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anon_8675309
lemmy.world
anon_8675309@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-01 |
Buy used ETA: and prevent waste I meant from individuals, not corporations with a profitable refurbishing outfit. e.g.: eBay, thrift shops, the swap shop at your local dump (if you're lucky to have one), yard sales, etc. One of my favorite things in life is rescuing hardware from the landfill, or bringing a relative's dusty old machine back to life. There are still loads of people out there who...
Everyone IS so there’s a run on those also. |
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kewjo
lemmy.world
kewjo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
It's nice how AI datacenters step by step swallow virtually all available hardware resources to provide digital services to users who won't be able to use those services due to the lack of available hardware.
that's okay they will replace users with AI. it's going to be AI all the way down |
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SlippiHUD
lemmy.world
SlippiHUD@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-21 |
so much wrong with this title. it's not AI, it's LLM slop bullshit it's not the software at guilt here, it's the sacks of shit running those companies who plan such data centers blamed? No, those shitheads are totally and absolutely responsible for this clusterfuck.
They've gone so far as to claim responsibility. |
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Tom Arrr
lemmy.world
TomArrr@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-08-17 |
They've gone so far as to claim responsibility.
You mean brag about it? |
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dan69
lemmy.world
dan69@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-01 |
I’ve two countem two 500gb HDD by WD, starting price is 2500$. And I’ll throw in external cases for 100$ (the cables are blue meaning usb 3.0 a which are 250$) |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
shit dude I'll move my storage to S3 and retire on what I can get from my 16tb array and 20tb backup. |
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masterofn001
lemmy.ca
masterofn001@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-12 |
It's nice how AI datacenters step by step swallow virtually all available hardware resources to provide digital services to users who won't be able to use those services due to the lack of available hardware.
Hardware will be available, silly. ^†^ You will have the "freedom" ^‡^ to choose from the hardware vendor* you want. Like always! ^‡‡^ ^†^ ^For^ ^$49.95^ ^per^ ^month.^ ^Terms and conditions and government social score apply.^ ^‡‡^ ^Authorized and approved by the department of national security and intelligence gathering agencies and the billionaire technofascist bros clubh^ |
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lechekaflan
lemmy.world
lechekaflan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-21 |
We do know about it. Most of the big name ai services are all public about working for government enforcement agencies. Palantir, Flock, Boston Dynamics, Tesla xAI, etc
Skynet or Sauron.
This goddamn timeline. |
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skisnow
lemmy.ca
skisnow@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-22 |
Less skynet and more a surveillance state thats gonna put England and even CCP to shame. They need the hard drives because they're storing everything about us. Every time we drive by a camera, gps paths of our cell phones constant travel, every bank transaction including small purchases, every social media comment, page we view from WiFi or cellphone, all our connections to everyone else, tags ...
It's extremely unhealthy for a free society, to have too much power imbalance between the ruling classes and the people. |
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IratePirate
feddit.org
IratePirate@feddit.org Joined: 2026-02-02 |
I get paid on the 27th, I need two more 8TB drives to complete my NAS, my local retailer had 50+ in stock earlier this week, and now the drives are no longer even listed. Fuck sake...
Go Toshiba. If American companies got us into this mess in the first place, fuck American companies! |
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cenzorrll
piefed.ca
cenzorrll@piefed.ca Joined: 2025-07-10 |
that crash and burn will be the onus of the consumer not being able to consume. we will lose access to free range computing and have to live with asking AI for permission to use the computing power and network resources to play a game or pay our bills online. And paytoll for that permission. that will be the crash and burn victims here.
I brought my 2003 laptop back to life for shits and giggles recently. It's made me realize how bloated software has become. It's still just as usable as it was 20 years ago when you remove all the fancy crap and use programs designed for tasks rather than living in a web browser. Sure its not fast, but once I replaced the spinning drive with an ssd, it became pretty damn usable in a modern day scenario. I really thought I would just upgrade as far as I could for fun, then slap an old archived distro on there from my college days for some good old PTSD/nostalgia. But it's actually usable so I occasionally pull it out and do stuff on it. I'm ready to slap jaunty jackalope on it and relive going to my uni's library to write a 10 page research paper thats due the next day, but it's still ready to rock in modern times. |
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BabyVi
lemmy.world
BabyVi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I bought a 22tb hdd from serverpartdeals in late December of 2025. Its now $100 more expensive, I'm glad I read the tea leaves in time but this sucks. |
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m3t00🌎🇺🇦
lemmy.world
m3t00@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-01 |
no wonder they need so much power/rare earths. ssds next |
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stoy
lemmy.zip
stoy@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-10-17 |
Go Toshiba. If American companies got us into this mess in the first place, fuck American companies!
