I do because contiuing to enjoy something that wasn't problematic by itself doesn't suddenly continue supporting the artist by re-reading/re-watching/re-listening to the copy you already own, nor does destroying it take what you already paid back.

You can also pirate it. 🤷‍♂️

yup. I ususally do not hunt down the hisories on anything in particular I watch. often times I don't even know who all was involved in the creation. if they are especially heinous I might avoid any of my money supporting the work but that is about it.

It depends on what the art is, and what the artist has done. I've done both sides of this issue and will probably keep doing so.

Not while they're alive. If they're long gone, we can talk about it.

You can’t really. For instance Warren Ellis’s (comics version) work is suffused with his self-image as a cantankerous libertine rebel who will speak truth to power but who is fatally blind to his own abuses of power, so it makes reading it pretty ick now given he has apparently no interest in addressing that.

It's hard as fuck these days.

Minecraft and Notch?

Young Kanye vs Nazi Ye?

American Gods and Neil Gaiman?

Harry Potter and TERF Queen?

The hard part is defining the lines.

Is Louie CK as bad as Cosby?

People apologizing for PewDiePie's Nazi shit when he was a kid?

I fucking just heard that Andy Weir has some problematic views.

Depends.

Is the artist dead? Then sure.

Will they benefit in any way from my support of their work?

Then no.

Did I pay for it before I found out that they were X, Y, or Z?

Then enjoy it, or don't, just don't give them more money.

Yeah, I've got most of Gaiman's books. I still think his collab with Pratchet was brilliant. But he'll never get another cent from me. Roman Polanski? I pirate his shit, he and his estate will never see my money.

This might be a controversial take, but yes. In the creative world it's a conversation but there are a multitude of other domains where no one seems to care. IBM made proto-computers for the nazis to keep track of concentration camp prisoners. Volkswagen was created by Hitler. Continuing the nazi theme there are a lot of medical technologies that were made possible by (often) lethal experimentation on prisoners. Just about every publicly traded company is evil to some degree.

When it comes to the creative world we care for some reason. If it bothers you buy the media second hand. The creator gets $0 if you do. Sure it technically supports the secondary market which effects the new purchases because it makes reselling a viable option, but if you're tracking things that far removed from you there is pretty much nothing you can ethically buy. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

Mixed feelings. I don't like supporting horrible people but at the same time I simply cannot background check every artist/actor.

Not while they're alive certainly, and maybe not ever.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

That phrase needs to stop being used as it prevents the individual from thinking critically about their choices.

Are we really going to assume that buying from farmer’s markets is the same as buying Walmart.

Or that pro trans anarchist Servo is the same as fascist Ladybird.

The pewdiepie thing was just a edgy gag, unless you're talking about something other then the clip that made the rounds on MSM.

It has become somewhat of a thought terminating cliche I will agree. In the context of my comment though I think it's appropriate. If the people we purchase things from must be morally pure and politically aligned with the buyer's viewpoint, the majority of products available for purchase in the US fail that test. Even "good" businesses that pass the test still must rely on an exploitative and unethical supply chain for their materials and distribution.

Regarding the farmers market though, yeah kinda. If we shouldn't buy goods from Walmart because they are owned by fascists and exploit their workers, why is it okay to buy produce from MAGA farmers using criminally underpaid undocumented migrant labor? The short answer is it's not. The only difference is scale.

I'm somewhat of a hardliner on ethics and morals. In my opinion something becomes unethical and morally wrong if a single person is exploited. I have no interest in measuring inches and degrees of evil.

why is it okay to buy produce from MAGA farmers using criminally underpaid undocumented migrant labor?

That’s a strawman as you know not all farmers fit that description.

I have no interest in measuring inches and degrees of evil.

I mean you have to measure the severity of evil to properly apply consequences.

According to the data that came out after the 2024 election 78% of farmers voted for Trump. How is it a strawman if 4 out of 5 farmers are MAGA voters?

He has a strong pattern of spreading Nazi ideas. The first of multiple things is paying people to hold up GAS THE JEWS, they people paid were exploited, and Felix (I think) 'apologizes'