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Mean Height of 19yo Males in Select Countries, 1985-2019
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qaz lemmy.world qaz@lemmy.world
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KaKi87 jlai.lu KaKi87@jlai.lu
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What a weird set of countries.

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The_Donkey piefed.social Ja7sh_The_Donkey@piefed.social
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boredsquirrel (he) slrpnk.net boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net
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Crazy! Did the small chinese hight come from malnourishment or hard labor? Otherwise that increase would be hard to describe right?

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DrunkenPirate feddit.org DrunkenPirate@feddit.org
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You see when those countries started to use growth hormones in swine farming.

As far as I know India doesn’t eat so much pork. US most likely prefers beef.

Btw Asean people born and raised in West Europe grow tall as well. It must be the food. And to lower degree environment.

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9point6 lemmy.world 9point6@lemmy.world
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You see when those countries started to use growth hormones in swine farming. As far as I know India doesn’t eat so much pork. US most likely prefers beef. Btw Asean people born and raised in West Europe grow tall as well. It must be the food. And to lower degree environment.

I'm tall because ham?

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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
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the US doesn’t use cm

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hitmyspot aussie.zone hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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I'm tall because ham?

Not ham in particular, but high protein availability and nourishment. Not for just wealthy people. For most people. That’s not discounting poverty in any country.

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DrunkenPirate feddit.org DrunkenPirate@feddit.org
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Not ham in particular, but high protein availability and nourishment. Not for just wealthy people. For most people. That’s not discounting poverty in any country.

The volume of proteins doesn’t explains it. The US eats by far more meat than durch people: 144 to 91 kg.

Check here https://ourworldindata.org/meat-production
You can filter by everthing and select same countries as in this graph.

The dutch heights seem to be a genetic preference as well. Germans eat somehow the same mix with a little less seafood. Btw Germans in the Northern parts - close to Netherlands are quite tall in general. May be seafood.

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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the US doesn’t use cm

they are 3 feet, 2 elbows and a thumb high.

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fiat_lux ⛓️‍💥 lemmy.world fiat_lux@lemmy.world
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Crazy! Did the small chinese hight come from malnourishment or hard labor? Otherwise that increase would be hard to describe right?

Better quality of nutrition - more protein and vegetables. Much more vegetables. An absurd amount more vegetables.

They also fixed their zinc deficiency, which has long been known to affect height.

But seriously, the vegetables.


Graphs pictured:

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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It shows americans growing after a decline, this study from 2025 shows they're still getting smaller

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fiat_lux ⛓️‍💥 lemmy.world fiat_lux@lemmy.world
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The volume of proteins doesn’t explains it. The US eats by far more meat than durch people: 144 to 91 kg. Check here https://ourworldindata.org/meat-production You can filter by everthing and select same countries as in this graph. The dutch heights seem to be a genetic preference as well. Germans eat somehow the same mix with a little less seafood. Btw Germans in the Northern parts - close to ...

Production isn't consumption. A lot of that is for export.

Edit: my mistake, they included the consumption graphs further down..

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espentan lemmy.world espentan@lemmy.world
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they are 3 feet, 2 elbows and a thumb high.

7/16s of a thumb.

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lerba piefed.social baconmonsta@piefed.social
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This is really fascinating!

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Onno (VK6FLAB) lemmy.radio vk6flab@lemmy.radio
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Now do weight ...

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eodur piefed.social eodur@piefed.social
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Better quality of nutrition - more protein and vegetables. Much more vegetables. An absurd amount more vegetables. They also fixed their zinc deficiency, which has long been known to affect height. But seriously, the vegetables. Graphs pictured: Daily supply of calories that are available for consumption, Measured in kilocalories per person per day. 1985 to 2023 Estimated share of the total pop...

Wow. I need to upy vegetable game.

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Zachariah lemmy.world Zachariah@lemmy.world
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they are 3 feet, 2 elbows and a thumb high.

I prefer the standard units of small dogs or the modern bananas for scale.

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hitmyspot aussie.zone hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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The volume of proteins doesn’t explains it. The US eats by far more meat than durch people: 144 to 91 kg. Check here https://ourworldindata.org/meat-production You can filter by everthing and select same countries as in this graph. The dutch heights seem to be a genetic preference as well. Germans eat somehow the same mix with a little less seafood. Btw Germans in the Northern parts - close to ...

Yes, genetics likely plays a part. However, it would matter more about protein during early years, than average across the whole population. Once people are fully grown, it wouldn’t matter so much any more. American diets tend to be higher in fats and refined sugars, so,perhaps that makes a difference but emricans are also at the higher end of the table, despite having a more diverse population, including races that are stereotypically shorter.

I live in Australia and I know that here they have to use different graphs for different races for babies for normal height and weight. The most common European descent population is shorter and less sticky than the Pacific Islander populations and taller and more stocky than the Asian population.

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wildbus8979 sh.itjust.works wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
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You see when those countries started to use growth hormones in swine farming. As far as I know India doesn’t eat so much pork. US most likely prefers beef. Btw Asean people born and raised in West Europe grow tall as well. It must be the food. And to lower degree environment.

