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TallonMetroid
lemmy.world
TallonMetroid@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-09-06 |
I'm not saying she would've been great regarding Israeli policy, but Netanyahu wanted Trump for a reason. The Iran war and subsequent fuel price shock wouldn't have happened.
Bibi was hawking for a special military operation for the last 4 US presidencies, and only El Taco was dumb enough to agree. |
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Clay_pidgin
sh.itjust.works
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Immigrants can't vote. And non-immigrants make up 0.88% the 2020 population according to wikipedia. Tho I looked into it and "Arab American" doesn't refer to Immigrants so that's my bad.
Ah, you aren't counting immigrants who have gone on to become citizens. A person can be both an immigrant and a citizen. |
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mrdown
lemmy.world
mrdown@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-07-20 |
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I am in a post where people like you are defending one of the two parties sending billions to a settler colonial power committing a genocide, getting mad at people opposing it regardless of their ideology and beliefs. This is beyond American politics. As a decent human being, I have to care. The day your country stops its imperialism, you would be right. I make grammatical mistakes, but I understand English very well, and people understand me too. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
I am in a post where people like you are defending one of the two parties sending billions to a settler colonial power committing a genocide, getting mad at people opposing it regardless of their ideology and beliefs. This is beyond American politics. As a decent human being, I have to care. The day your country stops its imperialism, you would be right. I make grammatical mistakes, but I under...
you and people like you will never understand risk mitigation because you're always focused on the dreamland of your fantasy where everyone can live in one big happy peaceful world. that will never happen while politics, governance, and a thirst for power exist. these are not strictly American traits, these are human traits. get over yourself. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
I know what it means. I'm asking how it factors in
what do you mean how it factors in? |
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mrdown
lemmy.world
mrdown@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-07-20 |
you and people like you will never understand risk mitigation because you're always focused on the dreamland of your fantasy where everyone can live in one big happy peaceful world. that will never happen while politics, governance, and a thirst for power exist. these are not strictly American traits, these are human traits. get over yourself.
The fact is most of the destruction happened during Biden; most of the Palestinians were massacred during Biden's term. The fact is Biden lied about wanting a ceasefire, while Trump managed to have two half-baked ones. You don't even believe that war criminals from both parties should be held accountable and rot in prison. You never posted a single post about war crimes in Lebanon, Palestine or Iran. So just fuck off.
This is the dumbest thing I ever heard. It is pretty much unique to the USA to send billions to a settler colonial power to do genocide . |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
The fact is most of the destruction happened during Biden; most of the Palestinians were massacred during Biden's term. The fact is Biden lied about wanting a ceasefire, while Trump managed to have two half-baked ones. You don't even believe that war criminals from both parties should be held accountable and rot in prison. You never posted a single post about war crimes in Lebanon, Palestine or...
I'm not contesting that, or arguing that.
I see.
Can you point out where I said that?
Irrelevant to the context of the American presidential election. that is what we were discussing after all. the fact that you can't understand how a stable middle east directly benefits the US and is the primary reason why the US is so directly involved is telling. hint, this is part of that "politics, governance, and a thirst for power" I mentioned. what is also telling is the abundance of blame you have for America, Biden, and democrats but a complete avoidance to place any blame on the current administration. you're a troll, plain and simple. |
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mrdown
lemmy.world
mrdown@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-07-20 |
The fact is most of the destruction happened during Biden; most of the Palestinians were massacred during Biden's term. The fact is Biden lied about wanting a ceasefire I'm not contesting that, or arguing that. Trump managed to have two half-baked ones. I see. You don't even believe that war criminals from both parties should be held accountable and rot in prison. Can you point out where I said...
The context is American foreign affairs which impact the whole world. If it was about domestic issues you would be right
The Middle East is not stable because Israel the settler colonial genocidal terroristic state got support from the West for several decades, majoritarily from your shitty country, from your two shitty political parties that are better described as cults.
My history is full of blame for the current administration, but since you pretend to care about Iran and Palestine, you are not aware. Anybody could have 99.9% posts about Trump war crimes and terrible domestic affairs and have just 1% about Biden and Harris, and you would still call them Trump and Republicans. America deserves all the hate it has gotten for being an imperialist power since its foundation, responsible for the largest number of coups and attacked countries post-World War II.
You are the troll since you lie about me, can't address any criticism of your shitty party, and even started shaming me for my English level. |
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ProfThadBach
lemmy.world
ProfThadBach@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-06-20 |
As a Muslim, I don't blame anyone for abstaining. The choices were genocide or genocide+. Trump at least went to meet with some Mosque leaders in Dearborn Michigan. Kamala couldn't even be bothered to do that. The Democrats demonstrably abandoned us to our faces. Trump at least acted like he was going to care (which anyone could tell you was a lie, but he did make a show of it). My parents, aun...
