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[Article] Why AI Is Hated: A cultural phenomenon based on personal opinion
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#52 · (edited) Quote Reply

I think you essay writing needs some work but that's just a matter of training/practice.

Generally I think corporate Ai has plenty to answer for but as you said those are issues of Capitalism and the perverse incentives it provides. This is why we have the dead internet theory. People don't spam out slop because they like it, they do it because they're trying to survive or become rich.

I hate how this has poisoned the whole technology that even those who try to use genai for the few ethical purposes it has gets lumped in with the spammers and the billionaires. For example I made a YouTube thumbnail for my obscure content I spent days building the other day and I got hate for it because I didn't make shitty personal art for the thumbnail instead. Motherfuckers, I don't like drawing art and this use literally harms nobody! People are just completely irrational about it.

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#53 · Quote Reply

Don't be assholes. This doesn't read like anything like Genai essay. In fact I'd argue it looks very human, flawed and all. Not everyone is skilled at writing essays, and making compelling arguments but they still deserve to make them.

oh
("Don't be assholes." did you clock me as plural??)
btw, i'm currently writing a response, concurrently, to this essay-termed-article.
as you might've psychically gleaned, i have many mental conditions. i find this painful to read. this is a physical phenomenon, one can't just deny it in the name of being nice. now, how do i state that the way this is written causes me physical pain, without sounding like a group of assholes?
and, they don't actually have a point? this ragebait-termed-article is mostly just hating AI haters, and diagnosing them with ODD. aside from that, there's nothing consistent. more in my eventual response.

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db0 Moderator db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#54 · (edited) Quote Reply

oh ("Don't be assholes." did you clock me as plural??) btw, i'm currently writing a response, concurrently, to this essay-termed-article. as you might've psychically gleaned, i have many mental conditions. i find this painful to read. this is a physical phenomenon, one can't just deny it in the name of being nice. now, how do i state that the way this is written causes me physical pain, without...

did you clock me as plural

Take a look at the rest of the thread for deleted comments to give you an idea what's going on, yours was the least aggro in fact

as you might've psychically gleaned, i have many mental conditions.

Not at all. How could I possibly glean that?

i find this painful to read. this is a physical phenomenon

Even if that's true, nobody can know you have such an obscure condition without you explicitly mentioning in advance. To everyone else it just sounds like exaggerated criticism.

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#55 · Quote Reply

I think you essay writing needs some work but that's just a matter of training/practice. Generally I think corporate Ai has plenty to answer for but as you said those are issues of Capitalism and the perverse incentives it provides. This is why we have the dead internet theory. People don't spam out slop because they like it, they do it because they're trying to survive or become rich. I hate h...

"Motherfuckers, I don’t like drawing art ..]
but that's just a matter of training! :3c
[.. and this use literally harms nobody!"
ragebait or intellectual deficiency? oh, i forgot we aren't on reddit..
if you think there is no harm in that use-case, you haven't been listening. at the point that an AI is created, harm has already been done. ai requires data. lots and lots of data. thus, you need reckless scraping to gather it. and it requires training. lots and lots of training! that requires large datacenters to do.

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#56 · Quote Reply

I reckon this argument would be a whole lot more convincing if you could go more in-depth into FOSS genAI. Most of the genAI use cases I see around the internet are centered on corporate AI and spreading more awareness on how to move away from corporations (while also reducing environmental harm) would go a long way. That's beside my personal dislike for AI generated content, which, as you said...

people need to be clear, this is what FOSS genAI is: https://opensource.org/ai

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#57 · Quote Reply

Great feedback. I edited the second section to add some info about FOSS AI. How it uses less energy and is also user configurable. Most FOSS AI models I know of doesn't take into account consent or crediting. I don't see why one couldn't though. Should they have to? No, but I can see why it would be nice to at least credit the people who contributed with their art, at least if they're known.

what are the FOSS AI models you know of?