I will if I can, as it stands I have four 8TB seagate drives, enough for my actual storage need, but I want to have two parity drives for extra protection. I am planning on running ZFS with Zraid2, the drives are the final piece of the puzzle to at least get it working. When I planned the build, I planned to get another controller card and run two SSDs as well, one for cache (I can add that later), and one for VM/App storage, I also planned on getting an Intel GPU for transcoding video, and a 10Gig NIC, mainly just to say I have it, as my network isn't more than normal gigabit. It is getting more important to complete the build as I need to move my media from single, non raided hard drives in my computer to a well raided server that I can configure for bitrot protection. |
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finalarbiter
lemmy.dbzer0.com
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-08-16 |
Honestly which companies does that leave?
I think it has to be considered by degree of consumer-fucking. Some companies, like Micron, are outright discontinuing their consumer brands while others are 'just' deprioritizing consumers to chase the AI bandwagon. It's those companies' prerogative to chase profits, but I'll never buy another Micron product again if they ever decide to come crawling back. |
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IratePirate
feddit.org
IratePirate@feddit.org Joined: 2026-02-02 |
The worst part is that we don't something, and by saying something, I mean boycott them. Look what they are doing to us, just to build AI data centers. Worst part, is that there is no progress of AI. It is used only for capitalist profits by companies(support chat bots, girlfriend AI and goes on).\
Boycott is under way. In my bubble, people are ditching American goods and services left and right, including Windows. The combination of "Murica first" (fascist edition) and big tech overreach has prompted people to make good use of their middle fingers. |
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IratePirate
feddit.org
IratePirate@feddit.org Joined: 2026-02-02 |
I will if I can, as it stands I have four 8TB seagate drives, enough for my actual storage need, but I want to have two parity drives for extra protection. I am planning on running ZFS with Zraid2, the drives are the final piece of the puzzle to at least get it working. When I planned the build, I planned to get another controller card and run two SSDs as well, one for cache (I can add that lat...
That's a much more sophisticated setup than mine! It may even be overkill (depending on what it is you want to host, and to how many). I've been running two enterprise-grade Toshiba 16TB drives in a btrfs RAID1 since last summer. No SSD for caching (though the OS and my Docker containers run on one, with regular syncs to the slower spinning drives). No complaints so far. |
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black0ut
pawb.social
black0ut@pawb.socialJoined: 2023-06-10 |
I bought a 22tb hdd from serverpartdeals in late December of 2025. Its now $100 more expensive, I'm glad I read the tea leaves in time but this sucks.
I got a 16TB HDD for 300€, yesterday I looked at it and it was 800€ (apparently discounted from 1000€ lol) |
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IratePirate
feddit.org
IratePirate@feddit.org Joined: 2026-02-02 |
no wonder they need so much power/rare earths. ssds next
SSDs were first, actually, with HDDs now following suit. |
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IratePirate
feddit.org
IratePirate@feddit.org Joined: 2026-02-02 |
I bought a 22tb hdd from serverpartdeals in late December of 2025. Its now $100 more expensive, I'm glad I read the tea leaves in time but this sucks.
Same. Scored two 16TB drives and a 4GB in summer of 2025 (by pure chance though). They're now 150%-200% the original price. Cannot wait to see this bubble pop. |
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da_cow (she/her)
feddit.org
cows_are_underrated@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-22 |
SSDs were first, actually, with HDDs now following suit.
Theres a reason we have 256TB SSDs. Consumers dont really need them and they are of limited value vor conventional Datacentres. |
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stoy
lemmy.zip
stoy@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-10-17 |
That's a much more sophisticated setup than mine! It may even be overkill (depending on what it is you want to host, and to how many). I've been running two enterprise-grade Toshiba 16TB drives in a btrfs RAID1 since last summer. No SSD for caching (though the OS and my Docker containers run on one, with regular syncs to the slower spinning drives). No complaints so far.
I know it is a bit complex, but after seeing the shenanigans Synology tried to play and reading review about Ugreen NAS units and how they seem to connect to external servers often, I just decided to roll my own TrueNAS build. I am using an AMD Ryzen 4600G, 32GB of RAM, a 500GB boot SSD, the only mATX board I could find with six SATA ports, the Asus B550m Pro4 and a Corsair SF750 750W PSU to power it all. |
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IratePirate
feddit.org
IratePirate@feddit.org Joined: 2026-02-02 |
I know it is a bit complex, but after seeing the shenanigans Synology tried to play and reading review about Ugreen NAS units and how they seem to connect to external servers often, I just decided to roll my own TrueNAS build. I am using an AMD Ryzen 4600G, 32GB of RAM, a 500GB boot SSD, the only mATX board I could find with six SATA ports, the Asus B550m Pro4 and a Corsair SF750 750W PSU to po...
