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Truscape lemmy.blahaj.zone Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-20
#102 · Quote Reply

Can't wait to see how the fediverse grows when all these datacenters have to liquidate their stock for dirt cheap

Homelab community will get a lot more activity XD

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Truscape lemmy.blahaj.zone Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-06-20
#103 · Quote Reply

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Well the funny bit is winxp games and software run through wine quite well lol

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SuperNovaStar lemmy.blahaj.zone SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2024-11-12
#104 · Quote Reply

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I'm sure lots of things are "supposed to be" a certain way, but in true American fashion, most of these kinds of laws aren't enforced until the parties end up in court.

You know, the courts that are famously impartial and who never rule along ideological or party lines, are never swayed by whoever has the "better" lawyers, and are never biased against minoities. Oh, and litigation is super cheap too, and so frivolous lawsuits definitely can't be used as financial weapons.

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rbos lemmy.ca rbos@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-08
#105 · Quote Reply

I dont even check if a game will work anymore on Linux, it always does. Last one was Planet Crafter which was a really good game. The entire planet is changing as you terraform it which is very fun to see.

Yeah, it's good. Sort of like a survival cookie clicker.

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bobo lemmy.ml bobo@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-08-15
#106 · Quote Reply

I wouldn't put it past them to try...

As I said, they tried it at the height of their power and failed. I find it far more likely that winblows becomes a Linux distro. It fits their EEE motto a lot better.

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brucethemoose lemmy.world brucethemoose@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-22
#107 · Quote Reply

Good point. My laptop is dualbooting Windows and Linux (Ubuntu 22) and its faster to: start Linux, login, start quemu, start Windows VM in quemu, login in windows in the VM, shutdown windows in the VM gracefully, exit quemu, shutdown Linux gracefully than boot windows natively, login and wait till it is responsive enough to do anything with it.

See, my Windows partition starts instantly. TBH its faster than linux, which takes an extra second to initialize SDDM, and then network connectivity.

...Perhaps because its so neutered. It's not really a fair comparison, as Windows is a narrow-focus OS for me, a tool for running things, to the point I don't trust it for anything security sensitive.

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plz1 sh.itjust.works plz1@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-04-25
#108 · Quote Reply

They must not know about how terrible DX12 games perform with Nvidia cards...

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Jumuta sh.itjust.works Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#109 · Quote Reply

Just a hunch, but it's not performance why peeps are migrating away from windows

the windows file explorer and terminal have horrible performance, it's one of the reasons I'll never switch back

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Jumuta sh.itjust.works Jumuta@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#110 · (edited) Quote Reply

For gaming, Microsoft views steamOS as the benchmark, and is working to optimize the platform so that steamOS and Windows gaming performance are comparable. Within the next year or two, it believes that Windows will be able to truly compete head-to-head with steamOS in gaming performance on identical hardware due to foundational changes that are being made to the platform in the coming months.

i bet the "foundational changes" are all vibecoded

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zalgotext sh.itjust.works zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-13
#111 · (edited) Quote Reply

I always wonder whether that's because it's doing less... like some graphics feature that isn't supported might just no-op in Wine.

It's usually because of all the other bloat running on Windows. Just various background processes on Windows will eat up like 10G of RAM just idling, where most desktop Linux distros I've used will use 2-5G idling. Having a few extra gigs of RAM available can make a noticeable difference.

I feel like system calls in the Linux kernel are just more efficient/faster than system calls in Windows. Windows system calls have decades worth of compatibility layers all cobbled together for business reasons, whereas I don't think the Linux kernel suffers from that same problem.

And that's not even mentioning the multiple layers of absolute voodoo black magic wizardry that is Vulkan (Linux graphics API) and DXVK (a translation later that translates DirectX calls to Vulkan calls). Those are some absolutely incredible pieces of software, and deserve a ton of the credit as well.

I don't really think Linux is faster because it just injects noops sometimes though lol. You'd definitely be able to notice if part of the graphics pipeline was just... skipping enough steps to make a noticeable performance difference lol

Edit: correction

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MrScottyTay sh.itjust.works MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-09
#112 · Quote Reply

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CachyOS or Nobara if you want the option to tinker down the line

Bazzite if you don't want to do any tinkering ever

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DeckPacker piefed.social DeckPacker@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-04-05
#113 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is that Dolphin on Linux or Windows?

They are talking about the file explorer Dolphin, which is available on Linux and Windows.

But it is a core app for the KDE desktop environment, so it is primarily optimized for Linux.