And you thought a guy who fucked you over in his first term would be better than a Democrat? That is is Copium right there. |
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solidheron
sh.itjust.works
solidheron@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-12-29 |
what do you mean how it factors in?
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thethrilloftime69
feddit.online
thethrilloftime69@feddit.online Joined: 2026-02-12 |
Don’t blame us, the Democrats abandoned us to our faces. And you thought a guy who fucked you over in his first term would be better than a Democrat? That is is Copium right there.
I'm saying there were no good choices. So I don't know why I'm responsible for the Democrats failure to be even decent. |
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ProfThadBach
lemmy.world
ProfThadBach@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-06-20 |
I'm saying there were no good choices. So I don't know why I'm responsible for the Democrats failure to be even decent.
When faced with two bad choices at least choose the one that will do the least harm. While you are correct Democrat establishment failed here you can not rationalize any marginalized community justifying either voting for Trump or abstaining from voting based on Trump's past actions or his links to fascist ideology found in documents like Project 2025. |
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thethrilloftime69
feddit.online
thethrilloftime69@feddit.online Joined: 2026-02-12 |
When faced with two bad choices at least choose the one that will do the least harm. While you are correct Democrat establishment failed here you can not rationalize any marginalized community justifying either voting for Trump or abstaining from voting based on Trump's past actions or his links to fascist ideology found in documents like Project 2025.
If you ask the rest of the world, the US has been a fascist country for most of the post war era. I also think the US hegemonic system produced this result. I think whatever Trump was going to do was inevitable because look at their opposition. The most milquetoast resistance imaginable. So people blaming minorities for not voting against Trump can suck my nuts. This was an inevitable consequence of the system America created. Y'all are mad that the US just took it's mask off. I'm sick of Americans blaming everyone but themselves for the shit they put the world through. |
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GreenKnight23
lemmy.world
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-09-21 |
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/factor-in
I know what it means. I'm asking how it factors in |
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solidheron
sh.itjust.works
solidheron@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-12-29 |
I know what it means. I'm asking how it factors in
What's "it"? |
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Jankatarch
lemmy.world
Jankatarch@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-12 |
Ah, you aren't counting immigrants who have gone on to become citizens. A person can be both an immigrant and a citizen.
That's still included in 0.88% |
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Grainne
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-10-04 |
If you ask the rest of the world, the US has been a fascist country for most of the post war era. I also think the US hegemonic system produced this result. I think whatever Trump was going to do was inevitable because look at their opposition. The most milquetoast resistance imaginable. So people blaming minorities for not voting against Trump can suck my nuts. This was an inevitable consequen...
100% fascist, even before the world wars they were utterly terrible. The only difference I've ever seen between the two parties is one does better P.R., both actively make the world a worse place. |
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Soulg
ani.social
Soulg@ani.social Joined: 2025-02-14 |
Normally I'm one to say we should be understanding and all that, but I honestly can't understand Arabic people voting for anyone they thought had a chance to murder their relatives back home. Edit: I was wrong, I thought they had voted for trump or Harris but they actually voted third party or withheld their vote. I think thats morally consistent and we shouldnt blame them for anything trump ha...
I'm sorry but I still blame them along with the dems. It is unimaginably tragic that Harris couldn't just say Gaza bad we will stop it, but Trump was still worse on Gaza among the litany of other reasons why he was a terrible person to vote for. If there was ever an election to truly vote against the greater evil, it was this one, and now the entire world is paying the price for it. |
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Maeve
kbin.earth
Maeve@kbin.earthJoined: 2024-06-16 |
Did I get jill stien?
About as much as we got De La Cruz. |
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Tag Your Toe
mastodon.social
TagYourToe@mastodon.social Joined: 2024-07-24 |
This is incredibly disingenuous. The community in question didn't support Donald Trump, and overwhelmingly voted 3rd party because Kamala Harris supported Israel's genocide in Gaza. Not only washing over that fact but blaming Trump's second term on them is fucking atrocious reporting.
@SippyCup "and overwhelmingly voted 3rd party because Kamala Harris supported Israel’s genocide in Gaza."But she didn't support anything of the sort and that was a bullshit fig leaf that was retroactively applied to their real reason for not voting for Harris, which is that they hate women and queer people and Harris was a big advocate for both. |
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procrastitron
lemmy.world
procrastitron@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
The article doesn’t provide any evidence that these people supported Trump and the only link it uses to back up that claim is another article that just says their city didn’t support Harris as much as previous Democratic candidates. |
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Echolynx
lemmy.zip
Echolynx@lemmy.zip Joined: 2024-11-19 |
The article doesn’t provide any evidence that these people supported Trump and the only link it uses to back up that claim is another article that just says their city didn’t support Harris as much as previous Democratic candidates.
He won by a historically significant margin in the community. |
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