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db0 Moderator db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#58 · Quote Reply

"Motherfuckers, I don’t like drawing art ..] but that's just a matter of training! :3c [.. and this use literally harms nobody!" ragebait or intellectual deficiency? oh, i forgot we aren't on reddit.. if you think there is no harm in that use-case, you haven't been listening. at the point that an AI is created, harm has already been done. ai requires data. lots and lots of data. thus, you need ...

"Motherfuckers, I don’t like drawing art ..] but that's just a matter of training! :3c

FYI, you can quote in markdown by prepending a line with >. Then it will be properly formatted and you can reply below. Now onto the replies

but that's just a matter of training! :3c

I didn't say I don't like it because I'm bad at it. I just don't like it. Like I don't like gardening, cooking and any other amount of creative processes.

ragebait or intellectual deficiency?

Fuck you and the horse you rode on mate. What makes you think you can just call people "intellectually deficient" because they don't agree with you? And then you have the gall to be offended by me asking you not to talk like an asshole?

ai requires data. lots and lots of data. thus, you need reckless scraping to gather it. and it requires training. lots and lots of training! that requires large datacenters to do.

I didn't do it. I didn't order it. I didn't reward it. That harm was already done. Like a lot of the harm in society done by the personal electronics you use, the cars you ride, the food you eat and so on. Me using those things in a way that doesn't sustain the system which built them, is very much not doing harm.

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#59 · Quote Reply

did you clock me as plural Take a look at the rest of the thread for deleted comments to give you an idea what's going on, yours was the least aggro in fact as you might've psychically gleaned, i have many mental conditions. Not at all. How could I possibly glean that? i find this painful to read. this is a physical phenomenon Even if that's true, nobody can know you have such an obscure condit...

here's the obscure condition: ADHD! oh, and i also have all the comorbidities! it's not rare

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db0 Moderator db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#60 · Quote Reply

here's the obscure condition: ADHD! oh, and i also have all the comorbidities! it's not rare

ADHD doesn't cause physical pain by reading badly written essays.

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#61 · Quote Reply

"Motherfuckers, I don’t like drawing art ..] but that's just a matter of training! :3c FYI, you can quote in markdown by prepending a line with >. Then it will be properly formatted and you can reply below. Now onto the replies but that's just a matter of training! :3c I didn't say I don't like it because I'm bad at it. I just don't like it. Like I don't like gardening, cooking and any other...

FYI, you can quote in markdown by prepending a line with >.

i don't like markdown. i have been informed by e-glares that this is a hot take, but: xml is better. xhtml?

...just call people "intellectually deficient" because they don't agree with you?

there are other reasons

And then you have the gall to be offended by me asking you not to talk like an asshole?

did i do that? did you think i did that?

That harm was already done.

you're still normalizing the usage of ai

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#62 · Quote Reply

ADHD doesn't cause physical pain by reading badly written essays.

sez you!

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db0 Moderator db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

FYI, you can quote in markdown by prepending a line with >. i don't like markdown. i have been informed by e-glares that this is a hot take, but: xml is better. xhtml? ...just call people "intellectually deficient" because they don't agree with you? there are other reasons And then you have the gall to be offended by me asking you not to talk like an asshole? did i do that? did you think i d...

Not going to play games, mate. Waste someone else's time.

you're still normalizing the usage of ai

There's nothing wrong with using GenAI ethically.

