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ell1e leminal.space ell1e@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-07-16
#52 · (edited) Quote Reply

Locating bugs is one of the most important tasks in programming, and if devs can't do that, not are willing to learn to do so, they are fucked. There's no other way of saying it. Can't wait for the AI bubble to pop.

LLMs can sometimes point out potential trouble spots, which is also one of the uses that may avoid injecting problematic code (if the LLM is prevented from suggesting a fix). But sadly, that doesn't seem the type of use KDE is currently limiting themselves to.

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Solrac lemmy.world Solrac@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#53 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why the hate in AI that much? I totally get it the impact in environment when building dc but the latest CVE exploit was discovered with AI assistance.
  • Water Cost. Nuff Said. How would you like some freshly made sewage?
  • Disrupts Communities (try visiting and staying for an hour)
  • Releases Toxic Gas that WILL KILL said communities over not-so-long period of time.
  • Has already consumed more energy in a couple of months, than entire cities do in the span of a YEAR.
  • Is the only thing keeping US Economy alive at this moment, and not really much of an "Economy".
  • Has greatly contributed to the Human Disconnect. Which has lead to people isolating and only talking with their AI Companions, some of which have directed them to off themselves. And some still use it over seeking professional help.
  • Is being used domestically and by US "Allies" to do mass surveillance, even gets innocent people tagged for arrest, which is the US and "Allies" Police's favorite sport.
  • Continuing previous point; and in many more cases, it's used to run autonomous weapons that ARE CURRENTLY KILLING innocent people in Gaza and now Lebanon, and they also being used against Iran.
  • Creates mediocre solutions most of the time. Sometimes the solution is actually decent.
  • Has single-handedly caused the PC Market to come to a grinding halt.
  • Has caused companies to basically replace human workers, with hallucination machines that again, do all of the above.
  • Can you browse US Social media without running into AI?

But yes, tell me about Gemini versus GPT 6 vs Claude.

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schnurrito discuss.tchncs.de schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-24
#54 · Quote Reply

in this particular context; Someone, typically an investor, who is convinced that their "tech" of choice (AI) is the future, despite the well documented cost and not-so-long-concerns of pursuing said "tech" (ie Winning the "AI Race" whatever that is), to the determent of well being of the environment and/or humanity.

OK, if it is intended mainly as a description of investors and other "business" enthusiasts, then I agree with fighting against what they want.

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Solrac lemmy.world Solrac@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#55 · Quote Reply

OK, if it is intended mainly as a description of investors and other "business" enthusiasts, then I agree with fighting against what they want.

Investor Enthusiast, but yes... Also, Companies aren't people, their CEO and Board of Directors are. And those would also qualify.

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-06-27
#56 · (edited) Quote Reply

Water Cost. Nuff Said. How would you like some freshly made sewage? Disrupts Communities (try visiting and staying for an hour) Releases Toxic Gas that WILL KILL said communities over not-so-long period of time. Has already consumed more energy in a couple of months, than entire cities do in the span of a YEAR. Is the only thing keeping US Economy alive at this moment, and not really much of an...

GPT-6 is a thing now?
and also i think self hosting solves most/half of this, also dont forget, Copyright violation.

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-06-27
#57 · Quote Reply

KDE's mascot is such a cute design

i like software mascots in general.

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-06-27
#58 · (edited) Quote Reply

There are appropriate and legitimate use cases for AI, especially when locally hosted. Tech/programming is one of the few. The problem is when its shoved in everyones face for everything and all the data goes to tech conglomerates

agreed, or even using something like Adobe Firefly.(it only trains on Public domain images)

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grrgyle slrpnk.net grrgyle@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-03-18
#59 · Quote Reply

Genuinely thought that was what the post was about. Someone oughtta make one of those Ks backward

Nah it's valid, but should issue a statement telling racists to fuck off just in case they thought this was a wink to them

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grrgyle slrpnk.net grrgyle@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-03-18
#60 · Quote Reply

