anglosphere.

Austronesian languages are not gendered. There is no he or she. Probably the closest translation of singular pronouns to English from Austronesian languages is "they", which may sound awkward to gendered language speakers.

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Hazzard lemmy.zip Hazzard@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-28
#75 · Quote Reply

My kids sometimes like to watch compilations of "fail" videos. The sheer number of clips involving adult-age males either punching or ripping their televisions off the wall as a result of a sports (or video game) outcome amazes me (but probably shouldn't). I always tell me kids (especially my daughter) that if they ever see someone do this, they need to leave immediately and not have any kind o...

Yuuup, smashed a controller or two in my time, and quickly learned that I don't like when my stuff breaks, and have to master my emotions better/find better ways to vent, and then I did. Wild to watch full grown adults who never learned the same, and are just... wasting money replacing things, I guess.

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OldChicoAle lemmy.world OldChicoAle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-26
#76 · Quote Reply

It's jaicilgin. He's an incel that says women should be owned by men. He's perpetuating the male loneliness epidemic by encouraging men to be terrible pieces of shit.

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#77 · Quote Reply

And men don't? I am willing to bet that the most wars in history could be traced to men who couldn't cope with their emotions in a healthy way.

War is men not coping with their emotions in a healthy way. There is more than that to it, sure, but that is the central pillar at the core of every war throughout documented history.

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#78 · Quote Reply

Yeah. Wars weren't fought because a king had a temper tantrum. Wars were mostly fought to control land. This is mistaking cause and effect. Fighting over land results in a lot of strong emotions. Emotions aren't the cause of fighting over land.

It is, though, compromise and negotiation would be the healthy way to deal with these things, fighting over them is a failure of emotional control, it’s required by at least one side of those kinds of conflicts. And many a war was indeed fought due to kings having temper tantrums.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#79 · Quote Reply

It is, though, compromise and negotiation would be the healthy way to deal with these things, fighting over them is a failure of emotional control, it’s required by at least one side of those kinds of conflicts. And many a war was indeed fought due to kings having temper tantrums.

If your army can easily crush the enemy and they refuse to give you the resources you want, it's not an emotional decision to go to war to get it. It might be an immoral one, but so is demanding the resources in the first place.

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#80 · (edited) Quote Reply

If your army can easily crush the enemy and they refuse to give you the resources you want, it's not an emotional decision to go to war to get it. It might be an immoral one, but so is demanding the resources in the first place.

You really see that as the emotionally healthy way to deal with these kinds of situations? Building an army and crushing all who cannot stand against you so that you can take what they have and force your control over them?

Telling. Very telling.

Immoral = emotionally unhealthy.

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SkaveRat discuss.tchncs.de SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-09
#81 · Quote Reply

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I call it "hentai censoring"

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#82 · Quote Reply

You really see that as the emotionally healthy way to deal with these kinds of situations? Building an army and crushing all who cannot stand against you so that you can take what they have and force your control over them? Telling. Very telling. Immoral = emotionally unhealthy.

It's very telling that you think emotion has anything to do with it.

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Lka1988 sh.itjust.works lka1988@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#83 · Quote Reply

It's very telling that you think emotion has anything to do with it.

A better question is: what caused the dispute in the first place? Who the true aggressor?

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#84 · Quote Reply

It's very telling that you think emotion has anything to do with it.

You’re letting us know a lot about yourself there.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#85 · Quote Reply

You’re letting us know a lot about yourself there.

You're letting us know a lot about you here.

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#86 · Quote Reply

You're letting us know a lot about you here.

Yeah, like how I’m not a fucking sociopath.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#87 · Quote Reply

Yeah, like how I’m not a fucking sociopath.

I dunno, not being able to see the humanity of other people is worrying.

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#88 · Quote Reply

I dunno, not being able to see the humanity of other people is worrying.

Yeah, that’s what I was pointing put the entire time.

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merc sh.itjust.works merc@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#89 · Quote Reply

Yeah, that’s what I was pointing put the entire time.

Exactly, so you are a sociopath.

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NotASharkInAManSuit lemmy.world NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-05-06
#90 · Quote Reply

Exactly, so you are a sociopath.

Sure.

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FrChazzz lemmus.org FrChazzz@lemmus.org
Joined: 2025-06-04
#91 · Quote Reply

Yuuup, smashed a controller or two in my time, and quickly learned that I don't like when my stuff breaks, and have to master my emotions better/find better ways to vent, and then I did. Wild to watch full grown adults who never learned the same, and are just... wasting money replacing things, I guess.

My SNES controller still bears the scars of when I smacked it into my grandparents' brick fireplace when I was 12. And I learned the importance of controlling my emotions as a result of the time I got mad at Panzer Dragoon Saga and ripped the disc out of my Saturn--scratching it EXACTLY where I was stuck in the game (like, it ran fine until that particular boss battle began, then it glitched out). I was able to fix the disc years later with a Disc Doctor (and still have the game), but given how rare and valuable that game is these days I still feel the pang of regret for having such a short temper. But the silver lining to that is that it all began a process of learning to properly handle my emotions AND gives me a good cautionary tale to tell my kids when they start getting mad at games and I tell them to take a break.

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