Growth hormones aren't legal in farming in Europe (nor Canada).

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ToastedRavioli midwest.social ToastedRavioli@midwest.social
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the US doesn’t use cm

2% of a football field tall

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Currant Affairs piefed.social Swaus01@piefed.social
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What a weird set of countries.
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A🔻atar of 🔻engeance lemmy.ml tastemyglaive@lemmy.ml
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Wow. I need to upy vegetable game.

Unfortunately your government will not allow it on a large scale or allow you to do it too extensively on your own property.

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DrunkenPirate feddit.org DrunkenPirate@feddit.org
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Yes, genetics likely plays a part. However, it would matter more about protein during early years, than average across the whole population. Once people are fully grown, it wouldn’t matter so much any more. American diets tend to be higher in fats and refined sugars, so,perhaps that makes a difference but emricans are also at the higher end of the table, despite having a more diverse population...

You mentioned an important thing migration and grow up. I looked at the migration rate of those countries and it turns out the the Netherlands has the lowest rate. So, as migration typically reduces the overall height - if one assumes its the protein volume in your youth - this would explain the graphs much better. It might be the protein volume not the swine hormones.

https://ourworldindata.org/migration

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EntheoNaut lemmy.ml EntheoNaut@lemmy.ml
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Now do weight ...

Amerikans winning, we greatest!

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screaming in digital lemmy.ml qprimed@lemmy.ml
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I see you have fallen into the "taller male dominant" trap. the great equalizer is the testicle strike - and you have the advantage :-)

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KaKi87 jlai.lu KaKi87@jlai.lu
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Where's the rest of Europe, where's Africa, and where's the Middle East ???

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ComradeSharkfucker lemmy.ml sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml
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Wow its almost like mean height is affected by poverty and nutrition or something

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favoredponcho lemmy.zip favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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ArmchairAce1944 discuss.online ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
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You should add a /s unless you are serious.

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ArmchairAce1944 discuss.online ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online
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The Dutch are incredible. Once upon a time they were the shortest people in Europe. Now they are the tallest in the entire world.

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favoredponcho lemmy.zip favoredponcho@lemmy.zip
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You should add a /s unless you are serious.
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qaz Moderator qaz@lemmy.world
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It's obviously the result of the Dutch living below the sea level and the short drowning, it's quite sad actually.

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Hacksaw lemmy.ca Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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Wow its almost like mean height is affected by poverty and nutrition or something

Yeah I bet if you overlaid life expectancy it would map almost perfectly

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SCmSTR lemmy.blahaj.zone SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Wow its almost like mean height is affected by poverty and nutrition or something

I wonder if there are other non-obvious-once-you-think-about-it-and-stop-being-racist tells

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Eheran lemmy.world Eheran@lemmy.world
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Where's the rest of Europe, where's Africa, and where's the Middle East ???

The chart would be useless with too many, as you would not be able to identify it even see the lines.

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bountygiver [any] lemmy.ml bountygiver@lemmy.ml
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in this day and age, too many people think that way unironically, so if you want to act like a dumbass you must accept to be treated like a dumbass.

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bountygiver [any] lemmy.ml bountygiver@lemmy.ml
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Where's the rest of Europe, where's Africa, and where's the Middle East ???

likely china and india are chosen as they are in the progress of uplifting poor populations, and the effect can be reflected here (with china already done much more progress).

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Crackhappy lemmy.world Crackhappy@lemmy.world
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The Dutch are incredible. Once upon a time they were the shortest people in Europe. Now they are the tallest in the entire world.

They do a lot of stretching.

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ManfredMumpitz feddit.org ManfredMumpitz@feddit.org
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You should add a /s unless you are serious.

Chill, if anyone is taking this post serious, he's lacking /s in his life

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Hanrahan slrpnk.net hanrahan@slrpnk.net
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welwp, at 186cm i'm about average in The Netherlands.

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anomnom sh.itjust.works anomnom@sh.itjust.works
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Amerikans winning, we greatest!

I think the British passed is a few years back.

We’re starving more people now, plus glp-1s.

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BeatTakeshi lemmy.world BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
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Amerikans winning, we greatest!

Greasiest

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wieson feddit.org wieson@feddit.org
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Yes, genetics likely plays a part. However, it would matter more about protein during early years, than average across the whole population. Once people are fully grown, it wouldn’t matter so much any more. American diets tend to be higher in fats and refined sugars, so,perhaps that makes a difference but emricans are also at the higher end of the table, despite having a more diverse population...

races
💀

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UltraGiGaGigantic lemmy.ml UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
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#45 · Quote Reply

the US doesn’t use cm

https://bananacalculator.com/

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hitmyspot aussie.zone hitmyspot@aussie.zone
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races 💀

Race is a social construct, but it can be a useful differentiator when looking at populations. Race or ethnicity or country or origin etc. Whichever term you prefer.

Ignoring race is what has lead to a lot of poor outcomes for POC as most of the data was based on studies of white people.

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exasperation lemmy.dbzer0.com exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I see you have fallen into the "taller male dominant" trap. the great equalizer is the testicle strike - and you have the advantage :-)

What if it's a really tall man with short legs and an extra long torso though?

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