Props for the powerful DIY! You're right about the pre-built models. I'm coming from a QNAP one, and while they're good for learning the ropes, they'll become pretty limited after a while. That, and the shit they're trying to pull with proprietary HDDs. A self-made rig gives you a lot more flexibility, although it requires you to learn a bit more. But seeing that you're already getting comfortable with GFS, I guess you'll manage just fine! |
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Lemminary
lemmy.world
Lemminary@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-13 |
Welp, I guess I'm all out of money for new tech. Time to travel or find a new hobby. |
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stoy
lemmy.zip
stoy@lemmy.zip Joined: 2023-10-17 |
Props for the powerful DIY! You're right about the pre-built models. I'm coming from a QNAP one, and while they're good for learning the ropes, they'll become pretty limited after a while. That, and the shit they're trying to pull with proprietary HDDs. A self-made rig gives you a lot more flexibility, although it requires you to learn a bit more. But seeing that you're already getting comforta...
To be perfectly honest, I don't know what GFS is, I have been a Linux sysadmin for a few years, but never came across that. We used LVM and ext4 for the storage in those VMs |
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IratePirate
feddit.org
IratePirate@feddit.org Joined: 2026-02-02 |
To be perfectly honest, I don't know what GFS is, I have been a Linux sysadmin for a few years, but never came across that. We used LVM and ext4 for the storage in those VMs
If you've got that experience under your belt, you'll be just fine. I haven't tackled zfs myself yet (I'm lacking the RAM, plus I was put off by the ECC RAM recommendation). But I know it unifies a lot of the things you're already familiar with under one roof (volume management and journaling) and adds more cool features (snapshotting, RAID, encryption, bitrot protection) without you having to combine and manage several different technologies (mdadm for RAID, LVM, LUKS, ...). I did that on my main rig and it turned out to be rather complex. Hence the switch to btrfs to at least squash a bit of complexity. If you'd rather continue working with the storage technologies you know and avoid zfs, you may want to look into other OSs than TrueNAS (because that is zfs only). Two I'm running and can recommend are
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SlippiHUD
lemmy.world
SlippiHUD@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-21 |
You mean brag about it?
I was trying to use the same language the news uses when a political group claims resposibilty for a bombing. |
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jaykrown
lemmy.world
jaykrown@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-11-20 |
I'm glad I bought an 8 TB HDD about a year ago as an investment, it's now $50 more expensive a year later. I don't plan on ever filling it up, but it's been helpful, and good insurance to have if I ever create a project that requires that space. |
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thatKamGuy
sh.itjust.works
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-11 |
On the upside, homelabs are going to have a glut of high capacity, barely used server hard drives to choose from then this AI/data centre bubble eventually bursts? |
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ZILtoid1991
lemmy.world
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-03-16 |
On the upside, homelabs are going to have a glut of high capacity, barely used server hard drives to choose from then this AI/data centre bubble eventually bursts?
If it bursts, that is. I have a fear that people behind AI have grown so savvy of the bubbles, that they have a complicated plan to avoid it, and artificially uphold it with the help of bribed/blackmailed politicians. |
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tensor_nightly69
lemmy.world
tensor_nightly69@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-10-01 |
I recently checked on the price of the used 12TB server drive I bought a couple years ago. It was 80 then. It's 260 now. Same seller.
I'm guessing you got similar drives to the ones I got. I paid ~$72 each (4x 12TB), and now the same HGST DC drives from the same seller are $220. Just glad I got them when I did, even though now I have to continually prune the data so it all fits within this forever limit. |
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thingAmaBob
lemmy.world
thingAmaBob@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-15 |
I was able to update 2 of 3 devices early last year, but couldn’t upgrade my old custom build. I did that due to possible tariffs; didn’t even think about this “AI” BS. Thought may as well just buy a custom build now. Wanted to wait another year, but I won’t be upset no matter what happens with prices if I get it now. I’m not sure my old girl can outlive the return of easily available PC parts. At least I also bought some extra storage over a year ago. |
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deepflows
lemmy.today
deepflows@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-12-19 |
Welp, I guess I'm all out of money for new tech. Time to travel or find a new hobby.
These sound like great ideas. Additionally, I find that making the most of the hardware I already have can be really satisfying, too. |
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Joined: 2023-06-16 |
These sound like great ideas. Additionally, I find that making the most of the hardware I already have can be really satisfying, too.
This feels like you're about to try and sell me on linux. |
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spechter
feddit.org
spechter@feddit.org Joined: 2025-06-29 |
If it bursts, that is. I have a fear that people behind AI have grown so savvy of the bubbles, that they have a complicated plan to avoid it, and artificially uphold it with the help of bribed/blackmailed politicians.
As every industry before them did. |
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bthest
lemmy.world
bold_atlas@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-31 |
If it bursts, that is. I have a fear that people behind AI have grown so savvy of the bubbles, that they have a complicated plan to avoid it, and artificially uphold it with the help of bribed/blackmailed politicians.