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pipes sh.itjust.works pipes@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-04
#114 · (edited) Quote Reply

Is that Dolphin on Linux or Windows?

It's from KDE so usually Linux

Edit: ..realising there's also Dolphin Emulator and now I'm also confused lol but still feel they're talking about KDE file manager vs Win Explorer

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Siegfried lemmy.world Siegfried@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#115 · (edited) Quote Reply

And it all started with a guy wanting to see sexy android ass on Linux

Are you judging him?

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WhyJiffie sh.itjust.works WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-11
#116 · Quote Reply

How do you imagine they patent a fork of Linux? They already tried patent trolling for over a decade before they gave up... (Look up "Microsoft Novell-Suse patent trolling")

not linux, the steam client

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TwilightKiddy programming.dev TwilightKiddy@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-12
#117 · Quote Reply

My biggest "wow" was when I could hit the super key and have the start menu open immediately instead of waiting 4 minutes for it to load in and another 20 minutes to take my search input and give me back results from Bing.

Hotkeys related thing that got me is the fact that on almost any DE you can configure your own hotkeys the way you want them, you don't have to use the ones Microslop thought are good. Using three languages, layout switching was an absolute pain with what hotkeys Windows has to offer.

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Naz sh.itjust.works Naz@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-18
#118 · Quote Reply

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tiramichu sh.itjust.works tiramichu@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-04
#119 · Quote Reply

And it all started with a guy wanting to see sexy android ass on Linux

So we can also say indirectly that Steam Deck wouldn't have happened without the horniness of Yoko Taro who created that android ass in the first place.

What a chain of causality that is

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greedytacothief lemmy.dbzer0.com greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-02-11
#120 · Quote Reply

I've run out of devices to put Linux on, so maybe I'll create some VMs today

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Wispy2891 lemmy.world Wispy2891@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#121 · Quote Reply

"With things like instant file search!" Omg I can't, what a joke of an OS.

The company views a third party app called File Pilot as benchmark for these [file search] improvements

That app is still in beta and was launched one year ago.

They're comparing the search from the native shell (where they could directly query the NTFS table like Everything does and get instant results), native to their OS with 40 years of experience with some unknown newcomer still in beta???

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krisevol lemmus.org krisevol@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-03-16
#122 · (edited) Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Press the xbox button, under settings, "enable game mode".

It's been a thing for years.

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SkaveRat discuss.tchncs.de SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-09
#123 · Quote Reply

Are you judging him?

yes. I judge it as pretty neat

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Simon_Shitewood lemmy.ml Simon_Shitewood@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-04-19
#124 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Nvidea might be making a big difference there, I'm on AMD and didn't lose any frames, even in AAA games, when I switched from Windows 10 to Bazzite 42. Haven't gained any either, but there's a lot less stutter in menus and faster loading times that still make it feel smoother anyway.

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vinyl lemmy.world vinyl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#125 · Quote Reply

I've run out of devices to put Linux on, so maybe I'll create some VMs today

let's pump those numbers up on steam hardware survey. although they might not count VMs

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webpack ani.social webpack@ani.social
Joined: 2023-07-30
#126 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I feel like half the games I play with native Linux ports actually perform worse compared to using proton and are buggier

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ryper lemmy.ca ryper@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-07
#127 · Quote Reply

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Windows Update will also be improved, with the goal of making Windows 11 reliable enough so that a restart is only necessary once a month.

This isn't just a matter of Windows 11 reliability, it'll take big improvements in Microsoft's quality control to stop needing to follow the monthly updates with emergency patches and hotfixes.

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ryper lemmy.ca ryper@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-07
#128 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Besides the data collection angle, Microsoft wants gamers on Windows instead of Linux so that there's at least a chance they'll buy games from the Microsoft Store.

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Wispy2891 lemmy.world Wispy2891@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#129 · Quote Reply

Windows Update will also be improved, with the goal of making Windows 11 reliable enough so that a restart is only necessary once a month. This isn't just a matter of Windows 11 reliability, it'll take big improvements in Microsoft's quality control to stop needing to follow the monthly updates with emergency patches and hotfixes.

Right now they are:

it's patch Tuesday!!!!!!1!1!!!! We MUST release immediately an update or the users will revolt!!

But Sir, preliminary testing says that it has a 80% bricking chance with full data loss, can we postpone it?

PUSH. IT. NOW. Force the install and make sure to reboot all the computers during the working hours, bonus if you force close all the opened apps without saving

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Dvixen lemmy.world Dvixen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-09
#130 · (edited) Quote Reply

let's pump those numbers up on steam hardware survey. although they might not count VMs

I'm doing my part, switched last week to Linux. A few growing pains getting everything working, but it beats the nightmare that was keeping Win11 stable.

