I rather have a smaller camera bump and a worse camera. But it’s nice there’s a choice for people who don’t agree.

I don't like so big camera bump but at least someone is trying, unlike Samsung who doesn't even update their lenses

Still only a 1/1.12-inch sensor, which is smaller than the current x8 ultra.

Honestly I'd prefer they just made it a little thicker and stuck a Sony rx100 style collapsible zoom on it.

Competition is always nice

Assuming this is sold in the Mainland, the majority there love to flaunt their wealth using iPhones and MacBooks, but having an Oppo with a jacked up camera is another second best way to show off, especially if they're not into Apple anymore for geopolitical reasons.

I just wish they were not that big

I believe it will be available in Europe too

The periscope telephoto arms race peaked a while ago and now everyone is just iterating on the same idea. Oppo's Find X7 Ultra shipped dual periscope lenses and the photos look great in controlled demo conditions, but real-world low-light performance still lags behind what a Pixel or a proper camera produces. The smartphone race ended for most users the day phones became good enough, and now it's just厂商 trying to justify + price tags with spec sheets nobody asked for.

I think that some Oppo's have removable batteries, and I know EU law comes into effect in 2027 where all phones sold in the region, have to have removable batteries, also the batteries have to be accessible for years after the product leaves the market.

I don't think the X9 has a removable battery, and while it is easy to remove, you couldn't just swap it out for another, which is a pity, even though it has a large capacity.

Which is crazy, because if they want their phones to be professional photographers everyday camera, then they should act like photographers cameras.

As for SD cards, you can buy USB sticks that you can plug into your phone and transfer the photos that way, Or the same type of sticks with card readers.

Not the best options, but seemingly the only options for now.

Or an alternative option is Immich. Self host it and supply your own storage. But still requires network access to transfer, so if you're somewhere remote, not a great option.

Why not just buy a nice camera at that point?

Can't doom scroll on a camera

They make these little storage blocks you can attach to your phone as well

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1855878-REG/lexar_lsl400s001t_rnbnu_1tb_professional_go_usb.html

And I don't think every phone is required to have a removable battery, if they can prove it doesn't drop below 80% capacity over so many years or whatever. I think that takes Apple out of the requirement for example

Or - and hear me out here - just making the case bigger and leaving room for things like a removable battery, a 3.5mm jack, etc is perfectly fine, as maybe a large razor blade is not the perfect form of the smartphone. Its a couple of mm.

Maybe not on your sd card, I don't think that's universal anymore though. There's a whole lotta doom out there and in your focal lenght if you know where to look.

The original Motorola Defy had it right when released, micro sc slot, decent camera for the time, rugged case you could literally unscrew with an allen wrench to fix the phone, removable battery, a size that actually fit in your pocket, sub $300 price iirc, and it was ip67 rated.

Don't tell me we CAN'T make that phone, Motorola did it in a cave in the 2010s with a bunch of scraps!

I outright refuse to buy a phone without a headphone jack, removable storage, and ip rating. My current phone is an Xperia 5v and I am gonna hold onto that until I am forced out of it by destruction or loss I guess.

Finding a phone anymore that actually fits in my pocket is a real challenge. I had a Motorola defy, Sony Xperia acro s, and an Xperia z5 compact and they were all just about right. My current Xperia 5v is honestly a little bigger than I like but it was the smallest option that had a good camera, removable storage, ip rating, and a headphone jack.

Because the best camera is the one you have on you

Not an iphone fan but it's all that work will buy me. Just got a 17 pro max and I'm amazed with the camera. I think finally I no longer need to bring my full frame when hiking anymore. It's simply not worth the 2kg when my phone can pretty much do the same thing (except telephoto)

I'm with you on this one (and that is exactly what I did lol).

I want to divorce everything I can from my phone (might get a DAP too), I can't run GrapheneOS on that and phone security is more important to me than phone camera, my camera can be connected to Wifi and bluetooth but more importantly can not be if I want (while by nature the phone needs at least CDMA to "phone," and it's more realistic to never enable wireless on a Fujifilm than on a phone). Also fwiw there's something that just feels different about shooting on a mirrorless/DSLR than a phone, I don't think I can physically describe it though.

I will say this camera is probably fantastic and seems to have interchangeable lenses, but for my use case I'd still have to have my phone-phone and then my camera-phone so it'd still be two devices. I could see why it would be a preferred choice for some people though. Also if I'm carrying the phone+lenses, I'd still have to have a camera bag, and my camera fits in my camera bag already. Sure I'd be able to fit more in there too but idk it's not like I could be sans bags.

Because this is one device that fits easily in a pocket or purse. Most people want to have a nice camera on hand without having to lug around another big device.

As someone who bought a nice (19mp) camera because the iPhone and android they already have(48,50mp) have shit cameras....

I'm sending this from a trip where I only remembered one device.

Boy it'd be nice to always have a not shit camera.