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#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

did you clock me as plural Take a look at the rest of the thread for deleted comments to give you an idea what's going on, yours was the least aggro in fact as you might've psychically gleaned, i have many mental conditions. Not at all. How could I possibly glean that? i find this painful to read. this is a physical phenomenon Even if that's true, nobody can know you have such an obscure condit...
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#65 · Quote Reply

Translation: "I hate AI, I think it's stupid and my opinion is the objective truth! You said things that made me uncomfortable and I hate you. I'm just going to call you names because I have nothing else to say!" Why are you even on dbzer0 if you feel this way? You know this instance stands for everything you hate and are so deeply against. FYI @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is very Pro-AI and doesn't h...

what? that translation is inaccurate

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#66 · Quote Reply

Literally have no idea why they're here when they clearly hate half of our users and our rules.
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#67 · Quote Reply

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nvm

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#68 · Quote Reply

what? that translation is inaccurate

Disengage

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db0 Moderator db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#69 · Quote Reply

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Learn how lemmy works. I didn't remove shit. But if it did fall on me, I'd remove your low effort shite as well

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#70 · Quote Reply

Not going to play games, mate. Waste someone else's time. you're still normalizing the usage of ai There's nothing wrong with using GenAI ethically.

what??? how, how in the world did you think that was what i did??? plz clarify, are you being allistic, or a troll?

you're still normalizing the usage of ai

There's nothing wrong with using GenAI ethically.

begging the question?

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#71 · Quote Reply

Learn how lemmy works. I didn't remove shit. But if it did fall on me, I'd remove your low effort shite as well

but.. but you're the moderator??

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#72 · Quote Reply

Learn how lemmy works. I didn't remove shit. But if it did fall on me, I'd remove your low effort shite as well

well who did remove it, if it wasn't you??

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Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir] lemmy.dbzer0.com MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#73 · Quote Reply

I think you essay writing needs some work but that's just a matter of training/practice. Generally I think corporate Ai has plenty to answer for but as you said those are issues of Capitalism and the perverse incentives it provides. This is why we have the dead internet theory. People don't spam out slop because they like it, they do it because they're trying to survive or become rich. I hate h...

Yeah, it sucks how much the subject of AI has become so emotionally charged and people just can't be normal. Thankfully it seems largely limited to online discourse, since people rarely act this terribly in real life when discussing AI.

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Mystic Mushroom [Ze/Zir] lemmy.dbzer0.com MysticMushroom1776@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

ADHD doesn't cause physical pain by reading badly written essays.

As someone with ADHD I can confirm, it doesn't "hurt" to read text that isn't well written. Actually my ADHD might be partly to blame for why I'm not as good at writing as most people.

Though I suspect a lot of the people complaining so hard about writting style and accusing me of using AI are more mad about the content of this essay and would be just as pissed off if it was written by a better writer.

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#75 · Quote Reply

Yeah, it sucks how much the subject of AI has become so emotionally charged and people just can't be normal. Thankfully it seems largely limited to online discourse, since people rarely act this terribly in real life when discussing AI.

denying stuff by deeming it "political"? you are blaming the tree and not the saw

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#76 · Quote Reply

Oh my god so much text for so little meaning. I reab obtuse technical bullshit for fun and there's no way I'm going to read your avalanche of slop hiding behind tribalism. There are facts. There is math. We had that math before my parents were born, and I am not young. We have more of it now. The math just means it will never be good for anything, that I should give up trying to find any utilit...

bravo! well, i'm not humanity (robot i guess) and i agree with you! i guess that alone does not mend your faith in humanity because i am not a human

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#77 · Quote Reply

I proofread it before posting to ensure it would have minimal errors and made as much sense as I could make it. Also look at that, you did the "you used AI to write this" thing like I said. Because bad faith accusations, insults, and also abusive behavior is the only thing people in the FuckAI crowd really can do when challenged.

calling it "bad faith"? what are you talking about?

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#78 · (edited) Quote Reply

denying stuff by deeming it "political"? you are blaming the tree and not the saw

The fact you came to a 3 month old thread to bitch and complain just proves my point. This is not normal behavior. Especially after you were already told to disengage (instance rule).

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#79 · (edited) Quote Reply

The fact you came to a 3 month old thread to bitch and complain just proves my point. This is not normal behavior. Especially after you were already told to disengage (instance rule).

edit: ack, nevermind, disengage as well

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