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Trebuchet europe.pub Trebuchet@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-06-04
#131 · Quote Reply

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THANK YOU!!!

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loutr sh.itjust.works loutr@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-11
#132 · Quote Reply

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Valve also needed to break its dependency on Windows, in case MS decides to go down the walled garden route like Apple. MS making the windows store the only supported way to install apps and games would be devastating for Valve.

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-20
#133 · Quote Reply

Press the xbox button, under settings, "enable game mode". It's been a thing for years.

Win + G if you don't have an XBox controller connected to your PC, like I presume most people probably don't.

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rapchee lemmy.world rapchee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-10
#134 · (edited) Quote Reply

get ventoy, start trying

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CucumberFetish lemmy.dbzer0.com CucumberFetish@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-07-08
#135 · Quote Reply

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I need the lore

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BaroqueInMind piefed.social BaroqueInMind@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-04
#136 · Quote Reply

Press the xbox button, under settings, "enable game mode". It's been a thing for years.

Thank you for the reply, and please accept my sincere apologies for sounding so aggressive in my previous reply

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SkaveRat discuss.tchncs.de SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-07-09
#137 · Quote Reply

I need the lore

the first steps of what later would become Proton, were made because Nier Automata didn't run on linux

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UnimportantHuman lemmy.ml UnimportantHuman@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-13
#138 · Quote Reply

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Wait what lol

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GirthBrooksPLO lemmy.world GirthBrooksPLO@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-13
#139 · Quote Reply

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If anything has been a driver of human ingenuity, it's the horny

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httperror418 lemmy.world httperror418@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#140 · Quote Reply

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Planet crafter, steer clear of that game. That's some addictive shit, I 100%'ed that game before I even knew what I was doing. Really hit the subnautica style base building, alongside a progression system that frankly didn't take the piss with my time

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httperror418 lemmy.world httperror418@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#141 · Quote Reply

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Pure addiction planet crafter, I bought the dlc in a heartbeat

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BlackLaZoR lemmy.world BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-26
#142 · Quote Reply

the first steps of what later would become Proton, were made because Nier Automata didn't run on linux

Single wizard made DirectX 11 translation to Vulkan because he wanted to enjoy his waifu. Then he made it to the point of Witcher 3 running.

There was a problem tho - some models were broken because Vulkan didn't have some DirectX features. Then valve got involved and submitted proposal to Kronos for necessary Vulkan extension. Driver guys from MESA implemented it really quickly and suddenly almost all the DirectX 11 games became playable. Nvidia also added support.

It's an insane story of one guy with Anime waifu in avatar turning the tides of history. AFAIK he now works full time for Valve.

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jason discuss.online jason@discuss.online
Joined: 2024-12-11
#143 · Quote Reply

Oof. They are about to inject a bunch of vibe code into the only part that functions well.

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saplyng lemmy.world saplyng@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-09
#144 · Quote Reply

get ventoy, start trying

Unrelated but the ventoy usb I keep on me really helped me today after a ram stick decided to die and corrupt my system along with it

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SleepyPie lemmy.world SleepyPie@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#145 · Quote Reply

CachyOS for gaming PCs, Debian for browsing laptops

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BlackLaZoR lemmy.world BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-26
#146 · Quote Reply

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Debian is IMO just bad distro for desktop users. There's a reason why Valve moved from Debian to Arch based for their SteamOS.

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samus12345 sh.itjust.works samus12345@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-03
#147 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

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Hiro8811 lemmy.world Hiro8811@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-16
#148 · Quote Reply

Lmao imagine whatever improvement they try to do end up making wine even more performant

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thermal_shock lemmy.world thermal_shock@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#149 · (edited) Quote Reply

Unrelated but the ventoy usb I keep on me really helped me today after a ram stick decided to die and corrupt my system along with it

Add a HIREN boot USB to your toolkit too.

Edit: shit, just add the iso to ventoy, 🙄😂

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bearoftheisle europe.pub bearoftheisle@europe.pub
Joined: 2026-01-21
#150 · Quote Reply

wait, MS cares about their product? then why is it so... gestures vaguely at the OS

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thermal_shock lemmy.world thermal_shock@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#151 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Getting it to work is one thing, getting past anticheat bullshit to play MP is different. Luckily I'm really only into single player at the moment, which all work flawlessly on my bazzite.

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