What is this, Canada? We measure things by football field around here dagnabbit

Yes, they are literally commenting from a Canadian server

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grrgyle slrpnk.net grrgyle@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2024-03-18
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

agreed, or even using something like Adobe Firefly.(it only trains on Public domain images)

O rly? Hm

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Johnmannesca lemmy.world Johnmannesca@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#62 · Quote Reply

in this particular context; Someone, typically an investor, who is convinced that their "tech" of choice (AI) is the future, despite the well documented cost and not-so-long-concerns of pursuing said "tech" (ie Winning the "AI Race" whatever that is), to the determent of well being of the environment and/or humanity.

Investor? The word you're looking for is grifter

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-06-27
#63 · Quote Reply

O rly? Hm

atleast it claims its "Ethical" by only training on public domain images.

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Nyadia lemmy.blahaj.zone Nyadia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-03-27
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why the hate in AI that much? I totally get it the impact in environment when building dc but the latest CVE exploit was discovered with AI assistance.

Why do AI bros get so defensive when any single aspect of AI or its implementation is criticized, as though criticism of noise polluting, resource leeching, hardware hoarding datacenters owned by tech oligarchs whose only prerogative is making the most money possible and obtaining the largest amount of power over people they possibly can is necessarily a statement that AI should never exist or be used in any capacity for any reason ever?

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Bazoogle lemmy.world Bazoogle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-24
#65 · Quote Reply

Locating bugs is one of the most important tasks in programming, and if devs can't do that, not are willing to learn to do so, they are fucked. There's no other way of saying it. Can't wait for the AI bubble to pop.

You are using current AI as your baseline. There will come a point where writing code will mean there being zero bugs or vulnerabilities. Humans cannot do that. AI will, whether we want it or not, one day be able to. Idk if we are talk 10 years or 40 years, but it will happen.

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msage programming.dev msage@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#66 · Quote Reply

You are using current AI as your baseline. There will come a point where writing code will mean there being zero bugs or vulnerabilities. Humans cannot do that. AI will, whether we want it or not, one day be able to. Idk if we are talk 10 years or 40 years, but it will happen.

LOL at that.

LLMs need to disappear before that happens.

In order to not have any bugs, and for anything to produce perfect software, you need to define perfect business rules, and if managers could do that, they wouldn't have needed developers for decades.

If we have AI that can produce the perfect code, you won't have access to it. Why giving everyone something so powerful when now you can circle around everyone easily?

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Bazoogle lemmy.world Bazoogle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-24
#67 · Quote Reply

LOL at that. LLMs need to disappear before that happens. In order to not have any bugs, and for anything to produce perfect software, you need to define perfect business rules, and if managers could do that, they wouldn't have needed developers for decades. If we have AI that can produce the perfect code, you won't have access to it. Why giving everyone something so powerful when now you can ci...

If we have AI that can produce the perfect code, you won’t have access to it.

If one company can make it, then other will make it too. Someone will be the first, but others will follow behind. It is too critical for each countries national security to not research it themselves, let alone the profit the companies can make. It will definitely be longer before someone like me will get access, and even longer before it is cost effective, but it will eventually happen.

In order to not have any bugs

I should have been clearer. I meant exploitable vulnerabilities in the software. "Bugs" and "features" can have an overlap, but that's not what I meant. The only attack surface left would be the human one, which would still be a massive vulnerability like it currently is.

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msage programming.dev msage@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#68 · Quote Reply

If we have AI that can produce the perfect code, you won’t have access to it. If one company can make it, then other will make it too. Someone will be the first, but others will follow behind. It is too critical for each countries national security to not research it themselves, let alone the profit the companies can make. It will definitely be longer before someone like me will get access, and...

That's not how anything works.

You are assuming a god-like coder entity which can consider everything, and that's a whole new problem which we can't solve right now.

And if it's a national security, it won't be shared with others, so if one country stumbles upon it, others won't know how.

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-12
#69 · Quote Reply

based kde

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