Pretty much. So much trading is done automatically by algorithms. There's no panic selling anymore because the human factor is gone. Of course something will have to break eventually. |
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fierysparrow89
lemmy.world
fierysparrow89@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-07 |
Apparently there is a huge demand for storage, both RAM and disk. Oh, and GPUs... So what happens when large number of people are looking to buy stuff? In time, I think there is a silver lining here... |
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deepflows
lemmy.today
deepflows@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-12-19 |
This feels like you're about to try and sell me on linux.
It does sound like that, doesn’t it. I’ve been down that rabbit hole, but currently my only Linux device is a steam deck. Apple stuff for most things, pc for AAA gaming. So, no. I like Linux, but I really meant that I increasingly manage to find some satisfaction in getting „my money‘s worth“ out of my hardware instead of finding excuses to buy new stuff. |
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Appoxo
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-01 |
Blamed? |
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BananaIsABerry
lemmy.zip
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-30 |
Apparently there is a huge demand for storage, both RAM and disk. Oh, and GPUs... So what happens when large number of people are looking to buy stuff? In time, I think there is a silver lining here...
Demand went up but supply hasn't adjusted, and maybe won't, to meet it. I'd imagine the parts manufacturers would be worried about the bubble bursting as much as we are cheering it on. |
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Bakkoda
lemmy.world
Bakkoda@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-28 |
Demand went up but supply hasn't adjusted, and maybe won't, to meet it. I'd imagine the parts manufacturers would be worried about the bubble bursting as much as we are cheering it on.
The the demand stays elastic and the supply doesn't then you can just scale the pricing as much as you want. Saying you're sold out for the year is literally telling everyone in advance the prices will continue to be manipulated . |
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fierysparrow89
lemmy.world
fierysparrow89@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-07 |
Demand went up but supply hasn't adjusted, and maybe won't, to meet it. I'd imagine the parts manufacturers would be worried about the bubble bursting as much as we are cheering it on.
I don't mean existing manufacturers necessarily. Unfortunately there are no certainties, but I'd say give it some time. These chips are (or at the very least becoming) strategic commodities, so the greater the squeeze the more appealing the business case will be. Besides, both the US and EU want to grow their chip manufacturing capacity and it's not like there is no investment money available. So at some point production capacity will grow. |
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bridgeenjoyer
sh.itjust.works
bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-06 |
This is how they kill home computing and force everyone to bezos net with your drumpf Gold terminal ($390/month with KKK membership) Fuck ALL these peoole. |
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reksas
sopuli.xyz
reksas@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-11 |
those who promote ai usage and even pay for it ought to be blamed too. While I can see some benefits in using llm for some things, way things currently are the negatives way outweigh the positives. Using it should be something to be ashamed about so this shit collapses sooner and maybe we can get some peace. Maybe once all the commotion dies down llm could become useful tool, but if its tied to destruction of our way of life (planet dying, economic disruption, no components for regular people) then it just has to go. Alternative is we just submit and hope our owners dont abuse us too much. |
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Binturong
lemmy.ca
Binturong@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-05 |
This framing is journalistic malpractice. Using the term blamed implies room for doubt where there is none, it's a clear and provable driver of this issue. We desperately need public funding for journalism, as long as outlets rely on private investment to function there will always be this kind of manipulation and bias infused into news media. |
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BananaIsABerry
lemmy.zip
BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-30 |
I don't mean existing manufacturers necessarily. Unfortunately there are no certainties, but I'd say give it some time. These chips are (or at the very least becoming) strategic commodities, so the greater the squeeze the more appealing the business case will be. Besides, both the US and EU want to grow their chip manufacturing capacity and it's not like there is no investment money available. ...
Don't discount China in this race either. Gamers nexus did an interesting video about china's push to become a contender in the DIMM market too. Guess it's all speculation for now anyway. |
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themachinestops
lemmy.dbzer0.com
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-19 |
I bought a 22tb hdd from serverpartdeals in late December of 2025. Its now $100 more expensive, I'm glad I read the tea leaves in time but this sucks.
28 TB is now sold out in serverpartsdeals, guess we have to wait till the bubbles pops. |
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Joanie Parker
lemmy.world
LifeLikeLady@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
This framing is journalistic malpractice. Using the term blamed implies room for doubt where there is none, it's a clear and provable driver of this issue. We desperately need public funding for journalism, as long as outlets rely on private investment to function there will always be this kind of manipulation and bias infused into news media.
Funny thing, we had that back before the 80's. Yeah Republicans killed it. and now we're in the shit show you see all around. |
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Binturong
lemmy.ca
Binturong@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-05 |
Funny thing, we had that back before the 80's. Yeah Republicans killed it. and now we're in the shit show you see all around.
Huh, I wonder why they would do that... So Weird (tm). Surely unrelated to the tRump republicans axeing PBS funding in this current term... |
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