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link to article https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/windows-11/what-is-windows-k2-everything-you-need-to-know-saving-windows-11

lol. They’re not going to reduce the bloat in their OS.

But they have gaming mode that disables a lot of it

Just a hunch, but it's not performance why peeps are migrating away from windows

The performance boost is just the icing on the cake

Woo competition doing its thing!

For gaming, Microsoft views steamOS as the benchmark, and is working to optimize the platform so that steamOS and Windows gaming performance are comparable. Within the next year or two, it believes that Windows will be able to truly compete head-to-head with steamOS in gaming performance on identical hardware due to foundational changes that are being made to the platform in the coming months.

And only because of portable devices like the steam deck. If the software scene was exactly the same but these devices didn't exist, I don't think they would be doing this. They wouldn't care windows is heavier if it was about standard gaming computers only.

Windows could run twice as fast and I still wouldn't switch back to it.

not really... microslop will always be trash and will always demand that you own nothing, and it's all their data

They only spy on you most of the time!

lol, just kidding, that part doesn't turn off

Nobody is going to say what the real problem is unless they want to get fired

Just die already microslop

IDK performance on Linux is amazing IMO.
My current favorite is Windrose, and it has an official requirement of a Radeon 6800XT or better, I'm playing it on Linux with a 2 levels lower Radeon 6600XT and has even increased graphics settings from the defaults, and it plays perfectly.

IDK if this is better or worse on Windows, but it seems to me that performance is for sure no longer a serious problem on Linux, even on games that run on the proton compatibility layer. And this is even on an early access game that isn't fully optimized.

Nah they'll just do anti-competive shit to make Steam worse.

Just 1 more AI data centre?

Lightly squeezes AI bubble a few times

"Yeah, there's room for one more."

It already is better in a number of games.

Doubt.

They'll copy Steam's source code, patent it, and then sue Steam for infringement.

Can't wait to see how the fediverse grows when all these datacenters have to liquidate their stock for dirt cheap

They can't. The people working on complaints are in a different department. And departments don't communicate at Microsoft.

Oh absolutely. But MS reacting to pressure from competition still benefits the poor souls who have to use it and shows that we need more people to switch away to encourage more improvements.

Good news if you're on a nvidia gpu then 🫠

And that's perfectly fine and legal because patents are 'first to file'

What if they find out that people went to CachyOS for even more performance?

It also legitimizes it as a viable option for gaming. We already know this, but the general masses are going to start looking at Linux vs Microsoft the same way folks look at PlayStation vs Xbox.

Some games have better performance running under wine on Linux than natively on Windows.

And even with the overhead of translating DirectX and Windows API calls.

It was for a time, when linux+Proton started outperforming Windows, in recent games, a few years ago.

But yeah, now... well Microsoft just seems very determined to actively destroy everything it maintains or touches.

I migrated because I was frustrated with having to constantly fix problems caused by forced updates. I didn't expect the benefit of my computer being WAY faster.

How do you imagine they patent a fork of Linux?

They already tried patent trolling for over a decade before they gave up... (Look up "Microsoft Novell-Suse patent trolling")

I always wonder whether that's because it's doing less... like some graphics feature that isn't supported might just no-op in Wine.

i think you misread the post

windows is trying to be comparable to steamos in terms of performance

It's because Windows is bloated. A lot of games rely on the CPU to deliver frames. If the CPU is congested so are the frames.

On the flip side, I couldn’t get Linux native Jackbox to run because the devs failed to update it to support something (Wayland maybe, IDK was troubleshooting mid Xmas party).

Ended up installing the Windows version in Proton.

Oh yeah that happens. Some devs are just too lazy to understand their build toolchain.

That's a story old as Linux. Native shit stops working. Thankfully wine/Proton is there to keep it functional

Cachy uses a lot of unstable patches. I wouldn't recommend it just for benefit of bunch more frames.

Hm. I wonder if still will become a problem in the future if we get more Linux native games. We shit on Windows for not playing old games when wine can, but if a game stops functioning moving from x11 to Wayland (or some other dependency) will there be people there to care enough to fix it? Although I would assume it would be an easier fix for Linux than Windows for when it does.

Lol it's true

It's wild that they recognized that software compiled for their own operating system goes faster through an interpreter on a different operating system

That’s an understatement

Nah. I mean, there might be some stuff like that, but nowadays, I'd be surprised if feature parity wasn't 1:1 (or even better, with some open source drivers having features that are removed from official windows drivers…).

The underlying OS is pure garbage, that's mostly it. Windows will start chugging everywhere with even moderate FS activity: running a background, single-threaded backup process will sometimes make it impossible to click in another window or open a new application. Driver API is not great, you have to jump through hoops to do basic stuff. There are many ways to do the exact same thing, each being more or less efficient than the other. Audio API is so bad, an audio device failing will sometime cause ohter, unrelated, non-audio application to spontaneously combust.

And so on and so on.

On the other hand, the Linux compatibility layer that proton provides do add some overhead in places, but surprisingly, it's not that much overhead. And it's not that common (basically, the code runs natively until specific instructions that requires special handling).

Obviously, when you have a better operating base, and very little extra overhead, software tends to run smoother.

And all that is not taking into account optimisation to Linux system themselves; there's been a lot of improvement in technical stuff for graphic drivers (especially on AMD side, but not exclusively), the kernel itself can get improvement in its handling of IO and memory, the whole thing is more flexible, etc.

In two years the race will likely be over already.

it will always be a problem with native games.

I think it was about 5 years ago, the Terraria team Linux dev left. Something happened that stopped the Linux build launching, and the native version was not playable until they got a new Linux dev in the team. Proton version worked flawlessly with more stable framerate.

As far as I know the native Undertale build is still unplayable. If it is working now, well it wasn't for about 6 years.

I see people get excited about native game builds, that's great but unless it's a very dedicated team that will update the game constantly it seems to be is no use.

Gaming aside, it's incredible how bad Windows Explorer performs compared to e.g. Dolphin. It's performance got even worse with Windows 11, but at least it finally has tabs now

Once 32bit libraries are gone, only wine with the recently added WoW64 will be able to run old games ot of the box. Old native titles made for 32bit Linux will require installing all the 32 bit libs again, assuming they'll be even available for your distro

Is that Dolphin on Linux or Windows?