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ell1e
leminal.space
ell1e@leminal.spaceJoined: 2025-07-16 |
Locating bugs is one of the most important tasks in programming, and if devs can't do that, not are willing to learn to do so, they are fucked. There's no other way of saying it. Can't wait for the AI bubble to pop.
LLMs can sometimes point out potential trouble spots, which is also one of the uses that may avoid injecting problematic code (if the LLM is prevented from suggesting a fix). But sadly, that doesn't seem the type of use KDE is currently limiting themselves to. |
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Solrac
lemmy.world
Solrac@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Why the hate in AI that much? I totally get it the impact in environment when building dc but the latest CVE exploit was discovered with AI assistance.
But yes, tell me about Gemini versus GPT 6 vs Claude. |
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schnurrito
discuss.tchncs.de
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2023-06-24 |
in this particular context; Someone, typically an investor, who is convinced that their "tech" of choice (AI) is the future, despite the well documented cost and not-so-long-concerns of pursuing said "tech" (ie Winning the "AI Race" whatever that is), to the determent of well being of the environment and/or humanity.
OK, if it is intended mainly as a description of investors and other "business" enthusiasts, then I agree with fighting against what they want. |
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Solrac
lemmy.world
Solrac@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
OK, if it is intended mainly as a description of investors and other "business" enthusiasts, then I agree with fighting against what they want.
Investor Enthusiast, but yes... Also, Companies aren't people, their CEO and Board of Directors are. And those would also qualify. |
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Mwa
thelemmy.club
Mwa@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2024-06-27 |
Water Cost. Nuff Said. How would you like some freshly made sewage? Disrupts Communities (try visiting and staying for an hour) Releases Toxic Gas that WILL KILL said communities over not-so-long period of time. Has already consumed more energy in a couple of months, than entire cities do in the span of a YEAR. Is the only thing keeping US Economy alive at this moment, and not really much of an...
GPT-6 is a thing now? |
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Mwa
thelemmy.club
Mwa@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2024-06-27 |
KDE's mascot is such a cute design
i like software mascots in general. |
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Mwa
thelemmy.club
Mwa@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2024-06-27 |
There are appropriate and legitimate use cases for AI, especially when locally hosted. Tech/programming is one of the few. The problem is when its shoved in everyones face for everything and all the data goes to tech conglomerates
agreed, or even using something like Adobe Firefly.(it only trains on Public domain images) |
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grrgyle
slrpnk.net
grrgyle@slrpnk.netJoined: 2024-03-18 |
Genuinely thought that was what the post was about. Someone oughtta make one of those Ks backward
Nah it's valid, but should issue a statement telling racists to fuck off just in case they thought this was a wink to them |
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grrgyle
slrpnk.net
grrgyle@slrpnk.netJoined: 2024-03-18 |
What is this, Canada? We measure things by football field around here dagnabbit
Yes, they are literally commenting from a Canadian server |
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grrgyle
slrpnk.net
grrgyle@slrpnk.netJoined: 2024-03-18 |
agreed, or even using something like Adobe Firefly.(it only trains on Public domain images)
O rly? Hm |
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Johnmannesca
lemmy.world
Johnmannesca@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-26 |
in this particular context; Someone, typically an investor, who is convinced that their "tech" of choice (AI) is the future, despite the well documented cost and not-so-long-concerns of pursuing said "tech" (ie Winning the "AI Race" whatever that is), to the determent of well being of the environment and/or humanity.
Investor? The word you're looking for is grifter |
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Mwa
thelemmy.club
Mwa@thelemmy.clubJoined: 2024-06-27 |
O rly? Hm
atleast it claims its "Ethical" by only training on public domain images. |
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Nyadia
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2025-03-27 |
Why the hate in AI that much? I totally get it the impact in environment when building dc but the latest CVE exploit was discovered with AI assistance.
Why do AI bros get so defensive when any single aspect of AI or its implementation is criticized, as though criticism of noise polluting, resource leeching, hardware hoarding datacenters owned by tech oligarchs whose only prerogative is making the most money possible and obtaining the largest amount of power over people they possibly can is necessarily a statement that AI should never exist or be used in any capacity for any reason ever? |
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Bazoogle
lemmy.world
Bazoogle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-24 |
Locating bugs is one of the most important tasks in programming, and if devs can't do that, not are willing to learn to do so, they are fucked. There's no other way of saying it. Can't wait for the AI bubble to pop.
You are using current AI as your baseline. There will come a point where writing code will mean there being zero bugs or vulnerabilities. Humans cannot do that. AI will, whether we want it or not, one day be able to. Idk if we are talk 10 years or 40 years, but it will happen. |
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msage
programming.dev
msage@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
You are using current AI as your baseline. There will come a point where writing code will mean there being zero bugs or vulnerabilities. Humans cannot do that. AI will, whether we want it or not, one day be able to. Idk if we are talk 10 years or 40 years, but it will happen.
LOL at that. LLMs need to disappear before that happens. In order to not have any bugs, and for anything to produce perfect software, you need to define perfect business rules, and if managers could do that, they wouldn't have needed developers for decades. If we have AI that can produce the perfect code, you won't have access to it. Why giving everyone something so powerful when now you can circle around everyone easily? |
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Bazoogle
lemmy.world
Bazoogle@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-24 |
LOL at that. LLMs need to disappear before that happens. In order to not have any bugs, and for anything to produce perfect software, you need to define perfect business rules, and if managers could do that, they wouldn't have needed developers for decades. If we have AI that can produce the perfect code, you won't have access to it. Why giving everyone something so powerful when now you can ci...
If one company can make it, then other will make it too. Someone will be the first, but others will follow behind. It is too critical for each countries national security to not research it themselves, let alone the profit the companies can make. It will definitely be longer before someone like me will get access, and even longer before it is cost effective, but it will eventually happen.
I should have been clearer. I meant exploitable vulnerabilities in the software. "Bugs" and "features" can have an overlap, but that's not what I meant. The only attack surface left would be the human one, which would still be a massive vulnerability like it currently is. |
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msage
programming.dev
msage@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-12 |
If we have AI that can produce the perfect code, you won’t have access to it. If one company can make it, then other will make it too. Someone will be the first, but others will follow behind. It is too critical for each countries national security to not research it themselves, let alone the profit the companies can make. It will definitely be longer before someone like me will get access, and...
That's not how anything works. You are assuming a god-like coder entity which can consider everything, and that's a whole new problem which we can't solve right now. And if it's a national security, it won't be shared with others, so if one country stumbles upon it, others won't know how. |
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iuminou
lemmy.dbzer0.com
thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2025-09-12 |
based kde |
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